The clamouring for backup QB myth?

[NEODOG]

Let's pre-face this one thing 1st:
#9 gives us the best chance to win... PERIOD

All this talk from all about finding a competent back-up QB..... Is really not the answer. The REAL equation should be finding a workhorse RB for this team.

2014 is all everyone needs to see: We were able to pretty much keep #9 gunslingers mentality in check, for the most part, due to our prolific running ability. His best year:
TD/INT ratio
Completion %
Attempts
QB rating
Etc.
Think about that..... We ran to keep #9 from throwing all over the damn place. Least we all forget his games where we were left wondering WTH? Maddening decisions, ill-advised decisions that left us thinking exactly: "WHERE DOES THIS COME FROM?" See his 5/7 td/INT this year? Points & sounds a lot like other 8-8 years to me.
Now, again, not a slam against #9.....but I know myself & more than a few(mods included) , we're screaming "throw the damn ball away" in that Packer playoff game last year. He will hold it until there's a point of no return on consequences. But, all that.... Is moot with our RUNNING game going.

We need to get our running game back, if there's any chance of a SB with #9 at QB

NOW, if there is a chance of winning without #9 at QB..... Then by all means that back-up position is vitally important

 

[DandyDon1722]

I'm not saying your premise is necessarily wrong but it feels like a passive aggressive post to me. Those stats came frome somebody - arm, pre snap read, decision making and execution. They didn't come from a running back. The throw in Seattle didn't come from a running back nor did the move on JJ Watt. In fact I don't remember that many throws that were maddening last year or at least any more than any of the other really good QB's. He was efficient and effective - more so than Rodgers and no QB in the history of the game that led in those categories has ever not won the MVP. I'm not sure what was so awful - maybe the mods can remind us.

Is he better with a running game? Absolutey. Draft a running back in the first round? I'm not so sure.

As far as this year four of those picks came after he tried to come back where he admitted he wasn't right and not seeing the field so that's an over reaction.

Running game combined with a better scheme will have us back in the mix next year because #9 (that's Tony Romo) will make everybody better.

 

[jazzcat22]

Still need a good backup QB no matter what.
Yes we need a stud RB too. I agree there 100% as to get the running game going again.

As I been saying, my preference as of now, 1st 2 rounds, QB / RB or RB / QB...then CB / S / LB / DT / WR nest 3 picks in any order. But those 3 picks dependent upon who is signed as FA's too.

 

[texbumthelife]

Remember 2013, when Murray was here? How'd that work out for Romo? How about 2014?

The running game is not the problem. The play calling and scheme are. The Cowboys rank 11th in rushing, without anything resembling good quarterback play. With Romo out there, we are easily top five.

Blaming Romo's injury on who is playing the runningback position is as egregious an argument as can be made.

Really grasping at straws.

Using last season as a rule for any argument is futile. Last season was the exception in just about every way. The running game. The record. All of it. This team is the same team from those 8-8 seasons.

 

[IrishAnto]

Let's pre-face this one thing 1st:
#9 gives us the best chance to win... PERIOD

All this talk from all about finding a competent back-up QB..... Is really not the answer. The REAL equation should be finding a workhorse RB for this team.

2014 is all everyone needs to see: We were able to pretty much keep #9 gunslingers mentality in check, for the most part, due to our prolific running ability. His best year:
TD/INT ratio
Completion %
Attempts
QB rating
Etc.
Think about that..... We ran to keep #9 from throwing all over the damn place. Least we all forget his games where we were left wondering WTH? Maddening decisions, ill-advised decisions that left us thinking exactly: "WHERE DOES THIS COME FROM?" See his 5/7 td/INT this year? Points & sounds a lot like other 8-8 years to me.
Now, again, not a slam against #9.....but I know myself & more than a few(mods included) , we're screaming "throw the damn ball away" in that Packer playoff game last year. He will hold it until there's a point of no return on consequences. But, all that.... Is moot with our RUNNING game going.

