Thanks Roy Barron...

[EPL0c0]

It's hard to get on ROy about this... sloppy ball handling, but good hustle by the Saints defender to rip it out (and not just go for the tackle).

But after that, Saints had the ball at their 11 yard line.... 89yds from the endzone. Then they hit on passes of 22yds, 55yds and 12yds.


If anything, be upset at the DLine/OLBs that could not put consistent pressure on the QB. This left what we know is a weak 2ndary VERY exposed and gave Brees time to find his targets.

 

[Bleu Star]

It's hard to get on ROy about this... sloppy ball handling, but good hustle by the Saints defender to rip it out (and not just go for the tackle).

But after that, Saints had the ball at their 11 yard line.... 89yds from the endzone. Then they hit on passes of 22yds, 55yds and 12yds.


If anything, be upset at the DLine/OLBs that could not put consistent pressure on the QB. This left what we know is a weak 2ndary VERY exposed and gave Brees time to find his targets.

Every man on that field has to earn his paycheck for 60 minutes. Sure. I get that. I also can easily see how the defense was caught off guard after an incredibly improbable change of fortune. No excuse... Just think of how you felt when Roy coughed it up. You were shocked. It probably took a few minutes for your blood pressure to level off. Now place yourself in a cowboys uni and get back out there on the field. They were in a bit of shock and unfortunately didn't snap out if it in enough time to recover. Once again... no excuses.. but it does bear mention. If anything, a timeout should have been called to give them a chance to digest the polar shift.

 

[sk0aL]

It's hard to get on ROy about this... sloppy ball handling, but good hustle by the Saints defender to rip it out (and not just go for the tackle).

But after that, Saints had the ball at their 11 yard line.... 89yds from the endzone. Then they hit on passes of 22yds, 55yds and 12yds.


If anything, be upset at the DLine/OLBs that could not put consistent pressure on the QB. This left what we know is a weak 2ndary VERY exposed and gave Brees time to find his targets.

So I guess you missed the Sensabaugh interception that set up the go ahead touchdown, and the ensuing big play by Brooking on 3rd and long, followed by Ratliff's sack to kill another crucial Saints drive. Let's ignore the first big pass defended by Newman on the Saint's final go ahead drive and blame him for getting burned, when the only reason he was in that position was because Roy Williams once again coughed up the football at the most crucial of times.

 

[TwoDeep3]

All these bromides about what should happen are great and all. And even if you played pro ball before that is terrific.

But you still assume you know what he knew and when he knew it.

I don't believe I have EVER seen a player in the open field have two hands on the ball as he is streaking for the end zone. I have seen them shift the ball away from lone defenders in front of them, as Roy did.

But what I do find amazing is that play at that precise moment did not lose the game. But to hear it recounted, that was the sole play that lost the game.

What truly lost the game was Newman's play that put the Saints in the red zone. Then Jenkins play along with Sensabaugh that allowed the touchdown.

So these fifty three hearts that beat as one weren't let down by the two plays that did cause the score and lead to change.

But one play at the other end of the field which required the Saints offense to travel 89-yards and demanded a touchdown as the only recourse to take the lead seems to fall by the wayside over Roy Williams being striped of the ball.

As I said, logic doesn't appear to be involved in quite a few posts in this thread.

 

[TwoDeep3]

So I guess you missed the Sensabaugh interception that set up the go ahead touchdown, and the ensuing big play by Brooking on 3rd and long, followed by Ratliff's sack to kill another crucial Saints drive. Let's ignore the first big pass defended by Newman on the Saint's final go ahead drive and blame him for getting burned, when the only reason he was in that position was because Roy Williams once again coughed up the football at the most crucial of times.

Righteo, like we should ignore the down field blocking that aided in Austin scoring a touchdown. Or Felix gaining a huge lead.

Or the several drive sustaining first downs by Roy to keep the team moving forward toward taking that lead.

Instead let's ignore the two plays that allowed the Saints to score, when if the defense steps up, as teammates cover each other in regard to mistakes made throughout the game the Saints lose, and blame this on one guy that's action were a contributing factor, but did not actually give up the winning touchdown for the Saints.

Because you're not a true Cowboy fan unless you eat your young.

 

[Bleu Star]

All these bromides about what should happen are great and all. And even if you played pro ball before that is terrific.

gee thanks...

But you still assume you know what he knew and when he knew it.

You do a great job of thinking you know what I think. The accuracy stops there...

I don't believe I have EVER seen a player in the open field have two hands on the ball as he is streaking for the end zone. I have seen them shift the ball away from lone defenders in front of them, as Roy did.

Then you haven't enjoyed much football. I see it all the time. Whether it's for a first down, short yardage on the goal line, or in the open field when a player knows he is about to get tackled.. I see players cover it with two hands all the time. Excellent fundamentals and, more importantly, situational intelligence...

But what I do find amazing is that play at that precise moment did not lose the game. But to hear it recounted, that was the sole play that lost the game.

You appear to be easily entertained... Bottom line, we went from having a significantly strong chance to win the game to having a significantly strong chance to fail all in one careless play.

As I said, logic doesn't appear to be involved in quite a few posts in this thread.

Different strokes I guess... I'm not out to change your mind. history has proven that to be fairly improbable. That said... The same is rings true with regard to your effort to prove to me that Roy Barron didn't monumentally fail again.

His 4th quarter fumbles are starting to create a stat line.

 

[sk0aL]

All these bromides about what should happen are great and all. And even if you played pro ball before that is terrific.

