Texas GM (and ex-Skins GM) Charlie Casserly resigns

BARRYRAY

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Well he was an idiot but hey we're probably bigger ones we traded for Henson and well he really lit up Europe last week. The high water mark for the Texans was beating the Cowboys in preseason, its been down hill from there. we sure did steal Aaron Glenn from them so back at em..
 

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RiggoForever said:
Ok why was passing on Bush such a big mistake? Defense wins championships, right? If Mario Williams is going to be a 15 sack or more per year guy, whats wrong with selecting him over Bush? Plus, the Texans already have a decent back in Davis.

It boils down to Bush being more highly rated at this point. That's all. They could have traded down with New Orleans and gotten something-- anything-- and still gotten Williams. Maybe they tried to trade down, but it doesn't sound like they did. It sounds like they got hung up over money and that was the deciding factor.

Mario Williams will probably be a very good player for them for many years, but they could have gotten more picks out of the draft.
 

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ravidubey said:
It boils down to Bush being more highly rated at this point. That's all. They could have traded down with New Orleans and gotten something-- anything-- and still gotten Williams. Maybe they tried to trade down, but it doesn't sound like they did. It sounds like they got hung up over money and that was the deciding factor.

Mario Williams will probably be a very good player for them for many years, but they could have gotten more picks out of the draft.
The problem about the whole trade theory is that you actually have to trade partner. I honestly don't think any team offered them anything remotely worth the #1 pick. Or that any team made any serious overtures for the #1. Everything I've read had people going after the 2-4 picks.

I've also read that at least 6 teams had Mario Williams as #1. And we've already heard that the Cowboys had them both rated equally. So you already know, who the 'boys would've taken.

All that said. I think the Williams pick was a good one. I can't believe how so many people forget their D stunk up the joint as much as their O did last year.
 

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The SMART pick would have been ferguson. Best OT in the draft when your line is pathetic- would make sense to me.
That is where I would have gone with it. I always thought he was the better prospect than Williams.

As for Bush; RB is more of a last piece for a rebuilding team not something to build around IMO. IF you start with a RB he is beat all to hell and gun shy by the time you get the talent around him up to speed. But the team knew it would be an unpopular move not to take him and that is why they had Casserly do the dirty deed and pass on him.
 

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trentmonster said:
If the Texans would've picked Bush and he ended up becoming a flop, no one in the sports world would have ever questioned them. On the other hand, if Mario is a flop then Mr. Casserly will have entire weekends devoted to him on ESPN Classic. :D

What if they both turn out to be flops? Then what? :p:
 

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MC KAos said:
exactly, i think reggie bush is overrated, he didnt do that well against good defenses (like against texas) if they would have played ohio state last year reggie bush would have gotten romped on. Plus if you look at a list of ELITE running backs against a list of Elite DEs youd see how much harder it is to find a DE than a RB. Plus i believe that the new head coach was in denver before so i bet he feels he can find a running back in later rounds easier than a DE

You need to go look at his stats against Texas he had a good game. I do agree with you an elite DE is harder to find than an elite RB and I do not beleive you need an elite rb to win in the NFL.
 

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What if they both turn out to be flops? Then what? :p:
Then the entire NFL slinks off into a corner and they are never mentioned again except by fans discussing the greatest busts of all time.
 

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Casserly had about as much say in the decision to pass on Reggie Bush as I did. Zero! Zilch! Nada! Kubiak is calling the shots in Houston.
 

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K-DOGG said:
Casserly had about as much say in the decision to pass on Reggie Bush as I did. Zero! Zilch! Nada! Kubiak is calling the shots in Houston.
I'm not sure a first year (newly hired at that) coach has that much more power than a lame duck GM.
 

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He took an expansion team and in five years ... turned them back into an expansion team.

Seems like a nice guy, but I don't know how he held a GM job that long.
 

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Chief said:
He took an expansion team and in five years ... turned them back into an expansion team.

Seems like a nice guy, but I don't know how he held a GM job that long.
And sadly their one signature win was their first regular season game against us :puke:
 

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JIGGYFLY said:
You need to go look at his stats against Texas he had a good game. I do agree with you an elite DE is harder to find than an elite RB and I do not beleive you need an elite rb to win in the NFL.

if take out the play where he scored a touchdown he really didnt have a good game, that play went for about 25 yards, it was his only long run cept for the one where he tried to lateral it and fumbled, if he had a good game, he would have gotten the ball on 4th and the game, not landell white
 

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i am not saying he is gonna be a bust but i certainly dont think he is gonna be LT or certainly not gale sayers like everyone is making him out to be, i think hell be more like warrick dunn, a good back but not great
 

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MC KAos said:
if take out the play where he scored a touchdown he really didnt have a good game, that play went for about 25 yards, it was his only long run cept for the one where he tried to lateral it and fumbled, if he had a good game, he would have gotten the ball on 4th and the game, not landell white

Puh-leeze...the guy had about 180 total yards. He played a pretty darn good game. He had nothing to do with his coach thikning it was a better idea to go with your 250 pound power back in a short yardage situation. That's a call almost any coach will make.
 

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you are right he did have a lot of yards. but just strictly rushing he only had 80 and if you take the one long play he had 55 yards. He was in the low teens in rushing attemps most of the year, he is not a every down back. He will be an ok overall player in my opinion and he will be helped out by the fact that if healthy, deuce mcallister will help keep him fresh. If he does last longer than 8 years in the NFL it will only be because he doesnt get that many rushing attemps. Again, i dont think he is gonna be bad, but not great. And again i dont think the texans made a good move in taking mario williams, but in passing on reggie bush, the only thing they were gonna win with him was jersey sales and tickets the first year
 

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dragon_mikal said:
People need to get off of Bush's jock. Its really quite pathetic. The draft is a crapshoot and Bush is not a sure thing. He is not Barry Sanders no matter how many people compare the two.

He may never be similar to Sanders or Sayers, but the guys he could end up being like are Marshall Faulk or Tiki Barber. He has good hands from what I can see.
 

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dwmyers said:
He may never be similar to Sanders or Sayers, but the guys he could end up being like are Marshall Faulk or Tiki Barber. He has good hands from what I can see.

see i agree there, not marshall faulk, but like a tiki barber, just a good back, not worthy of the first overall pick
 

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Anytime Casserly has anything bad happen to him it's a good day for me.

He still has man love for the Commanders and took every opportunity to diss the Cowboys on his radio show in Houston.

So I hope he gets a job at McDonalds.

Scrubbing toilets.
 
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