The Cap: how it has changed the league (and should change Garrett)

Baker, Goff and Ryan all highly talented 1st round picks.

It’s still not proven if Foles a 3rd round pick can sustain an entire season at the level he’s shown in limited action.

Possibly Prescott's game can be elevated by better play calling and scheme but I’d certainly like the prospects and potential much more with a more Elite talent.

This notion it was all on the OC is very agenda excuse driven IMO. Linehan has had a good track record with more Prolific passers.

What would it take to begin believing our issues are more centered around our QB’s skill sets than coaching ? I’ll hang up and listen.

Maybe they cut you off before you could hang up. :muttley:

J/K, could not resist.

This is why I really want them to wait to give Dak a huge contract, I want to see if and how he improves this year.
 
Whooooaaaaaa!!!!!

Man, did you twist that sucker around!!!!!

You are falling for the polarization of the argument. I, for one, did not say it was all on the OC. A large part of it is, however, and I only took objection to the fact when you claimed that coaching didn't matter. They both matter, and they both matter a ton.

I think you're becoming too accustomed to arguing w/ the people who can only see things one way. It's like your answer didn't even fit my post!!!!!

We've seen both good and bad from Dak. We've seen him thread the needle, and we've seen him miss badly. We've seen him stand up and throw, and we've seen him do that back foot thingie. To win in the playoffs, you don't need a prolific passer, you need a guy who can throw the ball at a decent level, a good running game, and a D.

Moore makes things interesting. I have a ton of hope in Moore simply because he's not Linehan. Linehan's numbers are more a product of a pass pass pass O, the same crapp he ran in DET. If you pass enough, you'll put up volume numbers. However, you could also see the same problems in DET. WR's not getting open. Lack of scoring. Lack of red zone proficiency.

We are hopefully fixin' to find out if Dak can get better. For some odd reason, you've bought into the stance that Dak sucks and that's the end of the argument. For some odd reason you've given him no chance under a new OC. I guess that's fine if you're OK w/ it, but there is a wild card that just sprang up, and maybe it'll make a difference and maybe it won't. Dak was raw when he came in, so I don't really understand that view that he is done as a player, but I guess we'll see, hey!!!!!
Your jumping to conclusions. Again I did NOT state it didn’t matter. That’s what you read into it.

And I’m not saying Dak suks. Yes, he makes some good throws. I don’t really want to get into the silly back and forth on those issues.

I’m just not as sold it was more about the coaching and play calling than his talent level. If anything I believe the play calling is limited as a result of his weaknesses and skill set.

I’m just not as sold Moore is the answer. And if he’s not it doesn’t mean there might be someone out there who might have the answer but it won’t be within the norms of OC in the NFL. Which brings us back to who is the bigger issue here. Dak or the coaching. I’m leaning towards Dak.

At least you acknowledge Daks weaknesses might be too much to overcome or maybe you feel his other intangible assets are enough to cope with his liabilities? IDK
 
Maybe they cut you off before you could hang up. :muttley:

J/K, could not resist.

This is why I really want them to wait to give Dak a huge contract, I want to see if and how he improves this year.
I’m hopeful the Moore Experiment works ... but what if it doesn’t ?
 
Garret's flaw is that he trust his coordinators and will not insist on changes in the playoffs. Even if Kellen brings more creativity if creativity is too much in the playoffs and Jason doesn't insist on in game changes then it will not matter.
Don’t disagree. Garrett has some strengths, but surely he recognizes creativity isn’t one of them. Good leaders (HCs) recognize their weaknesses and surround themselves with people who can help them with that. The hope is that Moore can possibly upgrade the creativity that is needed. Otherwise we will just see more of the same with predictable results.
 
Whooooaaaaaa!!!!!

Man, did you twist that sucker around!!!!!

You are falling for the polarization of the argument. I, for one, did not say it was all on the OC. A large part of it is, however, and I only took objection to the fact when you claimed that coaching didn't matter. They both matter, and they both matter a ton.

I think you're becoming too accustomed to arguing w/ the people who can only see things one way. It's like your answer didn't even fit my post!!!!!

We've seen both good and bad from Dak. We've seen him thread the needle, and we've seen him miss badly. We've seen him stand up and throw, and we've seen him do that back foot thingie. To win in the playoffs, you don't need a prolific passer, you need a guy who can throw the ball at a decent level, a good running game, and a D.

