The 2015 Dallas Cowboys and the Myth of DeMarco Murray

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Not completely true. Murray's fumble was huge, also before the half our offense screwed up a sure field goal and then put their offense in a good position to score on us. That was a 6 point swing right there. There were several other mistakes throughout the game. It was honestly a team loss.

With regards to Murray.. there was no myth, he was a very legit running back. He wasn't perfect.. he ran to the dark at times and had an issue with fumbling but when he was on he demoralized defenses. Teams had to do all they could to have a chance to stop our run game and that opened up the passing game and ate up a ton of clock. Nobody on the team currently can replace the production of Murray. We just have to hope Randle pans out because he is literally our only hope at this point.

I am not so sure of the game situation when this happened. Seems to my foggy recollection this was late in the game and if we scored we would have been up with little time left on the clock. Can any one refresh my memory of what the score was at this time and how much time was on the clock. If I recall correctly, which may not be correct as I remember becoming mad as a whacked hornets nest and things get hazy after that. it was late and we were on a drive to go ahead with little time left. meaning we probably win and move on, then the gut punch/floor falling out from under us feeling that leads to a perhaps distorted memory. I know the fumble happened early in the 2nd half and if I am recalling rightly, we over came that with a chance to win on the Dez non catch play.
 

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If Randle is so great, why didnt he carry the rock more last year?

The coaches clearly thought DM was better.....much better.

With this OL, were going to be a Run first team. Why would you want to get cute and have Romo scrambling around back there more often? I say we protect Romo as much as possible....I dont want to see Romo get hit period. At all. I want him to just go to the ground, like he has been doing, as soon as pressure gets close.....just go down Tony. Its a long season, save all that stuff for when its do or die time. otherwise, hand the ball off, get a clean protected pocket, or just take knee. Blitz coming? chuck it out of bounds , take the penalty..... we simply cant lose T. Romo.

You protect Romo by Running the Ball. That should be the game plan. And if we cant run the football. Were in trouble.....Thats when we will see Romo get smacked around...not good.
 

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I personally agree with what you say in principle, but, the reason we didn't make it further was the refs stole a catch from Dez. Rule that a catch, which it was, and we are probably playing in the superbowl.

Can't really blame the refs though- they are part of the game, and there are more than one play in a game. We should have taken care of business when we had the chance, our downfall. Lesson learned- never put the game in the hands of the refs...
 

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What if Randle gets injured? Are we really going to depend on McFadden and Dunbar to handle the running game?
 

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http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/n...o-Murray/72d0b97c-bd3d-4093-b156-5917c5041220
Running back DeMarco Murray 's 2014 workload has been well documented. The NFL's rushing champion had 80 more attempts on the ground in the regular season than any other running back. That doesn't include his 57 receptions or 48 total touches in the playoffs.

How does he feel going into the 2015 season? “Amazing” was the word Murray used as a guest this week on The Rich Eisen Show.

"I feel stronger, faster than I have ever felt in my life," Murray said thanks to the Eagles’ sports science program as well as his own work ethic.

Interesting. If he's faster than he's ever been in his life, he's clearly faster than Randle.

That was a good interview, he tried several times to get murray to say something negative on the cowboys and murray would not
say anything about the cowboys except he wishes them well and he had 4 great years here.
He said he likes where he is at and did want to play with bradford his college roommate and friend.

He did say once he became a free agent and was not signed, he knew he would be playing elsewhere.
He said his focus is on Atlanta, week 1 , not the dallas games.
 

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It was much more than just that one play. In fact I don't even bring up that play when discussing that game. The complete meltdown at the end of the 1st half to give away 3pts when we could have been up 14 or at least a minimum of 10. Murray's fumble. Escobar not recovering the easy fumble of the kickoff when we were up 8. Letting consecutive backbreaking drives of 80 and 90yds to a gimpy Rodgers and forgetting how to cover in the 2nd half. Especially their 4th WR who killed us. One being he was left wide open on a 3rd and 15.

series in 2nd Qtr, where witten runs the route 1 yard short, then tony kills the run on 3rd and 1, then fumbles the snap, then bailey
misses a 45 yd fg, but the line had a false start, so got another chance and missed the 50 yd try, it hit a packers finger, but I think it would have fone right regardless.
They self destructed on that drive, and got no points, and gave gb the ball at the 45 so they could then drive for a fg in 30 seconds.
 

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Gus Johnson might be getting some playing time this season if things keep happening the way they have. Just saying . . . our RBs are going down one by one and Gus is looking like he might be worth keeping. Things are getting curiouser and curiouser all the time with this RB situation.
 

