The case for Jason Garrett as head coach

[newlander]

You know, I completely respect everyone's opinion of Jason Garrett in here. I also respect Troy Aikman's, who thinks the world of him. However, I've GOT to see a lot more positives from the guy to think he can coach up a team of yahoos like JJ has assembled right now. Next year would be make or break for him...............that's why I wouldn't be shocked if he did bolt. I said it yesterday in a couple threads, and no one agreed. But if he can, I think he'll get while the gettins good.

 

[Jimz31]

I listened to a Podcast with Norm Hitzges and he was making some good points about this offense just not being very good period....look at some of the teams where we put up alot of points....they were sad-sack teams.

I'll agree with Romo/T.O. and others on offense and say something that they won't directly say....Garrett failed them.

Now, it also goes onto the o-line, but last I heard, they were part of the offensive unit.

Fix the o-line, and I think we have a different story here.....ok....he also needs to get creative again. It was just too bland.

 

[Goldenrichards83]

Without discipline, order, respect, and hard work, none of those things are possible and it all starts with WP. It would be difficult for any coordinator to be successful under him...

Thats the thing, here was his chance to sepearte himself by running the O like a well oiled machine. He was responsible for our entite offensive scheme, it was his baby and he fell on his face when Sparano left. He had his side of the ball bickering and not communicating. Also, he has never been a OC anywhere. He was hired as a QB coach in Miami. So he really has no experience besides the time he has been here.

 

[Mansta54]

Thats the thing, here was his chance to sepearte himself by running the O like a well oiled machine. He was responsible for our entite offensive scheme, it was his baby and he fell on his face when Sparano left. He had his side of the ball bickering and not communicating. Also, he has never been a OC anywhere. He was hired as a QB coach in Miami. So he really has no experience besides the time he has been here.

You can not run a well oiled machine when there's ZERO discipline from the top. WP coaching style hinders many of our asst coaches. It starts at the top dude. Norv and Wanstadt were awesome coodinators cause JJ ran a tight discipline ship. The players feared JJ which helped all the asst coaches do there jobs with the players utmost attention at all times.. This team doesn't have that cause of WP. He isn't respected or feared by the players at all. He's their friend, not the HC and that hurts the asst coaches severely...

 

[Batman]

Laugh all you want, but if we could have Jerry Jones tied up and thrown in some dungeon somewhere, let Stephen take over and go with Garrett as Head Coach, I think Garrett would do a good job since he would not have a clueless owner messing things up along the way.

If Jason gets a HC job somewhere, I think he will do a good job.

 

[28 Joker]

I don't see an effort problem with this team. "Camp Cupcake" is a mirage. The team started out on fire. They were 3-0. If the camp made the players "weak". How did they win 13 games last year? So, I don't see an effort problem on this team. They ran into a buzz saw yesterday, and it should have never come down to that game. There wasn't an effort problem when Parcells was here. His defense got exposed by the Saints. He had some games where the game was out of reach and hope was lost and it got ugly, too.

What I saw was an offensive coordinator, who made $ 3 million dollars and had enormous power, give Marion Barber 8 carries and Felix Jones 0 in a 2 point loss to the Commanders. When the very week before, the running game was dominant, and people were saying the Cowboys were the best team in the NFL. Felix had a long TD run at GB, and the Cowboys' offensive line and Marion Barber smashed the Packers' defense with all their players still playing. In fact, I don't even think Garrett plays Felix Jones at all in Cleveland if Barber doesn't get hurt.

How does Marion Barber get 8 carries and Felix zero in that game? Garrett ran the football in the second Commanders game and beat them. He's making $ 3 million dollars to run the offense. It's his responsibility to get those running backs involved and take the pressure off Tony Romo in a blitz happy division with good secondaries. Felix Jones didn't even touch the ball on offense that day. That is not on Tony Romo. That is on Jason Garrett.

4th and inches at Pittsburgh: (a first down could be at least 3 points)

Deon Anderons gets the ball and gets stuffed. You could sneak it, or give it to Choice, who was in the backfield. The right side of the line (Davis and Columbo) had a nice push. The FB didn't have the instincts to see it, feel it, and hit it. If you are going to lose on the play, lose with the best player carrying the ball. That is Choice or Romo.