Moore makes things interesting. I have a ton of hope in Moore simply because he's not Linehan. Linehan's numbers are more a product of a pass pass pass O, the same crapp he ran in DET. If you pass enough, you'll put up volume numbers. However, you could also see the same problems in DET. WR's not getting open. Lack of scoring. Lack of red zone proficiency.

We are hopefully fixin' to find out if Dak can get better. For some odd reason, you've bought into the stance that Dak sucks and that's the end of the argument. For some odd reason you've given him no chance under a new OC. I guess that's fine if you're OK w/ it, but there is a wild card that just sprang up, and maybe it'll make a difference and maybe it won't. Dak was raw when he came in, so I don't really understand that view that he is done as a player, but I guess we'll see, hey!!!!!
I re read this. Think about what you’re saying here. “ ton of hope in Moore because he’s not Linehan”. How hyperhole is that Kevin? You’re usually not as sensational as this.

And why I’ve always look to you for sound X and O evaluation but you’re basing all of your hope on the unknown assuming it was all coaching. Very shortsighted and presumptuous IMO sir. But it would explain why my comment sparked this kind of reaction .
 
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Don’t disagree. Garrett has some strengths, but surely he recognizes creativity isn’t one of them. Good leaders (HCs) recognize their weaknesses and surround themselves with people who can help them with that. The hope is that Moore can possibly upgrade the creativity that is needed. Otherwise we will just see more of the same with predictable results.
If Moore isn’t the answer , who is that on. Jerry or Jason? I’d think if it works Jerry should get credit.

Or would we begin thinking Dak is more of the problem ? Or continue looking for greater coaching?
 
It hasn’t worked 2/3 of the time in the playoffs. Garrett’s been decent during reg season. Playoffs? Not so much.
Is it possible that our talent fares better against teams who are more equal or lesser during regular season but not as well against greater teams in the playoffs?

And is it our nature to blame our coaches for not winning in playoffs instead of holding the talent more accountable?
 
Baker, Goff and Ryan all highly talented 1st round picks.

It’s still not proven if Foles a 3rd round pick can sustain an entire season at the level he’s shown in limited action.

Possibly Prescott's game can be elevated by better play calling and scheme but I’d certainly like the prospects and potential much more with a more Elite talent.

This notion it was all on the OC is very agenda excuse driven IMO. Linehan has had a good track record with more Prolific passers.

What would it take to begin believing our issues are more centered around our QB’s skill sets than coaching ? I’ll hang up and listen.


Linehan's "successes" was less about the passers or his schemes, but having 2 of the hardest mismatches ever at WR in the NFL. Randy Moss and Calvin Johnson.
 
Linehan's "successes" was less about the passers or his schemes, but having 2 of the hardest mismatches ever at WR in the NFL. Randy Moss and Calvin Johnson.
Then talent does matter. And you didn’t believe any of those QB’s were more prolific passers than Dak?
 
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Don’t disagree. Garrett has some strengths, but surely he recognizes creativity isn’t one of them. Good leaders (HCs) recognize their weaknesses and surround themselves with people who can help them with that. The hope is that Moore can possibly upgrade the creativity that is needed. Otherwise we will just see more of the same with predictable results.
Kellen will bring creativity but sometimes creativity is not needed in every game especially in the playoffs. Jason needs to enforce his authority in those situations on both sides of the ball in those situations IMO. This can be before the game or during the game. Trust your coordinators but not to a fault as he did with Linehan and with Richard in a lesser degree in the playoffs.
 
Kellen will bring creativity but sometimes creativity is not needed in every game especially in the playoffs. Jason needs to enforce his authority in those situations on both sides of the ball in those situations IMO. This can be before the game or during the game. Trust your coordinators but not to a fault as he did with Linehan and with Richard in a lesser degree in the playoffs.
How much is our creativity limited with skill sets of our QB and or receiving Corp?

How do we know Garrett wasn’t enforcing his authority and it just wasn’t executed as well?

I’m not sure how we decipher unless we’re just assuming when we win it was enforced and when we lost it wasn’t.
 
Is it possible that our talent fares better against teams who are more equal or lesser during regular season but not as well against greater teams in the playoffs?

And is it our nature to blame our coaches for not winning in playoffs instead of holding the talent more accountable?
30 of 32 NFL Owners usually give their HC 3-5 years to show they are capable of qualifying for and winning in the playoffs. They hold the HC accountable because it’s easier to fire a HC than the whole team.