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series in 2nd Qtr, where witten runs the route 1 yard short, then tony kills the run on 3rd and 1, then fumbles the snap, then bailey
misses a 45 yd fg, but the line had a false start, so got another chance and missed the 50 yd try, it hit a packers finger, but I think it would have fone right regardless.
They self destructed on that drive, and got no points, and gave gb the ball at the 45 so they could then drive for a fg in 30 seconds.

Romo shouldn't have killed that run. Throwing deep there was a huge mistake. Pick up the one yard on a run and keep the clock going. Get your points... Either Td or field goal and go into halftime. Instead we ended up with a 6 point swing.
 

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Gus Johnson might be getting some playing time this season if things keep happening the way they have. Just saying . . . our RBs are going down one by one and Gus is looking like he might be worth keeping. Things are getting curiouser and curiouser all the time with this RB situation.

No way Randle or DMC make it through the whole year. They bettee get some vet help. Chris Johnson,Ray Rice, etc
 

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I'm far more excited about this 2015 team than I was even about our team after it made it to the playoffs last year. I think this team isn't as reliant on any individual for success, which is a good thing, especially at the running back position.

I hear so many people lamenting the loss of DeMarco Murray. I never wanted to sign him back for anything much more than 4 million a year, certainly not anything close to the 8 million per year that the Eagles gave him, which like Laurent Robinson who was aided by Tony Romo, I think the Eagles will find that the DeMarco Murray experiment in Philly is short lived. His production will wane, and as he gets older and slower, his dependability will reduce greatly. I'm sure fumbles will continue to be a problem for him as well.

It's very interesting what the Eagles have done. They really want to be the 2014 Dallas Cowboys, but with a better defense and a worse offense. They think that they can win the time of possession battle with the running backs that they have, but without an offense that can actually score points, that will never come to fruition.

Don't get me wrong, DeMarco Murray is a great player, but he average 4.7 yards per carry last year. That isn't insanely good. It was primarily great for how many carries he had, but he also slowed down in the second half of the year, especially in the last quarter.

In the second half of the season he dropped from 5.1 yards per carry to 4.2 yards per carry. In December he averaged 3.8 yards per carry. Again, this isn't a knock on him, what it is, is a knock on the idea that you can put the weight of the entire running game on one person the entire season, and expect to maintain production through out. To Philly's credit, that is not what they are doing here. And to our credit that is not what we are doing here anymore either.

The idea that you need one person to replace Murray's production and the fact that we do not have that player is looking at the situation wrong. Instead of having one player we have three players who are all more explosive and dynamic than Murray. Each has the ability with the offensive line's run blocking to average more than 5.1 yards per carry in my mind. By relying on 3 guys instead of 1 or even 2, you know have the ability to sustain production for the entire year as opposed to have a huge drop off at the end of the year.

This brings me back to the 2015 team. I think this team is going to be much more dynamic and explosive on offense than the 2014 team. I think you're going to see huge gains out of the running game on a regular basis, and I think you're going to see the passing pick up the slack when it comes to consistently moving the chain when the running game isn't completely successful. I think that is why we re-signed Cole Beasley, and I think that investment has already shown dividends if you've seen him in training camp or in the blue/white scrimmage. I expect to see us pass the ball more, and that isn't a bad thing. We were 7th in the league in yards last year and only 5th in scoring, because we handcuffed the offense.

This brings me to a greater point, which is that this team will be completely different from the 2014 team. We no longer need to win the time of possession in order to beat teams. We can be aggressive and dynamic on offense without the fear of putting the defense on the field for a long time. This is a complete game changer. Being more aggressive on offense and defense will pay dividends, similar to what we saw from the Saints in 2009. Early leads, leading to reckless and aggressive play by opposing QBs which will lead to more turnovers. This is the first time since 2009 that we've had an offense and a defense, and I think we'll have them from the get go, despite suspensions to Hardy and McClain.

The 2014 team was fundamentally flawed, and that is why we didn't make it further. That fundamental flaw is no longer an issue, and our greatest strength last year was not the running game. The running game simply represented our crutches. We are off those crutches now, but people still think we need to rely on them and are freaking out that we don't have them. We can walk now, hell we can run now. That isn't to say we will abandon the run going forward, but we don't need to use it to the extent that we did last year. There are other options that are just as good if not better i.e. more targets to Cole Beasley, which are high percentage in nature. At 8.5 yards per target, expanding Beasley's involvement in the offense is the best way to make up the difference in consistency and production.

Nicely said. I agree with 95% of your take. And I cetainly agree that this offense will be more explosive with faster, more exposive backs in the run game than Murray. And I believe they will pass a little more to the backs this year because of that.