4th and 3 at Pittsburgh (again, a first down could be at least 3 points)

Romo drops back, looks down the field, no one is open, and the deep pass is incomplete. He had plenty of time, but nothing was there. This happened too many times this year. It was a crucial call, and the Cowboys play call didn't work. Dallas needed 3 yards to get Folk on the field, but the ball goes flying 30 yards down the field. Dallas had some success when they ran the ball on 4th down this year. Still, get the 4th and inches and 3 points out of one of the two critical drives, and you probably win.

These are game deciding play calls. On 4th and 3, you better at least give yourself a chance to make the first down or have a play dialed up that will get someone open. Romo had no chance on this call. You are better off running it than throwing 30 yard bombs to no player on 4th and 3. Now, Romo didn't have a great game that day, but Jason Garrett deserves his share of the blame. The Cowboys had no business throwing the ball down the field while in their own redzone that day because of the defense and the weather. A more conservative approach would have served the quarterback better. Again, is it asking too much from your offensive coordinator to not throw deep fades in bad weather or wind when your in your own redzone or near it? How about some safer calls to give yourself some more room to work with before you open it up?

Why were the Cowboys even throwing the football in the second Giants game when they were pinned back on their own goalline? The score was 14-3, and the defense had complete control of the game. Just give the punter some room and kick the ball. Romo saved the game when he knocked the ball out of bounds. Garrett didn't recall the Eagles and Arizona games. The last thing you want is the ball on the ground in the endzone in that situation.

How could Garrett have prevented it? He could have run the ball and punted if he had to do so. You can't rush the passer when you run it down there.

Plus, the Cardinals hit Romo 17 times, because the Cowboys couldn't block four guys. Yet, Garrett is standing over there just watching Romo hold the ball while looking down the field or deep. Why didn't he do something to stop the beating?
Last edited by 41gy# : 5 Minutes Ago at 07:26 PM.

 

[Haley94]

During the height of their power, the British Navy learned that the most efficient and effective crews where the ones that either the Captain or First Officer was a “pit bull” and the other was a softy that could empathize with his men, kind of a good cop bad cop thing. It really didn’t matter which one played which role, but this dynamic worked the best.

Look at the Cowboys, both Wade and Garret are low keyed, not to mention anything goes, party guy Jerry. I think last year Sporano served as the “pit bull” to Garrets mellow demeanor and Stewart kind of fills that role on defense (although i don’t think the players respect Stewart).

My point is that you can have a mellow, heady head coach if your assistant coaches are spittin vinegar. If not, you get the Cowboys of 2008.

 

[Mansta54]

During the height of their power, the British Navy learned that the most efficient and effective crews where the ones that either the Captain or First Officer was a “pit bull” and the other was a softy that could empathize with his men, kind of a good cop bad cop thing. It really didn’t matter which one played which role, but this dynamic worked the best.

Look at the Cowboys, both Wade and Garret are low keyed, not to mention anything goes, party guy Jerry. I think last year Sporano served as the “pit bull” to Garrets mellow demeanor and Stewart kind of fills that role on defense (although i don’t think the players respect Stewart).

My point is that you can have a mellow, heady head coach if your assistant coaches are spittin vinegar. If not, you get the Cowboys of 2008.

I agree with you for the most part but I want my HC to be the one spittin vinegar. I bet JG hates the way WP runs the team but his hands are virtually tied, he can't go behind the HC back or overrule him.. My best coaches ever were the ones who got in our arse and took no crap. WP style prevents any of our asst to really do their job properly...

 

[percyhoward]

I don't see an effort problem with this team. "Camp Cupcake" is a mirage. The team started out on fire. They were 3-0. If the camp made the players "weak". How did they win 13 games last year? So, I don't see an effort problem on this team. They ran into a buzz saw yesterday, and it should have never come down to that game. There wasn't an effort problem when Parcells was here. His defense got exposed by the Saints. He had some games where the game was out of reach and hope was lost and it got ugly, too.

