TFE: Part 1...The Cowboys Should Add Adrian Peterson

[Hostile]

The NFL Offseason is always a chess match. Agents for the players make salary demands, issue threats, and even try to drum up “luke warm” interest from other clubs. Teams try and keep their salary cap manageable, making lowball offers and negotiating until the terms are right. Players over value themselves, teams over estimate some players. In 32 NFL cities the chess match rules all.

You really saw that this year when Free Agency had a three day negotiating window before it actually launched. The action was so fast and furious that people wore out the F5 buttons on their keyboards refreshing their Twitter feeds to get the latest coming and going. Football proved once again that it is king of the American sports scene. No other sport even comes close. In a time of year when the NBA and the NHL are in the start of their playoff runs, and MLB is starting Spring Training in Arizona and Florida it is the NFL that blew up Twitter and dominated the news on Sportscenter. Only the NFL can have two events at the top of the interest list. I am talking of course about the Super Bowl and the NFL Draft, which may be the two biggest events in professional sports In America.


Read more: http://www.thefootballeducator.com/dallas-cowboys-add-adrian-peterson/#ixzz3Vv3m57qy

 

[Nightman]

Count me in......All Day and twice on Sundays

 

[big dog cowboy]

Only under the right circumstances and they don't come close to existing right now.

 

[viman96]

I'd rather the Cowboys draft a young back

 

[TwoDeep3]

The NFL Offseason is always a chess match. Agents for the players make salary demands, issue threats, and even try to drum up “luke warm” interest from other clubs. Teams try and keep their salary cap manageable, making lowball offers and negotiating until the terms are right. Players over value themselves, teams over estimate some players. In 32 NFL cities the chess match rules all.

You really saw that this year when Free Agency had a three day negotiating window before it actually launched. The action was so fast and furious that people wore out the F5 buttons on their keyboards refreshing their Twitter feeds to get the latest coming and going. Football proved once again that it is king of the American sports scene. No other sport even comes close. In a time of year when the NBA and the NHL are in the start of their playoff runs, and MLB is starting Spring Training in Arizona and Florida it is the NFL that blew up Twitter and dominated the news on Sportscenter. Only the NFL can have two events at the top of the interest list. I am talking of course about the Super Bowl and the NFL Draft, which may be the two biggest events in professional sports In America.


Read more: http://www.thefootballeducator.com/dallas-cowboys-add-adrian-peterson/#ixzz3Vv3m57qy

On the radio Monday the sports guys were talking about the rumors flying hot and heavy at VR.

AP at 8 mill a year after he reworks his contract for the Cowboys. Plus, Dallas gives Minne a 2nd and 3rd. Maybe not in the same year. Second this year and third next.

They swore this was all the talk late last week at VR.

So the question comes down to this. Since the salaries would be the same, is AP worth those two picks considering the position Dallas is in regarding Romo's age and such.

They would also have to rework Romo to get this done. So he gets extended and his cap hit is strung out.

They also said AP made a statement since he was such good friends with Murray, he would wait until Murray made a choice where he would play. Once Murray went to Philly, AP and his agent have said they will not play for Minne again, ever.

So, did Stephen, who is behind this, so they say, run off Murray to get AP. The thinking they would be sick if they took Murray long term and missed on AP.

It also makes all the comments by Jerry and Stephen about fiscal responsibility horse manure and makes them out to be hypocrites for this, so says the talking radio guys.

You decide. I have highly doubted AP would be here, but after this report, who knows.

High price. If he gets injured, then what? Because he has been known to go down for the season in the past.

 

[Stash]

On the radio Monday the sports guys were talking about the rumors flying hot and heavy at VR.

AP at 8 mill a year after he reworks his contract for the Cowboys. Plus, Dallas gives Minne a 2nd and 3rd. Maybe not in the same year. Second this year and third next.

They swore this was all the talk late last week at VR.

So the question comes down to this. Since the salaries would be the same, is AP worth those two picks considering the position Dallas is in regarding Romo's age and such.

They would also have to rework Romo to get this done. So he gets extended and his cap hit is strung out.

They also said AP made a statement since he was such good friends with Murray, he would wait until Murray made a choice where he would play. Once Murray went to Philly, AP and his agent have said they will not play for Minne again, ever.

So, did Stephen, who is behind this, so they say, run off Murray to get AP. The thinking they would be sick if they took Murray long term and missed on AP.

It also makes all the comments by Jerry and Stephen about fiscal responsibility horse manure and makes them out to be hypocrites for this, so says the talking radio guys.

You decide. I have highly doubted AP would be here, but after this report, who knows.

High price. If he gets injured, then what? Because he has been known to go down for the season in the past.

This report falls right in line with what I have been thinking, other than that second pick being a 3rd rounder rather than the 4th rounder I was thinking. That's a bit steeper of a price than I was willing to pay.

