The Chargers have hired Doug Nussmeier as QB coach, per source

[CouchCoach]

Nussmeier and Moore were waved goodbye to without really knowing just what their orders were regarding taking Prescott to the next level so Booger could justify the contract.

Rush went 4-1, don't his QBC and OC deserve some credit?

They may be happier to be out of the circus than some fans are to see them go.

 

[Cmac]

These Dak-stans takes on Herbert are comical... They love to demonstrate how much they are Socrates of QB play with them... Dak was elevated by his coaches, so Herbert going the Dak route with Moore would mean he'd be coser to maximizing Herbert's potential which FAR EXCEEDS Dak, it's not even disputable and you would literally be put in an asylum if you claimed otherwise

Herbert literally should have been in the playoffs two years ago in his first year in the joke of an OC Lombardi's offense, but his coach made the most bizarre decision in coaching history instead of playing the lock for the tie, which they had. It was almost like the NFL told Staley to do it. Herbert basically converted I think it was 6 of 7 first downs, including multiple on 4th to tie the game and put it into overtime. It was arguably one of the greatest drives by a QB in history, the type of throws he was making.

Dak stans out here acting like these young QBs have been played and coddled for 7 years like Dak has been... 2018 Dak was settng QC franchise levels of futility in year 3 and in year 2, was a walking pick 6 like this year and was complete trash when Zeke was suspended for 6 games, while these young QBs are getting the weight of the franchise thrown on their shoulders. It was in Moore's first year that his fanboys started proclaiming it was HIS offense now and no longer Zeke's... love how that worked out..

Remember this post khiladi......there will be only two ways to go with it........."Man, Herbert is balling"......or "What happened to Herbert all of sudden?" Remember your post.

 

[Ken]

No, you said it was the FO fault and the season was over period and had zero to do with the issue of back-ups at that point. And now you are back at it, like you were when I brought it up a few weeks back, trying to weasel out of what you clearly said.

So i went back and looked at what i posted in during that week after Dak got hurt. I didn't find anything like that but I did find exactly what I just said:

https://cowboyszone.com/threads/usi...-as-an-excuse-is-so-weak.499512/post-12065478


Which was spot on considering the LG never played again, that was the worst game Smith played all year and WR2 ended up on the PS and I don't even know who was the 3...Noah Brown?

To say weapons and line weren't a problem in that game is lying. Look what they did to that defense with better in both of those areas in the Playoffs.

 

[Mr_437]

Well now I see why Nussmeier was let go, he's a Kellen guy. I'm going Herbert in my fantasy league stats galore.

 

[khiladi]

So i went back and looked at what i posted in during that week after Dak got hurt. I didn't find anything like that but I did find exactly what I just said:

https://cowboyszone.com/threads/usi...-as-an-excuse-is-so-weak.499512/post-12065478


Which was spot on considering the LG never played again, that was the worst game Smith played all year and WR2 ended up on the PS and I don't even know who was the 3...Noah Brown?

To say weapons and line weren't a problem in that game is lying. Look what they did to that defense with better in both of those areas in the Playoffs.

So because you can't find the post now that has nothing to do with the topic regarding how you said the season was over and the FO did nothing to surround Dak, which you yourself confirmed basically you said it, you are now playing ignorant?

 

[khiladi]

Remember this post khiladi......there will be only two ways to go with it........."Man, Herbert is balling"......or "What happened to Herbert all of sudden?" Remember your post.

Remember my multiple posts about Herbert? How many posts I got to remember about all the various excuses you made for Dak and how when a certain change was made Dak was going to ball out?

 

[EST_1986]

So you are blaming the OC of the team that had a 27 point lead at halftime?

Yeah I am done with this conversation. You can be critical of Dak but glorify any other QB who doesnt play for this team. Its incredible.

If that was Dak. You would be sitting here saying "he put up no points in the second half"

So just stop. Your agenda is showing. Be critical of QB play. Not when it suits an argument. But when its called for.

Theres a reason the OC got fired on the plane ride home, that dude blew that game

 

[Ken]

So because you can't find the post now that has nothing to do with the topic regarding how you said the season was over and the FO did nothing to surround Dak, which you yourself confirmed basically you said it, you are now playing ignorant?

LOL.

Find it then, I didn't say that. I showed you what I said.

You likely have me confused with someone else. I know what I say, clearly.

 

[Cmac]

Remember my multiple posts about Herbert? How many posts I got to remember about all the various excuses you made for Dak and how when a certain change was made Dak was going to ball out?

.....then we have to wait.......somebody is going to look good and somebody will look bad.

 

[charron]

If moore can get a little help designing run plays they will be tough to beat. Herbert will be fun to watch this year.

 

[buybuydandavis]

How many Garrett coaches left?

 

[CanadianCowboysFan]

Great regular season stats and playoff failure? He already does that.

Dak never blew a 27-0 lead in the playoffs

 

[noshame]

Interesting you bring that up.

What are Kellen Moore's offensive rankings without Dak at QB?

Hint. 28 to dead last.

Hint: the other guy had zero starts in the NFL.

