Thai cave rescue underway

Surprisingly, they got four out. If they resorted to having the kids swim out, I thought only a few would survive at best. I am a cave diver and I would not want to face what they are trying to do.

There is zero visibility, have to take their gear off in places and their swimming ability is poor. I guess pumping the water out is working well because it would not be pretty if they tried this a few days ago. Hoping for the best for these kids and rescuers but don't get complacent:(
 
DFWJC said:
You know the adult leader that got these kids in this situation must feel terrible.
One ex Thai Navy Seal already dead.
So hope these kids get out
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This is reminiscent of that time the toddler, I think her name was Jessica, fell down the well and the rescue was watched by this entire country holding their breath. Nothing worse than the young in peril.
 
Tabascocat said:
Surprisingly, they got four out. If they resorted to having the kids swim out, I thought only a few would survive at best. I am a cave diver and I would not want to face what they are trying to do.

There is zero visibility, have to take their gear off in places and their swimming ability is poor. I guess pumping the water out is working well because it would not be pretty if they tried this a few days ago. Hoping for the best for these kids and rescuers but don't get complacent:(
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The news mentioned the divers each held one child underneath their body while rescuing. I was ecstatic when I heard the rescue had started. I feel as though these children are part of my family.

My prayers have already been said for Sgt. Major Saman Gunan. Gunan wasn't abiding by any orders when he joined the effort to rescue a boys soccer team trapped in a cave in northern Thailand. The 38yr. old retired Thai Navy SEAL did so by choice.

Gunan, who was working as a volunteer, passed out underwater during an overnight mission placing extra air tanks inside the cave, along the route divers use to reach the cavern where the 12 boys and their coach remain stranded and the oxygen in the air is depleting. He couldn't be revived and was confirmed dead early Friday morning, according to Thai officials.

The world has lost a true hero with no doubt in my mind, is looking down with a smile on his face as the rescue continues.
 
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daboyzruleperiod said:
The news mentioned the divers each held one child underneath their body while rescuing. I was ecstatic when I heard the rescue had started. I feel as though these children are part of my family.

My prayers have already been said for 1st Class Saman Gunan.
Sgt. Major Saman Gunan wasn't abiding by any orders when he joined the effort to rescue a boys soccer team trapped in a cave in northern Thailand. The 38 year-old retired Thai Navy SEAL did so by choice.

Gunan, who was working as a volunteer, passed out underwater during an overnight mission placing extra air tanks inside the cave, along the route divers use to reach the cavern where the 12 boys and their coach remain stranded and the oxygen in the air is depleting. He couldn't be revived and was confirmed dead early Friday morning, according to Thai officials.

The world has lost a true hero with no doubt in my mind, is looking down with a smile on his face as the rescue continues.
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Yea, this is a difficult task. Even experienced divers panic under those conditions. I never thought the kids would be in their own scuba gear following the leader but instead are breathing through the octopus(2nd stage). They do have to switch to rock climbing gear in two places I think to get to the next water filled cave.

At least they have staging areas to rest and get more tanks; otherwise, it is impossible to make a 6/7 hour swim underwater. That isn't even possible with technical full cave diving unless we are talking about rebreathers but even then that is a whole new set of challenges. Bottom line, this is their window. If more rain comes and fills the caves completely, it is all but over :(

There is one point in the dive that they have to remove all gear and crawl through a narrow path, I imagine that is their main stumbling block because most cavern divers won't even try that.

I have trained up to full cave diving in the Yucatan Peninsula and have maybe 100 total hours in a cave(which is completely different than a cavern). I stopped short of technical training but have dabbled in TRIMIX, sidemount and mapping. I consider myself pretty experienced and have been several hundred meters deep inside and in no way would I feel comfortable in this current type of rescue :(

Knowing what they are facing, this must be executed now, no more stalling because it will get to a point of no return. Godspeed to these people........
 
It has been hard to get the actual story of what is happening on this one... some have said the coach is out, some say he is still there. And varying reports of how many were out the first day. It will be interesting to hear the true story once everyone is (hopefully) safe. Maybe the coach should go last as punishment :p Really amazing effort by the rescuers... very inspiring.
 
Super_Kazuya said:
It has been hard to get the actual story of what is happening on this one... some have said the coach is out, some say he is still there. And varying reports of how many were out the first day. It will be interesting to hear the true story once everyone is (hopefully) safe. Maybe the coach should go last as punishment :p Really amazing effort by the rescuers... very inspiring.
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According to the reports I have read, the coach is still in with 4 of the boys and will be the last one out. The coach is a young guy in his 20's.

The kids are 11-17 and I do not know how they are going about selecting in what order they come out except for the weakest first. The entire story is amazing starting with even locating them.