Look how the rams dramatically improved with the the firing of Jeff Fischer and hiring of Sean McVey. McVey took mostly the same talent to a super bowl in two years.

Garrett has done a pretty good job of making the playoffs 3 of last 5 years but only has two WC wins to show for it. And he’s not made the playoffs 5 of the 8 years he’s served as as HC. Jerry wants Garrett to work so badly (so he can meddle as much as he wants) that he’s been willing to give Garrett a longer time frame than almost any other owner. And I think it would take a colossal collapse for JJ to fire Garrett.
 
How much is our creativity limited with skill sets of our QB and or receiving Corp?

How do we know Garrett wasn’t enforcing his authority and it just wasn’t executed as well?

I’m not sure how we decipher unless we’re just assuming when we win it was enforced and when we lost it wasn’t.
1. Dak has excelled in the NFL despite the limitations of the OC and our WR Corp was obviously boosted by Cooper which led to Dak being the best QB in the NFC the second half of last season....hence playoff birth.

2. It was discussed last season that Jason spoke with Linehan several times about his play calling to the point that it was being considered to let Linehan go during the season. Linehan would listen to Jason in preparation of the game but during the game it was the same ol same ol.
 
It hasn’t worked 2/3 of the time in the playoffs. Garrett’s been decent during reg season. Playoffs? Not so much.
He's been better than decent in the regular season. The past three years he's been a top-3 coach in the regular season if you go by team record. Which is an improvement over his first five seasons. It only stands to reason he'll improve in the playoffs with more experience. Your criticism of his postseason record is fair, I won't argue that it isn't. My point is we've come this far, team building, QB grooming, coach grooming, etc. Let's see this through. We'll know by the end of this year or next if it's worth it or if we have to blow things up and start anew. If we're sitting in this same boat in 2021 I won't just join the Fire Garrett camp, I might lead it.
 
Today’s NFL is completely different than it was when we last won a Super Bowl in the 1995 season. Back then, the salary cap had just been instituted and it would have a profound effect on the league in several key ways:
  • How teams acquired, developed and maintained its talent changed dramatically.
  • It also leveled the playing field in talent matchups between teams. It became much harder to stockpile talent with depth like the Cowboys did back in the early 90s.
  • Because the talent gaps are smaller in today’s game, the role of creativity and scheme became much more important than just winning by brute physical advantages.
  • And finally, this led to critical importance of having a head coach and staff that can BE CREATIVE AND ADAPT TO CHANGING CIRCUMSTANCES QUICKLY- both in games and in season. Quite simply, having a creative HC has become more critical than ever before.
So, the importance of having creative and adaptive schemes on both sides of the ball have become a must if your team is to win in the regular season and to qualify for the playoffs. And, once in the playoffs, your team's ability to be creative and adaptive is even more critical.

Improving this team’s ability to be more creative and adaptive may be the biggest key to finally having a deep playoff run we haven’t seen since the salary cap was installed.

Unfortunately, despite some strengths exhibited in acquiring talent and getting his teams ready to consistently play hard, Jason Garrett runs this team like a 1965 Vince Lombardi packers team. “Here is what we do, we’re going to do it over and over, because that’s what we do, and we are going to out physical you with it”. The problem is, that theory doesn’t work so often in today’s NFL.

Jason Garrett does several things well as previously stated. But his inability to be creative and adapt is an absolute killer in the playoffs. Which is where coaching matters most.

If Garrett doesn’t correct this bad habit, he will continue to be a decent regular season coach who struggles to win in the playoffs. My hope is that the addition of Kellen Moore will add some creativity to our offensive schemes and influence some of the habits and practices of our head coach.

Surely this season is Garrett’s last chance to prove he can be that kind of coach.

The salary cap really wouldn't have affected the 1992 Super Bowl team.

https://cowboyszone.com/threads/1992-cowboys-roster-what-if-2019-cap-rules.435101/

It wouldn't really affect the 1993 team either.

The cap started in 1994 and they won the Super Bowl in 1995.

The decline after 1995 is often blamed on the cap but the biggest issue
was Jimmy being gone which caused poor drafting. Injuries were also
a big reason some players were cut or retired (Haley, Novacek, Kevin Smith, etc.).
 

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