The bottom Line - the Cowboys (and 31 other teams) are making money

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Is this true? Can you cite a source? If so, I will be shocked.

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/...ree-agency-this-offseason-20150305-story.html

And eight franchises – the Raiders, Panthers, Jaguars, Jets, Chargers, Cowboys, Colts and Giants – have to dole out over $100 million in actual cash – not contracts – over the next two years. That means we can officially see some money being spent on larger signing bonuses, and more guaranteed money these next two seasons.
 

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DAL is making 200-300m more in revenue than other top teams......that is why they are singled out

Yes, and they were making more at the beginning of the chart too. Markets define revenue which is all relative. A team with $300 million revenue in a smaller market can actually earn a higher percentage of profit and even actual profit than a team making $600 million in another market. Just like an individual working in a small town may make $30,000 per year and be able to buy a new house and car and still have money left over, while someone else working in a large city may make $60,000 per year and struggle just to pay rent while having to rely on public transportation.

The only real relevant financial stats to use when comparing different markets, at least on the surface, are trending percentages and patterns over time. If you notice, all NFL teams are trending upwards.
 

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http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/...ree-agency-this-offseason-20150305-story.html

And eight franchises – the Raiders, Panthers, Jaguars, Jets, Chargers, Cowboys, Colts and Giants – have to dole out over $100 million in actual cash – not contracts – over the next two years. That means we can officially see some money being spent on larger signing bonuses, and more guaranteed money these next two seasons.

Does this explain the complacency with Carr's contract and overpaying our own talent (Dez/Tyron/Romo exception)?;) Lee, Crawford, Church. Most of that (signing bonuses used to create room) is covered currently by Romo along with Scan, Witten, Lee, Tyron, Crawford and Dez, so see your point. Does Ro/Mo fit this or are they designated as new signings (honest q)?
 
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I was first row upper deck for my first game, at the 45 yard line and it felt like I was watching the game from the Rangers ballpark.

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I mean just look how far back from the field that upper deck is pushed. It's literally 50-75 yards away from the sideline. It's a terrible venue for anything other than packing in as many people and making as much $ as you can per game. It feels like nothing about the stadium was designed with actually watching the game in mind.

These stadiums aren't made for the people sitting in the 400's. The glass and all that is below is whose money they really want.

It's pretty obvious all over the country. Regular schmucks like us are getting priced out of everything.
 

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the stadium was built for the money making not the game to the nfl and all owners the game is secondary making money is first.

Exactly! Say what you want about Jerry (and believe me, I've had my share of negative things to say about him too despite what some people think), but the man knows how to make money and, more importantly, he knows how to make money that he doesn't have to share with the other owners.

Cowboys stadium was built as an entertainment venue that also happens to host 10-12 Cowboys football games each year. Think about that .. think about the size of Cowboys stadium and then consider that at best, the Cowboys play 2 preseason games, 8 regular season games and 2 playoff games (well .. some day maybe .. *laughs*) and that's it for the Cowboys. So 12 days out of 365, the stadium belongs to the Cowboys. The other 353 days? That's money for Jerry.
 

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I was first row upper deck for my first game, at the 45 yard line and it felt like I was watching the game from the Rangers ballpark.

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I mean just look how far back from the field that upper deck is pushed. It's literally 50-75 yards away from the sideline. It's a terrible venue for anything other than packing in as many people and making as much $ as you can per game. It feels like nothing about the stadium was designed with actually watching the game in mind.

it's sad b/c at the time the stadium was being built, i was posting on the dc.com forums. one of the head engineers for the project used to post updates/pics from time to time on the forum. he kept assuring us that the acoustics/atmosphere was a big priority for the jones family and heavily influenced the design/architecture. he couldn't have been more wrong. the jones family are tacky as hell with almost everything they do.
 

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Exactly! Say what you want about Jerry (and believe me, I've had my share of negative things to say about him too despite what some people think), but the man knows how to make money and, more importantly, he knows how to make money that he doesn't have to share with the other owners.

Cowboys stadium was built as an entertainment venue that also happens to host 10-12 Cowboys football games each year. Think about that .. think about the size of Cowboys stadium and then consider that at best, the Cowboys play 2 preseason games, 8 regular season games and 2 playoff games (well .. some day maybe .. *laughs*) and that's it for the Cowboys. So 12 days out of 365, the stadium belongs to the Cowboys. The other 353 days? That's money for Jerry.

why can't he do both? why not make money while building a facility that gives your team a home field advantage. the seahawks do it. they hold all kinds of events in their stadium while having an incredibly loud facility. he was more worried about the size of the stadium and screen then the acoustics in the stadium.
 

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why can't he do both? why not make money while building a facility that gives your team a home field advantage. the seahawks do it. they hold all kinds of events in their stadium while having an incredibly loud facility. he was more worried about the size of the stadium and screen then the acoustics in the stadium.

Personally, I hate the new stadium. Not how it looks (it's a beautiful stadium), but it was built for entertainment, not for the Cowboys. The stadium is such a huge destination that fans from other teams make the Cowboys game at Cowboys stadium worth the trip. The Cowboys have no identity at the stadium. If you watch the Bears, Packers, Commanders, Patriots, etc., their stadiums just scream football and their home team. The Cowboys stadium feels like a neutral field. It's like the Cowboys are playing in a college bowl game somewhere else.
 

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Personally, I hate the new stadium. Not how it looks (it's a beautiful stadium), but it was built for entertainment, not for the Cowboys. The stadium is such a huge destination that fans from other teams make the Cowboys game at Cowboys stadium worth the trip. The Cowboys have no identity at the stadium. If you watch the Bears, Packers, Commanders, Patriots, etc., their stadiums just scream football and their home team. The Cowboys stadium feels like a neutral field. It's like the Cowboys are playing in a college bowl game somewhere else.

i think it affects the way the team plays. i dont think it's a coincidence the team hasn't had a great defense in a long time.

it's weird man, you've got a coach preaching grit and blue collar football yet nothing about the franchise exudes that message.
 

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Yes, and they were making more at the beginning of the chart too. Markets define revenue which is all relative. A team with $300 million revenue in a smaller market can actually earn a higher percentage of profit and even actual profit than a team making $600 million in another market. Just like an individual working in a small town may make $30,000 per year and be able to buy a new house and car and still have money left over, while someone else working in a large city may make $60,000 per year and struggle just to pay rent while having to rely on public transportation.

The only real relevant financial stats to use when comparing different markets, at least on the surface, are trending percentages and patterns over time. If you notice, all NFL teams are trending upwards.

What you say doesn't pertain to DAL at all. They also top the league in profits and team value. They are an absolute ATM machine in spite of their record.

They don't choose to use these resources to their fullest impact. In fact they have chosen a strategy that looks more like the Oakland As with their 'Moneyball' identity. GB is conservative financially because they don't have the resources to compete with teams like DAL, WAS and NYG. They do it out of necessity, not because it a proven MO.
 
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