In a world whirling around negatives, bad actors and getting a lot of people down, it is uplifting to see these people coming together and for a while, I feel it's good to be human again.
 
CouchCoach said:
According to the reports I have read, the coach is still in with 4 of the boys and will be the last one out. The coach is a young guy in his 20's.

The kids are 11-17 and I do not know how they are going about selecting in what order they come out except for the weakest first. The entire story is amazing starting with even locating them.

In a world whirling around negatives, bad actors and getting a lot of people down, it is uplifting to see these people coming together and for a while, I feel it's good to be human again.
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Yeah, I believe that is what is the case. It's just there was a time when no one knew what was going on and stuff like this was being circulated

As I said, it's been hard to know exactly what is going on... understandable I suppose, as it's a world away and the media are being kept at an arm's length.
 
I read that they were not telling the parents which boys are out of the cave and that the parents agreed to stay where the are located until everyone is out of the cave. Also the parents are not blaming the coach ... nor should anyone else.
 
lukin2006 said:
I read that they were not telling the parents which boys are out of the cave and that the parents agreed to stay where the are located until everyone is out of the cave. Also the parents are not blaming the coach ... nor should anyone else.
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The coach should be a hero. He selflessly gave what food there was to the boys and made sure everyone kept their spirits up. They could have easily given up a week ago and lay down waiting for death. So, they made a mistake going in to explore. That is what most young boys want to do.....go see the inside of a cave.

It is how the coach handled the problem once they were in trouble. He did a great job keeping these boys alive.
 
Tabascocat said:
The coach should be a hero. He selflessly gave what food there was to the boys and made sure everyone kept their spirits up. They could have easily given up a week ago and lay down waiting for death. So, they made a mistake going in to explore. That is what most young boys want to do.....go see the inside of a cave.

It is how the coach handled the problem once they were in trouble. He did a great job keeping these boys alive.
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I can’t get behind that, although this is another one of those situations where knowing what actually happened would help. I’ve read everything from the coach went in after the kids, to the caves are a tourist attraction, to the caves are considered to be dangerous and off limits at all times.
https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/05/asia/thailand-cave-town-intl/index.html
If the coach really did lead them down there, he would be no hero to me. Even if everyone makes it out, a man has still died because of this. But I’ll wait until the full story inevitably comes out in the days ahead. Let’s hope the rescue team gets him off the hook.
 
Super_Kazuya said:
I can’t get behind that, although this is another one of those situations where knowing what actually happened would help. I’ve read everything from the coach went in after the kids, to the caves are a tourist attraction, to the caves are considered to be dangerous and off limits at all times.
https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/05/asia/thailand-cave-town-intl/index.html
If the coach really did lead them down there, he would be no hero to me. Even if everyone makes it out, a man has still died because of this. But I’ll wait until the full story inevitably comes out in the days ahead. Let’s hope the rescue team gets him off the hook.
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I hear ya, we don't know the facts. As far as I can tell, this cave is a tourist attraction where thousands visit every year. The rainy season starts in July......they went in June. A mistake being made is some saying the coach shouldn't have led them in that far. Well, he didn't do it on purpose, they got caught in flash flooding and were forced to keep moving back to safety.

It can be questioned if they should have been there in the first place but that appears to be a normal thing at this time of the year. I try to judge a man by what they do facing adversity and it looks like he has done a stellar job in this dire situation. People, kids, make mistakes and deserve a chance to correct the course.

It is a shame one person has lost his life and I hope it stays that way. They are currently on the last rescue mission now.

Like I said, regardless of how they got there, if this coach kept 12 boys alive for two weeks.......that is a hero in my book.
 
9th child rescued Now up to 10 rescued and the news channel I am watching says the coach is still in the cave
 
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Tabascocat said:
The coach should be a hero. He selflessly gave what food there was to the boys and made sure everyone kept their spirits up. They could have easily given up a week ago and lay down waiting for death. So, they made a mistake going in to explore. That is what most young boys want to do.....go see the inside of a cave.

It is how the coach handled the problem once they were in trouble. He did a great job keeping these boys alive.
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Totally agree. I just saw this morning on the news that he also taught them meditation, to help keep them calm.
 
https://www.cnn.com/asia/live-news/thai-cave-rescue-live-intl/index.html


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All 12 boys and soccer coach rescued from Thai cave

The last remaining member of the Wild Boars soccer team and their coach have been pulled out of a flooded cave in Thailand, bringing an end to a near three-week ordeal that prompted a huge international rescue effort.

The twelfth boy and his coach were the last of the team to be rescued Tuesday, after a complicated three-day operation to extricate the team, who became trapped on June 23 when rising flood water cut off the exit, deep inside the cave.



 
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