But the $8 million per year lines up with the 3-year $25 million deal I was expecting.

If Peterson gets injured? I would assume you're looking at McFadden as the starter, which we are as of today. And then either Williams or Randle or a later round draft pick as the #3, arguably as deep a group of talent as there is anywhere in the league.

The only downside is that if we do not draft one this year, we will be looking for a young back in another two years. But with the strength of this line, that's not the end of the world. After all, we found the 'NFL's leading rusher' in the 4th round.

If they were to make this deal, I would highly expect a trade down from pick #27 if they could get a decent offer.

 

[DFWJC]

On the radio Monday the sports guys were talking about the rumors flying hot and heavy at VR.

AP at 8 mill a year after he reworks his contract for the Cowboys. Plus, Dallas gives Minne a 2nd and 3rd. Maybe not in the same year. Second this year and third next.

They swore this was all the talk late last week at VR.

So the question comes down to this. Since the salaries would be the same, is AP worth those two picks considering the position Dallas is in regarding Romo's age and such.

They would also have to rework Romo to get this done. So he gets extended and his cap hit is strung out.

They also said AP made a statement since he was such good friends with Murray, he would wait until Murray made a choice where he would play. Once Murray went to Philly, AP and his agent have said they will not play for Minne again, ever.

So, did Stephen, who is behind this, so they say, run off Murray to get AP. The thinking they would be sick if they took Murray long term and missed on AP.

It also makes all the comments by Jerry and Stephen about fiscal responsibility horse manure and makes them out to be hypocrites for this, so says the talking radio guys.

You decide. I have highly doubted AP would be here, but after this report, who knows.

High price. If he gets injured, then what? Because he has been known to go down for the season in the past.

Count me out on giving up a 2nd and 3rd plus 8 mil a year cap hit

 

[burmafrd]

only at the right price. BUT I admit I do want him.

 

[Stash]

only at the right price. BUT I admit I do want him.

What's 'right price' in your opinion?

 

[Iago33]

What's 'right price' in your opinion?

No more than a 5th and I'd be hesitant to go 8 million. But I'm not sure you were asking me....

 

[Stash]

No more than a 5th and I'd be hesitant to go 8 million. But I'm not sure you were asking me....

No, that question is for anyone and everyone who has an opinion on the subject.

Thanks for the response!

 

[Rockport]

On the radio Monday the sports guys were talking about the rumors flying hot and heavy at VR.

AP at 8 mill a year after he reworks his contract for the Cowboys. Plus, Dallas gives Minne a 2nd and 3rd. Maybe not in the same year. Second this year and third next.

They swore this was all the talk late last week at VR.

So the question comes down to this. Since the salaries would be the same, is AP worth those two picks considering the position Dallas is in regarding Romo's age and such.

They would also have to rework Romo to get this done. So he gets extended and his cap hit is strung out.

They also said AP made a statement since he was such good friends with Murray, he would wait until Murray made a choice where he would play. Once Murray went to Philly, AP and his agent have said they will not play for Minne again, ever.

So, did Stephen, who is behind this, so they say, run off Murray to get AP. The thinking they would be sick if they took Murray long term and missed on AP.

It also makes all the comments by Jerry and Stephen about fiscal responsibility horse manure and makes them out to be hypocrites for this, so says the talking radio guys.

You decide. I have highly doubted AP would be here, but after this report, who knows.

High price. If he gets injured, then what? Because he has been known to go down for the season in the past.

I for one don't believe any "rumors" reported by radio sports talk idiots. They are paid to make up nonsense like this.

 

[MichaelValentino]

I have been pretty consistent in wanting Peterson in Dallas - primarily because I see a narrow window in which to add to the trophy case at Valley Ranch and I believe Peterson, even at 30, gives the Cowboys a better chance of winning in 2015 than any rookie in the draft or what the current group of backs on the roster offers. But a no. 2 and no. 3, even spread over two years, is a pretty high price, especially with help needed at DL, LB and corner. I'm okay with $8 MM per year even if that means restructuring Romo. Again, my thinking is predicated on a 35 yr old QB who should still be at or near the top of his game in 2015-16, but who will not be around long-term. Peterson has missed one year due to injury and even then he returned from an ACL in record time to fall 9 yd short of an NFL rushing record. I expect Peterson to be in great physical condition and at 30, I'd be willing to guess he still has as much speed as Gordon and a healthy Gurley at 22. I don't expect Gordon or Gurley (especially) to be there at 27. In that case, if the Cowboys do get Peterson, they can look to corner, LB or DE at 27 and DE, DT-1 tech or LB at 60 instead of taking Ajayi or Coleman at 60. But if Peterson does not wind up in Dallas, the Cowboys will need to draft a RB this year (probably in the 2nd round as more and more mocks have Gordon and Gurley gone before 27). I do see the downside to signing Peterson (cap hit, age, compensation to MN if by trade) and I would probably think differently if Romo was 30 and hasn't taken so much punishment. That's my $0.02, which is probably around fair market value for any advice I can offer the Cowboys FO.

