The 10 Worst Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Snubs

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I just took another look at all the members of the HOF and it's just an absolute joke
 

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I just took another look at all the members of the HOF and it's just an absolute joke

It's bad. Just like the NFL there are some who have been inducted that shouldn't be and others who should be but aren't. I understand the R&R HOF wants to cater to a broad audience, but clearly some of their members are very very loosely attached to R&R.
 

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I took a quick look. Madonna is in there. She doesn't have a rock & roll bone in her body.

She's a pop singer.

They do take a lot of liberty with what rock and roll means.
 

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so Ringo Starr has done enough as an individual artist to be inducted?
 

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I took a quick look. Madonna is in there. She doesn't have a rock & roll bone in her body.

She's a pop singer.

They do take a lot of liberty with what rock and roll means.

Very much so.

You have to go back to when the term was coined and the type of music that was played and accepted as "Rock n Roll".

I personally have no problems accepting pop-stars and some country-cross-over stars in the hall.

The other problem is that there wasn't a "Rock n Roll" Top 40. It was the Billboard Top 40. And after say '55 everything that showed up on the BB Top 40 was at the very worst R&R connected.

Listen to the first song recognized by many as the first R&R single, "Gee" by "The Crows". They are considered the first R&R group and that is the first R&R song.

Bottom line the term "Rock & Roll" has a much wider interpretation than what many recognize.
 

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Very much so.

You have to go back to when the term was coined and the type of music that was played and accepted as "Rock n Roll".

I personally have no problems accepting pop-stars and some country-cross-over stars in the hall.

The other problem is that there wasn't a "Rock n Roll" Top 40. It was the Billboard Top 40. And after say '55 everything that showed up on the BB Top 40 was at the very worst R&R connected.

Listen to the first song recognized by many as the first R&R single, "Gee" by "The Crows". They are considered the first R&R group and that is the first R&R song.

Bottom line the term "Rock & Roll" has a much wider interpretation than what many recognize.

I'm sure you are absolutely correct but that brush is very broad!

It doesn't matter I suppose other than just for argument sake. I found some of their inductees a little ridiculous but they didn't ask me!
 

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I'm sure you are absolutely correct but that brush is very broad!

It doesn't matter I suppose other than just for argument sake. I found some of their inductees a little ridiculous but they didn't ask me!

I don't have a problem with the broad brush, I have a problem with the choice of inductees like Ringo, when folks like Neil Sedaka and Connie Francis aren't in.

It just smacks of cronism and the whole thing being influenced by politics and who you know rather than the artists impact on the genre. I can't believe anyone would think Ringo's solo career was somehow greater than those of Francis and Sedaka.
 

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I don't have a problem with the broad brush, I have a problem with the choice of inductees like Ringo, when folks like Neil Sedaka and Connie Francis aren't in.

It just smacks of cronism and the whole thing being influenced by politics and who you know rather than the artists impact on the genre. I can't believe anyone would think Ringo's solo career was somehow greater than those of Francis and Sedaka.

I have heard of Neil Sedaka but do not know who Connie Francis is. :confused:
 

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I have heard of Neil Sedaka but do not know who Connie Francis is. :confused:

I had never heard of her when I was a kid growing up in the early 70's (she, like Neil and many other top singing stars of the late 50's and early 60's were blown off the charts starting in February of '64 by the Beatles and the first "British Invasion")...

Until one day a commercial came on TV offering a collection of her most famous hits. This was pretty standard fair in the 70's, there were many commercials for performers of the 50's & 60's. Folks like Connie Francis, Teresa Brewer, Slim Whitman, Mitch Miller.

Anyway that's how I found out about Connie Francis.

Go check out her stuff on Youtube. You'll see how/why she sold so many records.

Her story is a little sad in that (and I'm too lazy to look it up) she was raped in a hotel room around 1970, which caused her substantial emotional trauma.
 

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I had never heard of her when I was a kid growing up in the early 70's (she, like Neil and many other top singing stars of the late 50's and early 60's were blown off the charts starting in February of '64 by the Beatles and the first "British Invasion")...

Until one day a commercial came on TV offering a collection of her most famous hits. This was pretty standard fair in the 70's, there were many commercials for performers of the 50's & 60's. Folks like Connie Francis, Teresa Brewer, Slim Whitman, Mitch Miller.

Anyway that's how I found out about Connie Francis.

Go check out her stuff on Youtube. You'll see how/why she sold so many records.

Her story is a little sad in that (and I'm too lazy to look it up) she was raped in a hotel room around 1970, which caused her substantial emotional trauma.

I will look her up. Thank you.

The rape thing is very sad. :(
 

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The 10 Worst Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Snubs.



I don't agree with all 10 but most of them deserve to be in the R&R HOF. Especially if you can sell out a 10-12,000+ seat arena on a weekday night after 30+ years in the industry. Some of the weak bands currently in the HOF couldn't do that if they tried.


I did not know Deep Purple was not in.
They should have been in the inaugural class.
 

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Very much so.

You have to go back to when the term was coined and the type of music that was played and accepted as "Rock n Roll".

I personally have no problems accepting pop-stars and some country-cross-over stars in the hall.

The other problem is that there wasn't a "Rock n Roll" Top 40. It was the Billboard Top 40. And after say '55 everything that showed up on the BB Top 40 was at the very worst R&R connected.

Listen to the first song recognized by many as the first R&R single, "Gee" by "The Crows". They are considered the first R&R group and that is the first R&R song.

Bottom line the term "Rock & Roll" has a much wider interpretation than what many recognize.



Yeah. It should be renamed. Rock and roll should not have such a wide interpretation.

(Pro football fall of fame, baseball...basketball)

Music Hall of Fame
Then have categories maybe... Rock, pop, metal, r&b, blue
 

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Yeah. It should be renamed. Rock and roll should not have such a wide interpretation.

(Pro football fall of fame, baseball...basketball)

Music Hall of Fame
Then have categories maybe... Rock, pop, metal, r&b, blue

Great idea!
 

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I've never paid any attention to Karaoke Journey but I stumbled across this video and damn this guy is pretty amazing to sing this and play the drums.
 
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