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burmafrd

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you hear is so many getting trapped by the circus master again.
I think its clear that while it irritates BP, he can handle it. And the rest of the Boys are used to it by now and probably ignore it.
 

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The TO haters will continue to jump onto it. But really, why would anyone really care? Grump about his drops, certainly. But the rest- realistically its small time stuff.
 

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but who needs it....we have not won a playoff game since 1996....this is as close as we have been in a long time.....we can almost taste it.

He does not get or understand that...because he is NOT a winner.....he's dumb enough to let all of the off the field training, blood, sweat, tears, broken limbs and aching muscles go to waste.

I seriously think this guy does not care if he does not go to the HOF or win a Super Bowl. Sure on the surface he appears to want these things....but he goes about in entirely in the wrong way. The way he goes about it he will never win a ring or get in the HOF. He is with a team and a coach that an help him achieve both...but instead of locking in at the most crucial time of the season AND his career...he allows "stuff" to linger and languish.

I find it funny that he apparently has an endorsement deal with Team Jordan. Does he realize that Micheal Jordan would let no one and nothing him stop him from getting the trophy. He was like a pit bull with his focus and determination when it came down to winning that ring.

Can't understand how he idolizes Micheal Irvin...does he realize Micheal Irvin would give his right arm to win a Super Bowl. And his left to be inducted into the HOF.

TO is not a winner....very talented...but not a winner. He may have some of you fooled, but not me...we cannot win with this guy...NO ONE CAN. He is a wack job...he cannot handle success...he cannot handle failure...he cannot get comfortbale in a a team environment...ultimatley he is a waste of time and talent
 

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In this day and age he is not alone by a long shot. Look at the Bungles mess;Minnesota, the Gnts. I really think that people put too much into this during the present times. 20 years ago would be very different. Lets face the facts: Irvin made almost as much noise. And got almost as much attention. He was a great team player, but still. Frankly to me most of those making themost noise about TO are the ones that never wanted him here and hate him and are using every excuse to pontificate about him. I did NOT want him here- but as long as he is a Cowboy and producing on the field I am not going to get bent out of shape.
 

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T.O. brings a lot of this on himself though.

He loves playing the victim and loves being in the spotlight.

If he's producing for the team I don't care.
 

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Don't fall for the fallacy that this has no effect on the team or that they don't notice every single word...anyone who's ever played sports will tell you differently. You try to ignore it; you tell yourself it doesn't matter when you walk out on the field to play, but the bottom line is you are aware of everything that goes on.

Most players are sports fans like us...they watch ESPN religiously. Every time T.O. opens his mouth and talks about not trying, feeling alone, will confront a snitch, blah blah blah, instead of taking responsibility for his errors, they all see, hear, and notice it. They all have their opinions, and even those who like T.O. and don't think it matters are affected on some level by the circus.

Guys who go to the superbowl for the first time are often sidetracked and lose focus over the media circus. Teammates who are more old-school and would like to see T.O. suck it up and act like it matters to stay awake in meeting or to listen when your coach is giving a speech or at least give the impression to the world that our team is totally focused on football and the next opponent all week, have to wonder what's going on, especially the younger guys, and we have a young team.

When you see one of your better players, a guy who's supposed to be taking you to the promised land, acting like this, don't tell me it doesn't at least make some subtle difference...it has to. To say it doesn't is sticking your head in the sand or somewhere else.

The sky is not falling...no...it's what we signed up for when we brought T.O. in, so there's no reason to act shocked or upset...we knew we were sacrificing any type of normalcy and risking this very weekly circus act in exchange for a very good WR. So let's not pretend this is just so shocking...but let's not be fools and lie to ourselves and others and pretend it doesn't make any difference...that's idiotic as well.

Anything going on around your team and in the locker room that isn't helping your team in some way is hurting your team in some way.
 

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wayne_motley;1232122 said:
Don't fall for the fallacy that this has no effect on the team or that they don't notice every single word...anyone who's ever played sports will tell you differently. You try to ignore it; you tell yourself it doesn't matter when you walk out on the field to play, but the bottom line is you are aware of everything that goes on.

Most players are sports fans like us...they watch ESPN religiously. Every time T.O. opens his mouth and talks about not trying, feeling alone, will confront a snitch, blah blah blah, instead of taking responsibility for his errors, they all see, hear, and notice it. They all have their opinions, and even those who like T.O. and don't think it matters are affected on some level by the circus.

Guys who go to the superbowl for the first time are often sidetracked and lose focus over the media circus. Teammates who are more old-school and would like to see T.O. suck it up and act like it matters to stay awake in meeting or to listen when your coach is giving a speech or at least give the impression to the world that our team is totally focused on football and the next opponent all week, have to wonder what's going on, especially the younger guys, and we have a young team.

When you see one of your better players, a guy who's supposed to be taking you to the promised land, acting like this, don't tell me it doesn't at least make some subtle difference...it has to. To say it doesn't is sticking your head in the sand or somewhere else.

The sky is not falling...no...it's what we signed up for when we brought T.O. in, so there's no reason to act shocked or upset...we knew we were sacrificing any type of normalcy and risking this very weekly circus act in exchange for a very good WR. So let's not pretend this is just so shocking...but let's not be fools and lie to ourselves and others and pretend it doesn't make any difference...that's idiotic as well.

Anything going on around your team and in the locker room that isn't helping your team in some way is hurting your team in some way.

Great post Wayne, TO's crap may not be the sole reason if the Cowboys don't have the success they hope. But no way IMO, you can say that his constant drama does not impact the team in at least a small way.
 

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is how every expression he uses in press conferences or interviews then gets used religiously by posters (ex. "sucked", "churning the roster", "you are what you are", blah, blah, blah.) Yes, it was cool how Parcells put the reporters in their place. Stop lessening the effect of his comedy.
 

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I happen to give more credit to the players then some do. I think they are smart enough and sophisticated enough to ignore most of it. Maybe it does have some effect- BUT I really DOUBT it has all that much of an impact. Lets face it- there are a whole lot more important things going on and if you are letting this have an effect on you then you really are easily distractable and probably not all that good anyway.
 

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AINT, that the truth.
( couldn't resist, you set them up I'll knock em down")
 

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burmafrd;1232082 said:
you hear is so many getting trapped by the circus master again.
I think its clear that while it irritates BP, he can handle it. And the rest of the Boys are used to it by now and probably ignore it.

Nah..it's just T.O...:laugh2:
 

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After every thing that ****** says, especially the "I'm faking it" how could the team not wonder?
He short arms some passes (while TG takes a beating going after balls) he drops easy balls and runs the wrong routes on occasion. Yeah that wouldn't bother any teammates.;)
 

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that is a totally different thing then the circus. THAT is on the field stuff.
 
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