The Big Ben Gardner Thread
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Pessimist_cowboy
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very happy with this pick!
AKATheRake
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Get me Quarles and Jeffcoat.
This guy is LDE but very slow.
This guy is LDE but very slow.
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Good 10-yard split and very good ss, 3-cone and vert.
Height: 6041
Weight: 262
40 Yrd Dash: 5.03
20 Yrd Dash: 2.83
10 Yrd Dash: 1.69
225 Lb. Bench Reps:
Vertical Jump: 39 1/2
Broad Jump: 10'02"
20 Yrd Shuttle: 4.24
3-Cone Drill: 6.98
I guess that he is a SDE, but he is good as an inside rusher. Could bulk up a little and be a Nickel DT.
Height: 6041
Weight: 262
40 Yrd Dash: 5.03
20 Yrd Dash: 2.83
10 Yrd Dash: 1.69
225 Lb. Bench Reps:
Vertical Jump: 39 1/2
Broad Jump: 10'02"
20 Yrd Shuttle: 4.24
3-Cone Drill: 6.98
I guess that he is a SDE, but he is good as an inside rusher. Could bulk up a little and be a Nickel DT.
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Good, we need some DT help too. Hope we pick one up with these last picks.
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I don't think there's any doubt they want him at SDE. The time you have for him at his pro day 40 is also the slowest I've seen.
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Holy smokes he is athletic. His iron triangle, 3 cone and shuttle score are excellent for 260 lbs. Would like a better 10 yard split though.
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Strengths:
Weaknesses:
Summary: Ever since Jim Harbaugh took over Stanford, the Cardinal has featured a lot of tough physical players who control the line of scrimmage. Harbaugh recruited Gardner to Palo Alto from Mequon, Wisconsin because Gardner is a perfect fit for that style of play. At Stanford, Gardner was a nasty defender who spent the past three seasons as a bully up front.
Gardner was playing really well for Stanford in 2013 before a torn pectoral muscle ended his season after eight games. Gardner going down was a huge loss for the Stanford defense, and he was never truly replaced. Gardner was providing a lot of disruption with some big plays. In his eight games, he recorded 19 tackles, 7.5 tackles for a loss, 4.5 sacks and a forced fumble. The stats don't illustrate it, but Gardner helped teammate Trent Murphy lead the nation in sacks.
Gardner had a strong 2012 season with 49 tackles, 14.5 tackles for a loss, 7.5 sacks, five passes batted and a huge forced fumble - against Notre Dame. He had 35 tackles, 10 tackles for a loss and 4.5 sacks in 2011.
To go along with his physicality, Gardner is very intelligent. He reads plays well and routinely gets in a position to help stuff runs. Gardner has more burst than one would think as a pass-rusher. He has excellent hands to shed linemen and cause disruption. Gardner also gives great effort and doesn't take plays off. He and Murphy formed a fabulous inside-outside tandem in the first half of the 2013 season for the Cardinal. Gardner played defensive end and tackle for Stanford.
At the next level, Gardner would fit best as a five-technique defensive end in a 3-4 defense. He has the length and strength at the point of attack to occupy offensive tackles and free up edge-rushers. Gardner would be a tough run-defender against tackles with the ability to offer some pass rush. In a 4-3 defense, he could move around the line but would probably end up as a left defensive end taking on right tackles.
- Very physical
- Great use of hands to shed blocks
- Able to use hands and feet at same time
- Can contribute some pass rush from the inside
- Instinctive
- Surprising burst
- Extremely strong hands
- Excellent motor
- Strong for his size
- Displays a mean streak
- Scheme versatility
- Intelligent
Weaknesses:
- Durability, coming off a torn pectoral injury
- Tweener defensive end/tackle
- Lacks speed around the edge
Summary: Ever since Jim Harbaugh took over Stanford, the Cardinal has featured a lot of tough physical players who control the line of scrimmage. Harbaugh recruited Gardner to Palo Alto from Mequon, Wisconsin because Gardner is a perfect fit for that style of play. At Stanford, Gardner was a nasty defender who spent the past three seasons as a bully up front.
Gardner was playing really well for Stanford in 2013 before a torn pectoral muscle ended his season after eight games. Gardner going down was a huge loss for the Stanford defense, and he was never truly replaced. Gardner was providing a lot of disruption with some big plays. In his eight games, he recorded 19 tackles, 7.5 tackles for a loss, 4.5 sacks and a forced fumble. The stats don't illustrate it, but Gardner helped teammate Trent Murphy lead the nation in sacks.
Gardner had a strong 2012 season with 49 tackles, 14.5 tackles for a loss, 7.5 sacks, five passes batted and a huge forced fumble - against Notre Dame. He had 35 tackles, 10 tackles for a loss and 4.5 sacks in 2011.
To go along with his physicality, Gardner is very intelligent. He reads plays well and routinely gets in a position to help stuff runs. Gardner has more burst than one would think as a pass-rusher. He has excellent hands to shed linemen and cause disruption. Gardner also gives great effort and doesn't take plays off. He and Murphy formed a fabulous inside-outside tandem in the first half of the 2013 season for the Cardinal. Gardner played defensive end and tackle for Stanford.
At the next level, Gardner would fit best as a five-technique defensive end in a 3-4 defense. He has the length and strength at the point of attack to occupy offensive tackles and free up edge-rushers. Gardner would be a tough run-defender against tackles with the ability to offer some pass rush. In a 4-3 defense, he could move around the line but would probably end up as a left defensive end taking on right tackles.
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guag
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According to his NFL.com draft profile:
He can play inside it seems, but probably can't get much bigger than his 260-ish weight.
