The Alshon Jeffery Conundrum

TellerMorrow34

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That's a lot of money for one position really. I mean if you had it because you needed nothing else that's one thing but we're not in the position, IMO, for such a pick up.
 

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In your first statement you're comparing Dez and Beasley as far as separation but failed to mention that Beasley needs Dez to be successful, Dez doesn't
need Beasley.


Not true. Dez has failed to get open in many games even with Romo playing. Dez can be taken out of games just
as easily as the Beaz. Any receiver can be taken out with the right defensive coverage.
 

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ok, not with this we get this player and we will have the best offense this and best offense that....same thing was said about Galloway, Irvin, rocket ismail years ago...unstoippable, opens things up, etc.

Chicago had Jeffries and marshall and matt forte and they weren't unstoppable......

will he make us better? yes. we got long ways to go before becoming the best offense....and in case you missed it......best defense won the superbowl

Very different situation. Had Aikman not gone out for the rest of his career AND Galloway getting hurt in the first game, that very well may have been the case.

Chicago had a terrible offensive line and they had Jay Cutler...
 

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That's a lot of money for one position really. I mean if you had it because you needed nothing else that's one thing but we're not in the position, IMO, for such a pick up.

It sounds like a luxury, but being able to dictate to defenses would really help us out. You help the offense and you help the defense as well.
 

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Wins doesn't mean the offense played well, nor can you extrapolate wins across the board.

There you go again, over thinking it. A win is a win is a win. No matter how it gets done... it counts the same. Extrapolate? I did know you even knew that word. Would you rather round down? Fine, winning 3 of 4 Romo starts let's pretend to ignore that's a 12-4 pace. Let say they lose a couple more. That's still a 10-6 season which still would have got us to the playoffs last season. We can only estimate with the numbers we have.
 

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Very different situation. Had Aikman not gone out for the rest of his career AND Galloway getting hurt in the first game, that very well may have been the case.

Chicago had a terrible offensive line and they had Jay Cutler...

again, there has rarely been unstoppable offenses. the best one that comes to mind is the Patriots that went 18-0 and they were stopped as well.

year in year out....defense wins championships....end of story...that's where you put your dollars.
 

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There you go again, over thinking it. A win is a win is a win. No matter how it gets done... it counts the same. Extrapolate? I did know you even knew that word. Would you rather round down? Fine, winning 3 of 4 Romo starts let's pretend to ignore that's a 12-4 pace. Let say they lose a couple more. That's still a 10-6 season which still would have got us to the playoffs last season. We can only estimate with the numbers we have.

It's not overthinking it. My claim was that the offense did not play well, even with Romo. Winning a game despite the offense not playing well, doesn't mean the offense played well, and certainly doesn't mean you can extrapolate the wins over the course of the season. Nor does it mean that you should ride through with that status quo the next season.
 

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again, there has rarely been unstoppable offenses. the best one that comes to mind is the Patriots that went 18-0 and they were stopped as well.

year in year out....defense wins championships....end of story...that's where you put your dollars.

Elite defenses win championships, and short of that you need offense as well.

The Cowboys are much closer to having an elite offense than an elite defense. Alshon Jeffery can take this offense to another level. Not many other positions or players can do that for the team.
 

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It's not overthinking it. My claim was that the offense did not play well, even with Romo. Winning a game despite the offense not playing well, doesn't mean the offense played well, and certainly doesn't mean you can extrapolate the wins over the course of the season. Nor does it mean that you should ride through with that status quo the next season.

Saying the same thing over and over again isn't going to make your idea any more valid. Maybe you've never played football but it's normal for the offence to struggle. It wasn't so bad for Romo that he didn't get 3 wins out of his 4 starts. You are making a big deal of nothing.
 

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Agree with you but in Dallas it doesn't apply to us. We need to be superior everywhere.

Defenses dictate where the ball goes and if we are willing to let them do that then a superstar #2 receiver would be nice.

Hahahahahaha. Now that you said it I can't unbelieve it.
 

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Elite defenses win championships, and short of that you need offense as well.

The Cowboys are much closer to having an elite offense than an elite defense. Alshon Jeffery can take this offense to another level. Not many other positions or players can do that for the team.

we will have a tough time winning with an elite offense only. we need to build the defense, even elite offense like the one manning had in Indy didn't succeed until they improved their defense. top 4 team in each league and the teams that get to the superbowl normally have good offenses and its the defenses that make the difference. a good offense will get you to the playoffs, but things get tough from there.
 

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Because Garrett's scheme relies on "line up and beat your man", since he doesn't have an ounce of creativity.

This...

Garrett came from the 90s Cowboys where the offense had only a handful of plays. But no one could stop them. I think Emmitt said that they had about 6 run plays. Run left, Run right, and run up the middle, and a couple others.... Garrett needs that team to be successful. So we either 1. get pro bowlers at every position or 2. get a coach who is creative a can get mismatches or 3. continue being average.
 

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Whitehead is a burner, Terrence Williams is a burner. They need playmakers. That's Jeffrey's.

Well, by your logic, Dez is a playmaker, so we don't need Jeffrey in that regard. Either way, I wouldn't classify either of those guys as burners.
 

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Well, by your logic, Dez is a playmaker, so we don't need Jeffrey in that regard. Either way, I wouldn't classify either of those guys as burners.

No we need PLAYMAKERS. Doesn't matter where he plays. Whether its tight end, running back or receiver. If I can find a playmaker and a game changer at receiver I do it. This team just needs more people willing to make plays and that are game changers. And I don't know why you wouldn't classify them as burners. Maybe you'r thinking of Desean Jackson type burner but there's a handful of guys like him in this league. Whitehead and Terrence Williams are not your average receivers when it comes to speed.
 

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I would much rather they entice a RB with that cash.

No sure if serious.. did you not see them let Murray walk over money? That proved to be a good decision when the guy they got to replace him on the cheap out rushed him by like 300 yards. They aren't paying big money for the RB position. The big money goes to QBs and WRs.
 
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