What I saw was an offensive coordinator, who made $ 3 million dollars and had enormous power, give Marion Barber 8 carries and Felix Jones 0 in a 2 point loss to the Commanders. When the very week before, the running game was dominant, and people were saying the Cowboys were the best team in the NFL. Felix had a long TD run at GB, and the Cowboys' offensive line and Marion Barber smashed the Packers' defense with all their players still playing. In fact, I don't even think Garrett plays Felix Jones at all in Cleveland if Barber doesn't get hurt.

How does Marion Barber get 8 carries and Felix zero in that game? Garrett ran the football in the second Commanders game and beat them. He's making $ 3 million dollars to run the offense. It's his responsibility to get those running backs involved and take the pressure off Tony Romo in a blitz happy division with good secondaries. Felix Jones didn't even touch the ball on offense that day. That is not on Tony Romo. That is on Jason Garrett.

4th and inches at Pittsburgh: (a first down could be at least 3 points)

Deon Anderons gets the ball and gets stuffed. You could sneak it, or give it to Choice, who was in the backfield. The right side of the line (Davis and Columbo) had a nice push. The FB didn't have the instincts to see it, feel it, and hit it. If you are going to lose on the play, lose with the best player carrying the ball. That is Choice or Romo.

4th and 3 at Pittsburgh (again, a first down could be at least 3 points)

Romo drops back, looks down the field, no one is open, and the deep pass is incomplete. He had plenty of time, but nothing was there. This happened too many times this year. It was a crucial call, and the Cowboys play call didn't work. Dallas needed 3 yards to get Folk on the field, but the ball goes flying 30 yards down the field. Dallas had some success when they ran the ball on 4th down this year. Still, get the 4th and inches and 3 points out of one of the two critical drives, and you probably win.

These are game deciding play calls. On 4th and 3, you better at least give yourself a chance to make the first down or have a play dialed up that will get someone open. Romo had no chance on this call. You are better off running it than throwing 30 yard bombs to no player on 4th and 3. Now, Romo didn't have a great game that day, but Jason Garrett deserves his share of the blame. The Cowboys had no business throwing the ball down the field while in their own redzone that day because of the defense and the weather. A more conservative approach would have served the quarterback better. Again, is it asking too much from your offensive coordinator to not throw deep fades in bad weather or wind when your in your own redzone or near it? How about some safer calls to give yourself some more room to work with before you open it up?

Why were the Cowboys even throwing the football in the second Giants game when they were pinned back on their own goalline? The score was 14-3, and the defense had complete control of the game. Just give the punter some room and kick the ball. Romo saved the game when he knocked the ball out of bounds. Garrett didn't recall the Eagles and Arizona games. The last thing you want is the ball on the ground in the endzone in that situation.

How could Garrett have prevented it? He could have run the ball and punted if he had to do so. You can't rush the passer when you run it down there.

Plus, the Cardinals hit Romo 17 times, because the Cowboys couldn't block four guys. Yet, Garrett is standing over there just watching Romo hold the ball while looking down the field or deep. Why didn't he do something to stop the beating?

Thanks for remembering all that stuff that I'm trying to forget.

The only case for making Garrett HC is if you bring in an OC to work "under" him, while showing him how ball control works.

But that's not a head coach, it's an intern.

 

[DIAF]

I am all for giving Jason Garrett the HC job...........in anyplace other than Dallas.

This arseclown can't leave town fast enough.

 

[Kalyan]

Gotta agree with Chocolate lab. HE sucks as an Off. Coord.: WHY would he be a good HC?

Because those are 2 different functions. Jimmy was never a great OC/DC neither is parcells or any great HC. They motivate people to perform at their 100% or 110% of their talent and also hire and push the coaches to get correct the plays.

I would rather have JG and see what he can do than another year with our Michelin Man as HC and go 6-10

 

[burmafrd]

IF the choice is between keeping Wade and promoting Garret then its Garrett all the way!!!
(Lousy choice- makes Hobson's look easy- but if that is all there is....)