 

[Idgit]

I for one don't believe any "rumors" reported by radio sports talk idiots. They are paid to make up nonsense like this.

They weren't really spreading rumors. Just killing an hour in the offseason talking about the possibility. TwoDeep was just a little late getting to the story the rest of us were talking about in the other thread.

Like I said there, they referenced AD's father and suggested he was excited about the prospect of his son playing behind the Dallas line. And then basically said it was the type of move that made sense in Dallas if the situation was too dysfunctional in Minny for them to resolve it. The rest of the time was basically ballparking what he might be worth in trade and how they might structure conditional picks for him.

For my part, I've said previously that $8M per would be my top-end. With a huge chunk of that guaranteed. I'd said I wouldn't trade anything for him, but I've softened on that a bit thinking that we'd otherwise be spending at least a third to bring in a lesser player for four seasons. I'm pretty confident AD will be good for at least two more seasons (and by that I mean better than any rookie we'd get this year during that time), so really we're talking about the cap hit here and the possible loss of a developing RB for a season or two before we'd have to draft another one. I might go as high as a 4th in that case, with a conditional pick next season if AD breaks the rushing record or we get a Lombardi. Not much more than that.

The real issue is how much of that $8M per to guarantee. It'd have to be most of it, I'd think. Maybe a roster guarantee for year 3, but that's about all the wiggle room I'd expect given how much teams overpaid for lesser back this season in UDFA.

 

[CF74]

Giving up a 2nd and a 3rd has that eerie feeling of the Herschel Walker trade in reverse.. I'm terrified...

 

[Rockport]

They weren't really spreading rumors. Just killing an hour in the offseason talking about the possibility. TwoDeep was just a little late getting to the story the rest of us were talking about in the other thread.

Like I said there, they referenced AD's father and suggested he was excited about the prospect of his son playing behind the Dallas line. And then basically said it was the type of move that made sense in Dallas if the situation was too dysfunctional in Minny for them to resolve it. The rest of the time was basically ballparking what he might be worth in trade and how they might structure conditional picks for him.

For my part, I've said previously that $8M per would be my top-end. With a huge chunk of that guaranteed. I'd said I wouldn't trade anything for him, but I've softened on that a bit thinking that we'd otherwise be spending at least a third to bring in a lesser player for four seasons. I'm pretty confident AD will be good for at least two more seasons (and by that I mean better than any rookie we'd get this year during that time), so really we're talking about the cap hit here and the possible loss of a developing RB for a season or two before we'd have to draft another one. I might go as high as a 4th in that case, with a conditional pick next season if AD breaks the rushing record or we get a Lombardi. Not much more than that.

The real issue is how much of that $8M per to guarantee. It'd have to be most of it, I'd think. Maybe a roster guarantee for year 3, but that's about all the wiggle room I'd expect given how much teams overpaid for lesser back this season in UDFA.

I was referring to Valley Ranch "talk in the hallways".

 

[Idgit]

I was referring to Valley Ranch "talk in the hallways".

Ah, yeah. That stuff's just background noise. Less than that as we head into draft season.

 

[CowboyChris]

I dont mind the 8 million a year, i just cant stomach the 2nd and 3rd, I would at the most offer the 2nd only cause its a late 2nd. I wouldnt be upset if we just drafted someone and moved on either.

 

[Silver N Blue]

The NFL Offseason is always a chess match. Agents for the players make salary demands, issue threats, and even try to drum up “luke warm” interest from other clubs. Teams try and keep their salary cap manageable, making lowball offers and negotiating until the terms are right. Players over value themselves, teams over estimate some players. In 32 NFL cities the chess match rules all.

You really saw that this year when Free Agency had a three day negotiating window before it actually launched. The action was so fast and furious that people wore out the F5 buttons on their keyboards refreshing their Twitter feeds to get the latest coming and going. Football proved once again that it is king of the American sports scene. No other sport even comes close. In a time of year when the NBA and the NHL are in the start of their playoff runs, and MLB is starting Spring Training in Arizona and Florida it is the NFL that blew up Twitter and dominated the news on Sportscenter. Only the NFL can have two events at the top of the interest list. I am talking of course about the Super Bowl and the NFL Draft, which may be the two biggest events in professional sports In America.


Read more: http://www.thefootballeducator.com/dallas-cowboys-add-adrian-peterson/#ixzz3Vv3m57qy

I read this and the Hardy take on the site. Good stuff!

 

[Teren_Kanan]

8 Mil a year and 2 draft picks? No thanks.