The bottom Line - the Cowboys (and 31 other teams) are making money

[Nightman]

Managing the cap isn't playing moneyball. It's being smart and trying to build a consistent winner.

If there was no cap and we took this approach you'd have a point. As it is... You don't.

Company man spouting the company line

 

[Nightman]

Revenue doesn't equate to profit, although I am sure their profits are through the roof.

Dallas' profits are larger than most teams revenues.

 

[CyberB0b]

Dallas' profits are larger than most teams revenues.

That is probably a false statement, but we don't know the numbers, so no point in arguing it.

 

[RS12]

I expect teams will put extra emphasis on turning profits these next 5-10 years because they are rightfully concerned that football is seeing its final days.

Laughable. As long as people are being paid millions to play the game, there will always be those who will take them up on it. It beats working in a cole mine. As far as the league race to make money the next decade, it will be the usual reasons, mostly greed.

 

[Nightman]

That is probably a false statement, but we don't know the numbers, so no point in arguing it.

Here is one example from 2013. DAL has a profit of 251m and SF is the 10th highest in revenue with 255m. It was only increased since then.

 

[CyberB0b]

Here is one example from 2013. DAL has a profit of 251m and SF is the 10th highest in revenue with 255m. It was only increased since then.

That chart is sorted by value, not revenue. Here is the 2014 chart:

http://www.forbes.com/nfl-valuations/list/#header:position

You will see that if you sort it by revenue, the lowest on the list is 281m. The Cowboys operating income on that list is only 270m. Anyways, I would be very curious as to how Forbes calculates operating income with no access to the balance sheets and income statements.

 

[conner01]

Is this true? Can you cite a source? If so, I will be shocked.

What you say doesn't pertain to DAL at all. They also top the league in profits and team value. They are an absolute ATM machine in spite of their record.

They don't choose to use these resources to their fullest impact. In fact they have chosen a strategy that looks more like the Oakland As with their 'Moneyball' identity. GB is conservative financially because they don't have the resources to compete with teams like DAL, WAS and NYG. They do it out of necessity, not because it a proven MO.

i think they been conservative the last couple years for two reasons. Big spending didn't win them anything and they want to keep their own young players. There is a simple reason almost every signing has been short term deals. Because you are about to have to start paying those guys on the oline

 

[Nightman]

i think they been conservative the last couple years for two reasons. Big spending didn't win them anything and they want to keep their own young players. There is a simple reason almost every signing has been short term deals. Because you are about to have to start paying those guys on the oline

I respectfully disagree.

He built the Death Star in 2009 and is now building Jonestown in Frisco.

They are printing money and that has become their number one objective. He will always have the 3 Super Bowl trophies. He is working on Legacy stuff now.

The actual football is coming in second to business.

 

[perrykemp]

That is probably a false statement, but we don't know the numbers, so no point in arguing it.

The only team in the NFL where the profit is known is Green Bay due to their status as a non-profit corporation.

If you are interest to see what the financials look like for a NFL team, albeit the most unusual team from a ownership/financial perspective, there are a lot of details in this article here.

Their operating profit was $14m on revenue of $375m.

$226 million of their revenue came from NFL revenue sharing. All teams received an equal amount.
$149 million of their revenue was 'local' review generated from their pro-shop and other team owned avenues that don't fall under NFL revenue sharing

Additionally, the Packers sit on a war-chest of $280 million (ie their reserve) which increases just about every year since they really have no place to spend it given the fact they have no owner taking money off the top, the already have top notch facilities (both practice and stadium), etc.

Considering how much more revenue the Cowboys make per year, its easy to understand how Jerry Jones's net worth continues to climb.

Unfortunately, under the NFL Salary Cap, this cash advantage really provides the Cowboys no real practical advantage.

 

[conner01]

I respectfully disagree.

He built the Death Star in 2009 and is now building Jonestown in Frisco.

They are printing money and that has become their number one objective. He will always have the 3 Super Bowl trophies. He is working on Legacy stuff now.

The actual football is coming in second to business.

I don't think there is anyone who wants the Cowboys to win more than jerry. Now that's not the same as making the right decisions to win but he wants to win more than anything.
Managing the cap and making money are two different things. Teams that have stadiums are gonna make money but they still have the same cap space as everyone else though they have more cash to throw around to get players
Some of the worst mistakes jerry has made have been in trying to win now. Joey Galloway is a prime example, going out and signing Carr, roy Williams. None of those were smart money moves, or football moves for that matter. But that's what he thought we needed to win.

 

[Toruk_Makto]

Company man spouting the company line

None of this runs contrary to the fact the Cowboys never have serious money under the cap and km fact for years had to move heaven and earth to get under the cap.

What I call facts you call the company line. It's quite embarrassing.

 

[Toruk_Makto]

I respectfully disagree.

He built the Death Star in 2009 and is now building Jonestown in Frisco.

They are printing money and that has become their number one objective. He will always have the 3 Super Bowl trophies. He is working on Legacy stuff now.

The actual football is coming in second to business.

If there was no salary cap and we weren't out spending teams you'd have a point. But because there is. You don't.

 

[Nightman]

None of this runs contrary to the fact the Cowboys never have serious money under the cap and km fact for years had to move heaven and earth to get under the cap.

What I call facts you call the company line. It's quite embarrassing.

"Thank you sir may I have another"

 

[Toruk_Makto]

"Thank you sir may I have another"

You sound like a......not smart person.