 

[DandyDon52]

kellen wanted nuss , it is that simple.
have to wait and see how they do with chargers, and how cowboy replacements do with dak and cowboys.
it is a contest now!

 

[noshame]

BTW, Moore led the league in the second-half scoring, and was basically top 5 since he took over, while San DIego with Lombardi was basically either 28 or dead last and they were second to last in designed run plays. Dak-fans have zero clue about play calling.

The problem of second-half scoring and Lombardi SITTING ON LEADS and NOT having any ability to adjust his play calling was A YEAR LONG PROBLEM that completely manifested itself against Jacksonville. Anybody that watched the game saw it and he was called out for it. Absolutely nodoby attributed it to Herbert, because it wasn't Herbert.

100%

 

[khiladi]

LOL.

Find it then, I didn't say that. I showed you what I said.

You likely have me confused with someone else. I know what I say, clearly.

why should I go back and do a search for you, after you confirmed it already two times on using just now and a few weeks back, because you knew you said this, and and now you are tried to re-write the narrative by latching onto a post discussing the OL, that has zero to do with the actual post related to the Tampa-Dallas game?

I don’t have you confused with somebody else and you very well know what you said when Dak completely sucked against Tampa and said the season was basically over because the FO didn’t provide Dak with anything and then Rush weng 4-1 and you Dak worshippers started flip-flopping and said MOORe needs to use the same game management play calling with Dak that he is with Rush, but with Dak’s arm take advantage of it,m.

Now you Dak-Stan’s have run back around to blaming Moore for Dak’s “big arm” throwing pick 6s.

 

[khiladi]

.....then we have to wait.......somebody is going to look good and somebody will look bad.

So when are you going to admit that I was right on Dak after 7 years of denial? How many of your excuses for Dak failed to work that I said wouldn’t?

You all Dak-Stan’s are so hilarious in your ‘demands’. For SEVEN YEARS you made every excuse in the book for Dak and haven’t acted like this happened. Dak was complete GARBAGE in year 2 and and year 3 and everybody and there mother said it was Zeke’s offense, yet, you guys are sitting here acting as if he was setting the world on fire and was playing on the level of Herbert was on a team in disarray. Hell, even his rival in the playoffs after the cluster F of Urban Meyer came out in year 2, unlike Dak, and played lights out.

so are you supposed to “remember this post”, meaning the thousand excuses among many you folks made for Dak’s garbage play?

 

[USArmyVet]

So you are blaming the OC of the team that had a 27 point lead at halftime?

Yeah I am done with this conversation. You can be critical of Dak but glorify any other QB who doesnt play for this team. Its incredible.

If that was Dak. You would be sitting here saying "he put up no points in the second half"

So just stop. Your agenda is showing. Be critical of QB play. Not when it suits an argument. But when its called for.

Herbert stats 2nd half of playoff loss to Jaguars:

10 of 19 134 yards

There were 4 total Chargers offensive series that saw them pass 19 times and rush 6 times in what amounted to 2 punts, 1 FG, and 1 missed FG (which was vital given the 1-point loss)......so while Herbert didn't perform great nor poorly, the question remains why the Chargers would pass 19 times to only 6 rushes with a 20-point halftime lead.

My guess is this is why the OC was fired as that is just a dumb approach to a 2nd half.

 

[khiladi]

Herbert stats 2nd half of playoff loss to Jaguars:

10 of 19 134 yards

There were 4 total Chargers offensive series that saw them pass 19 times and rush 6 times in what amounted to 2 punts, 1 FG, and 1 missed FG (which was vital given the 1-point loss)......so while Herbert didn't perform great nor poorly, the question remains why the Chargers would pass 19 times to only 6 rushes with a 20-point halftime lead.

My guess is this is why the OC was fired as that is just a dumb approach to a 2nd half.

It was. Staley basically said in the hiring PC, Moore runs the ball and that running the ball will effectively opens up the explosive play potential of an offense. This was another criticism of Lombardi, his not attacking downfield despite having Justin Herbert’s rocket arm and 6’ 7” aerial view, but that’s neither here nor there. Facts are people complaining about Moore being bad, have no clue what they are talking about, especially with respect to the rest of the leagues offense. He’s one of the brightest young minds, which is why he got a job in a matter of seconds. Dak fanboys were yapping that he’d end up the way of Jason Garrett when he’s eventually let go, but as usual they were wrong so now they are on to a different story.

 

[Cmac]

So when are you going to admit that I was right on Dak after 7 years of denial? How many of your excuses for Dak failed to work that I said wouldn’t?

You all Dak-Stan’s are so hilarious in your ‘demands’. For SEVEN YEARS you made every excuse in the book for Dak and haven’t acted like this happened. Dak was complete GARBAGE in year 2 and and year 3 and everybody and there mother said it was Zeke’s offense, yet, you guys are sitting here acting as if he was setting the world on fire and was playing on the level of Herbert was on a team in disarray. Hell, even his rival in the playoffs after the cluster F of Urban Meyer came out in year 2, unlike Dak, and played lights out.

so are you supposed to “remember this post”, meaning the thousand excuses among many you folks made for Dak’s garbage play?

khiladi.....woosah......woosah.