But you still assume you know what he knew and when he knew it.

I don't believe I have EVER seen a player in the open field have two hands on the ball as he is streaking for the end zone. I have seen them shift the ball away from lone defenders in front of them, as Roy did.

But what I do find amazing is that play at that precise moment did not lose the game. But to hear it recounted, that was the sole play that lost the game.

What truly lost the game was Newman's play that put the Saints in the red zone. Then Jenkins play along with Sensabaugh that allowed the touchdown.

So these fifty three hearts that beat as one weren't let down by the two plays that did cause the score and lead to change.

But one play at the other end of the field which required the Saints offense to travel 89-yards and demanded a touchdown as the only recourse to take the lead seems to fall by the wayside over Roy Williams being striped of the ball.

As I said, logic doesn't appear to be involved in quite a few posts in this thread.

Many of the people defending Roy today are the same ones who roasted Tashard Choice after his Week 1 fumble in Washington, pinning that loss solely on him. Tashard fumbled at the end of the 1st half with 30 minutes of football left to be played, not with 3 minutes left in the 4th quarter like Roy did.

And if either was the result of the defender making a "great play", it was Deangelo Hall taking a great angle on the ball and popping it right out and getting help from an incredibly lucky bounce. Roy Williams simply got his pocket picked from behind because evidently he forgot that if you catch a ball in space, believe it or not the opposing team's secondary will indeed give chase from behind.

Yet, Roy is still vindicated.

 

[Bleu Star]

Many of the people defending Roy today are the same ones who roasted Tashard Choice after his Week 1 fumble in Washington, pinning that loss solely on him. Tashard fumbled at the end of the 1st half with 30 minutes of football left to be played, not with 3 minutes left in the 4th quarter like Roy did.

And if either was the result of the defender making a "great play", it was Deangelo Hall taking a great angle on the ball and popping it right out and getting help from an incredibly lucky bounce. Roy Williams simply got his pocket picked from behind because evidently he forgot that if you catch a ball in space, believe it or not the opposing team's secondary will indeed give chase from behind.

Yet, Roy is still vindicated.

Nailed it.

 

[NextGenBoys]

That wasn't a smile if you're referring to him being shown on the sidelines after the play..

It really sucks. Other than that fumble at the end Roy played a good game today. I know everyone will blame him now, but in reality we played sloppy football today. He didn't cause Gurode to have about 3 bad snaps this game, one resulting in a fumble, he didn't cause Felix to fumble, he didn't committ any of the ill timed penalties we had.

That being said there's no excuse for not having two hands on the ball in that situation. We definately were right there with them, but sloppiness lost the game for us. I hope Garrett hits them hard in practice this week.

Very level headed post.

I agree near 100% with this.

 

[TwoDeep3]

gee thanks...



You do a great job of thinking you know what I think. The accuracy stops there...


Then you haven't enjoyed much football. I see it all the time. Whether it's for a first down, short yardage on the goal line, or in the open field when a player knows he is about to get tackled.. I see players cover it with two hands all the time. Excellent fundamentals and, more importantly, situational intelligence...


You appear to be easily entertained... Bottom line, we went from having a significantly strong chance to win the game to having a significantly strong chance to fail all in one careless play.


Different strokes I guess... I'm not out to change your mind. history has proven that to be fairly improbable. That said... The same is rings true with regard to your effort to prove to me that Roy Barron didn't monumentally fail again.

His 4th quarter fumbles are starting to create a stat line.

I read your words and do comprehend English and you have not minced anything you think about Roy and his culpability.

So for me to tell you you assume things you do not know is not far fetched at all. You have blatantly stated things as fact when they are suppositions on your part.

Further, since we are offering up resumes about who we are, I sat in the stands of the first Cowboy game EVER. I can recall sitting in the end zones at the Cotton Bowl when kids for in for 1 dollar.

I have seen a lot of football, both Cowboys and pro in general.

And in all your significantly strong this of that, the game was still winnable until Jenkins and Sensabaugh gave up the TD.

We had stopped them prior to that final drive they engineered.

And even then with two time outs and 1:56 on the clock when they kicked off to us, there was still a significantly strong possibility we could have won that game.

I truly could care less if you believe this or not. But I do appreciate logical thinking, and that has been woefully exhibited in this thread by some.

 

[TwoDeep3]

Many of the people defending Roy today are the same ones who roasted Tashard Choice after his Week 1 fumble in Washington, pinning that loss solely on him. Tashard fumbled at the end of the 1st half with 30 minutes of football left to be played, not with 3 minutes left in the 4th quarter like Roy did.

And if either was the result of the defender making a "great play", it was Deangelo Hall taking a great angle on the ball and popping it right out and getting help from an incredibly lucky bounce. Roy Williams simply got his pocket picked from behind because evidently he forgot that if you catch a ball in space, believe it or not the opposing team's secondary will indeed give chase from behind.

Yet, Roy is still vindicated.

I did not blame Choice but Garrett for not calling a play to take a knee.

I do not blame Roy for trying his best.

I am amused at fans that sit in their living rooms and proffer what a player should do, know, thinks and should have done without an inkling of first hand knowledge about the player they are castigating.

 

[bbgun]

the momentum changer

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[UnoDallas]

the momentum changer

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Hook em Horns

 

[Bleu Star]

The sooner he hooksem out of Dallas the better.

 

[white1]

he lost the game. that's it

 

[UnoDallas]

The sooner he hooksem out of Dallas the better.

agreed