But I dont see this as a reason to MORE aggressive and take more risks. If anything, the improved defense should allow us to take less chances. I would continue to fucus on the run game until its clear it isnt working.
 

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If Randle is so great, why didnt he carry the rock more last year?

The coaches clearly thought DM was better.....much better.

With this OL, were going to be a Run first team. Why would you want to get cute and have Romo scrambling around back there more often? I say we protect Romo as much as possible....I dont want to see Romo get hit period. At all. I want him to just go to the ground, like he has been doing, as soon as pressure gets close.....just go down Tony. Its a long season, save all that stuff for when its do or die time. otherwise, hand the ball off, get a clean protected pocket, or just take knee. Blitz coming? chuck it out of bounds , take the penalty..... we simply cant lose T. Romo.

You protect Romo by Running the Ball. That should be the game plan. And if we cant run the football. Were in trouble.....Thats when we will see Romo get smacked around...not good.

I can use the same argument...

If the team felt Murray was so much better than Randle...why didn't they keep Murray?
 

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On the other hand, I anticipate more people will ramp up their anxieties about the running backs when the season begins. Then one of two things will happen. More people will do their customary shock and amazement routines if one or more of the running backs can contribute and stay healthy. Or more people will fall automatically drop down into their disapproval and depression cocoons, salting the airwaves and internet with Demarco "I told you so" Murray regrets.

Those that defend Murray only defend him from the standpoint of fans minimizing the fact that he was a good running back. You won't see many "I told you so" with regards to Murray as much as not adequately addressing the RB position. Most pro-Murray guys, and I'm one of them, can agree with the fact that he out-priced himself out of Dallas. What I don't agree with is the fact that Randle and Dunbar can adequately replace Murray and keep the chains moving. But hey, folks cling to that 7 plus YPC until their fingers bleed so more power to them I guess.
 

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Those that defend Murray only defend him from the standpoint of fans minimizing the fact that he was a good running back. You won't see many "I told you so" with regards to Murray as much as not adequately addressing the RB position. Most pro-Murray guys, and I'm one of them, can agree with the fact that he out-priced himself out of Dallas. What I don't agree with is the fact that Randle and Dunbar can adequately replace Murray and keep the chains moving. But hey, folks cling to that 7 plus YPC until their fingers bleed so more power to them I guess.

Randles ypc is a silly way to assess the situation...the eye test is all I need...I saw enough from Randle last year, to believe he can replace and maybe even out produce Murray...does that mean I'm right? Absolutely not...but I'm sure glad we are giving him a chance over keeping Murray...
 

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Randles ypc is a silly way to assess the situation...the eye test is all I need...I saw enough from Randle last year, to believe he can replace and maybe even out produce Murray...does that mean I'm right? Absolutely not...but I'm sure glad we are giving him a chance over keeping Murray...

I'm not glad we couldn't keep Murray (unless you're referring to the financial side of the decision). I'll take a known commodity any day over Randle. Just my opinion.
 

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I'm not glad we couldn't keep Murray (unless you're referring to the financial side of the decision). I'll take a known commodity any day over Randle. Just my opinion.

I agree. From a business stand point I agree with the Cowboys but from a strictly football stand point I hated losing a proven RB in Murray
 

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Randles ypc is a silly way to assess the situation...the eye test is all I need...I saw enough from Randle last year, to believe he can replace and maybe even out produce Murray...does that mean I'm right? Absolutely not...but I'm sure glad we are giving him a chance over keeping Murray...

YPC and your eye test are both silly ways to assess the situation.
 

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Those that defend Murray only defend him from the standpoint of fans minimizing the fact that he was a good running back. You won't see many "I told you so" with regards to Murray as much as not adequately addressing the RB position. Most pro-Murray guys, and I'm one of them, can agree with the fact that he out-priced himself out of Dallas. What I don't agree with is the fact that Randle and Dunbar can adequately replace Murray and keep the chains moving. But hey, folks cling to that 7 plus YPC until their fingers bleed so more power to them I guess.
That's understandable. I'm only foreseeing how people may react in the future. For me it would be better for the season to start now instead of later--so people can finally express themselves based upon what they're actually seeing during the regular season and not constantly dread upon what they expect to see.
 

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That's understandable. I'm only foreseeing how people may react in the future. For me it would be better for the season to start now instead of later--so people can finally express themselves based upon what they're actually seeing during the regular season and not constantly dread upon what they expect to see.

Irvin pretty much stated how I feel Irvin: “Nervous Anticipation”
 
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