The 2nd PI on Miles

[TheCount]

Okay, I like to think I am somewhat lax on calling fouls (I'm glad they let both teams play when it came to hitting the QB, cause last season a couple of those would have been roughing the passer) but am I wrong in seeing no reason why the flag SHOULD NOT have been thrown on the 2nd pass interference?

Not only was his arm pulled, but he was tripped from behind, with the CB chasing him, not like they were running stride for stride next to each other and their feet happened to tangle.

I've heard a couple of analysts now say they should have "let them play" or that it wasn't interference at all, and I just don't see how that's possible.

If you're chasing a guy and you trip him, even without the tug, I would think that's a flag everytime. Am I wrong?

 

[Chocolate Lab]

You're not wrong. That was a definite PI and there shouldn't even have been a question about it.

 

[theogt]

LOL. I agree that cornerbacks should not be allowed to tackle WRs from behind.

If so, Roy Williams would probably kick *** in coverage.

 

[SacredStar]

I know a lot of people are questioning that call.

But most of them are haters and Packer fans.

I know a lot of people are saying it was legit.

Maybe the league will review it and finalize a proper answer.

Packer fans should be the last people to complain about the officiating in any of their games.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

even if he didn't trip up Austin, he should have been flagged for illegal contact after 5 yards

 

[CanadianCowboysFan]

even if he didn't trip up Austin, he should have been flagged for illegal contact after 5 yards

 

[SacredStar]

even if he didn't trip up Austin, he should have been flagged for illegal contact after 5 yards

Exactly.

Since that play was a 1st and 10 on the GB 47, then that would have made it 1st and 5 on the Green Bay 42 if I'm not mistaken.

The probability of Dallas scoring again was high, penalty or not.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Exactly.

Since that play was a 1st and 10 on the GB 47, then that would have made it 1st and 5 on the Green Bay 42 if I'm not mistaken.

The probability of Dallas scoring again was high, penalty or not.

of course if he didn't trip up Austin, that would have been a Cowboy TD

 

[BigWillie]

Exactly.

Since that play was a 1st and 10 on the GB 47, then that would have made it 1st and 5 on the Green Bay 42 if I'm not mistaken.

The probability of Dallas scoring again was high, penalty or not.

Illegal contact is an automatic 1st down.

But that is neither here nor there, as it was DPI without question. It almost looked as if the CB intended to trip him the entire time, IMO. But he grabbed him before that, so it doesn't really matter.

 

[kramskoi]

Okay, I like to think I am somewhat lax on calling fouls (I'm glad they let both teams play when it came to hitting the QB, cause last season a couple of those would have been roughing the passer) but am I wrong in seeing no reason why the flag SHOULD NOT have been thrown on the 2nd pass interference?

Not only was his arm pulled, but he was tripped from behind, with the CB chasing him, not like they were running stride for stride next to each other and their feet happened to tangle.

I've heard a couple of analysts now say they should have "let them play" or that it wasn't interference at all, and I just don't see how that's possible.

If you're chasing a guy and you trip him, even without the tug, I would think that's a flag everytime. Am I wrong?

remember the Moss penalty on Watkins...goes around comes around...won't lose sleep over it...you get some and you give some...it all comes out in the wash...

 

[Pabst]

What I don't understand is that, to me, it looked pretty obvious that the defender at least grabbed a little of the jersey from shoulder pad area, as well as back.

Now, anyone that's ever run full sprint and then had someone grab their tshirt and pull back, knows that it will instantly kill their top line speed. This is what happened, although the defender did his best to make it look like he was keeping up with Austin.

If it's not a PI, then it's at least an illegal contact.. and since the ball was in the air, well, that's an easy call, imo.

 

[rkstevens]

For real... I guess if you get beat you can just run up behind a guy now and try to get your feet tangled up with him as he strides and it's not pass interference. You don't even have to use your hands.

 

[superpunk]

Actions that constitute defensive pass interference include but are not limited to:

(a) Contact by a defender who is not playing the ball and such contact restricts the receiver’s opportunity to make the catch.

(b) Playing through the back of a receiver in an attempt to make a play on the ball.

(c) Grabbing a receiver’s arm(s) in such a manner that restricts his opportunity to catch a pass.

(d) Extending an arm across the body of a receiver thus restricting his ability to catch a pass, regardless of whether the defender is playing the ball.

(e) Cutting off the path of a receiver by making contact with him without playing the ball.

(f) Hooking a receiver in an attempt to get to the ball in such a manner that it causes the receiver’s body to turn prior to the ball arriving.

Chris Collinsworth is a dewsh.

 

[AdamJT13]

The key is that the defensive back wasn't looking for the ball when he made either contact. He looked back earlier, but he turned and looked at Austin, then grabbed him, then got his legs tangled up with Austin. If he had been looking for the ball, he might have gotten away with either of those.

 

[odog422]

Without question it was PI since he wasn't looking for the ball. But if you look closely from the end zone view you can see he deliberately tripped Austin hoping to get the inadvertant contact call.

 

[AmishCowboy]

I don't know what Collingsworth was talking about that was easily PI.

 

[NoLuv4Jerry]

Illegal contact is an automatic 1st down.

But that is neither here nor there, as it was DPI without question. It almost looked as if the CB intended to trip him the entire time, IMO. But he grabbed him before that, so it doesn't really matter.

he ABSOLUTLEY meant to trip him BECAUSE he was BEAT. Bryant Gumbel is beyond horrible...if the NFL Network wants to be a big time player in broadcasting NFL games, they better step their game up in that department. It's almost as if they were trying to add sizzle to this game....I mean why would you constantly show a replay of a deliberate and obvious PI, then question it. Almost as if they were trying to convince us our eye's were seeing something different. Common sense says if a guy reaches out and pulls someone it is because they sense they are beat...it was blatant. And when someone is running forward and you begin to yank them back, it is HIGHLY LIKELY they will lose stride and probable that their feet would get tangled. This was the biggest non-issue turned attempted relevant issue I have seen in a long time during a football game

 

[sacase]

The only time it matters if the legs get tangled is if they are both playing the ball. Austin was, the safety or whoever, wasn't. Penalty, no question.

 

[AMERICAS_FAN]

Okay, I like to think I am somewhat lax on calling fouls (I'm glad they let both teams play when it came to hitting the QB, cause last season a couple of those would have been roughing the passer) but am I wrong in seeing no reason why the flag SHOULD NOT have been thrown on the 2nd pass interference?

Not only was his arm pulled, but he was tripped from behind, with the CB chasing him, not like they were running stride for stride next to each other and their feet happened to tangle.

I've heard a couple of analysts now say they should have "let them play" or that it wasn't interference at all, and I just don't see how that's possible.

If you're chasing a guy and you trip him, even without the tug, I would think that's a flag everytime. Am I wrong?

This is interference because the defender grabbed the receiver's arm, which is what cuased the receiver to slow down so that their feet can get tangled. If this was just a matter of feet getting tangled then I don't think the call would (or should) have been made. But the hand pulling caused the tripping and that IS pass interference. The Head offiicial saw this and made the right call. The defender was clearly beat, and he knew he was about to be torcehed for the TD. So grabbing the receiver's arm was all that was left for him to do to save face.

**

 

[sbark]

Without question it was PI since he wasn't looking for the ball. But if you look closely from the end zone view you can see he deliberately tripped Austin hoping to get the inadvertant contact call.

agreed, from that angle it looked like the old gradeschool trick to throw just the foot into the moveing legs of the guy in front to at least trip him up and at worst get legs really tangled--at full speed, remember kids breaking legs with that stunt.