We need to get our running game back, if there's any chance of a SB with #9 at QB

NOW, if there is a chance of winning without #9 at QB..... Then by all means that back-up position is vitally important

I don't want a backup. I want us to draft Romo's replacement and have him learn behind Romo until he's ready or Romo has to quit whichever is sooner.

 

[RS12]

Myopic to think Romo makes it through future seasons by playing in all or most games.

 

[robjay04]

Think about that..... We ran to keep #9 from throwing all over the damn place. Least we all forget his games where we were left wondering WTH? Maddening decisions, ill-advised decisions that left us thinking exactly: "WHERE DOES THIS COME FROM?" See his 5/7 td/INT this year? Points & sounds a lot like other 8-8 years to me.
Now, again, not a slam against #9.....but I know myself & more than a few(mods included) , we're screaming "throw the damn ball away" in that Packer playoff game last year. He will hold it until there's a point of no return on consequences. But, all that.... Is moot with our RUNNING game going.

We need to get our running game back, if there's any chance of a SB with #9 at QB

NOW, if there is a chance of winning without #9 at QB..... Then by all means that back-up position is vitally important

First of all...looking at his TD/INT ratio is pretty bad considering the small amount of games he has played. First two games, he was solid...I remember an interception or two coming from a tip if I recall correctly. He was rusty against the Dolphins and he was awful against the Panthers.

Personally, I think our running game has been pretty good all things considered. Yes Romo needs a running game to be at his best BUT....we also need a decent passing attack for our running game to be at their best. It goes both ways.

 

[jazzcat22]

First of all...looking at his TD/INT ratio is pretty bad considering the small amount of games he has played. First two games, he was solid...I remember an interception or two coming from a tip if I recall correctly. He was rusty against the Dolphins and he was awful against the Panthers.

Personally, I think our running game has been pretty good all things considered. Yes Romo needs a running game to be at his best BUT....we also need a decent passing attack for our running game to be at their best. It goes both ways.

True.
It's like on defense, what units makes the other ones better. A great pass rush helps the secondary, or a great secondary helps the pass rush.
But in the case this year, we haven't had the sacks or the interceptions. So which unit is bringing down the other.

 

[robjay04]

True.
It's like on defense, what units makes the other ones better. A great pass rush helps the secondary, or a great secondary helps the pass rush.
But in the case this year, we haven't had the sacks or the interceptions. So which unit is bringing down the other.

I feel like I am alone but I like our defense, I feel they would be so much better if they had an offense to help them out that resembled a NFL offense. The pass rush has been improving---the turnovers would come if opposing offenses had to take more risks. Opposing offenses could kneel down and beat us with the way our offense has been. We held the Packers to 14 points for the majority of the game but the game did not even feel competitive.

 

[DeaconMoss]

Still need a good backup QB no matter what.
Yes we need a stud RB too. I agree there 100% as to get the running game going again.

As I been saying, my preference as of now, 1st 2 rounds, QB / RB or RB / QB...then CB / S / LB / DT / WR nest 3 picks in any order. But those 3 picks dependent upon who is signed as FA's too.

Keep this losing streak going and run to the podium for Jalen Ramsey

 

[jazzcat22]

I feel like I am alone but I like our defense, I feel they would be so much better if they had an offense to help them out that resembled a NFL offense. The pass rush has been improving---the turnovers would come if opposing offenses had to take more risks. Opposing offenses could kneel down and beat us with the way our offense has been. We held the Packers to 14 points for the majority of the game but the game did not even feel competitive.

I agree, defense is not all that bad, and an offense would have been better for them.
I think if they can resign Hardy and McClain, and even Mo. Then they can focus on SS, as Jones would FS, get a real DT to replace Hayden. and then depth at LB.

 

[jazzcat22]

Keep this losing streak going and run to the podium for Jalen Ramsey

I would have no issues with Ramsey.

 

[NEODOG]

I'm not saying your premise is necessarily wrong but it feels like a passive aggressive post to me. Those stats came frome somebody - arm, pre snap read, decision making and execution. They didn't come from a running back. The throw in Seattle didn't come from a running back nor did the move on JJ Watt. In fact I don't remember that many throws that were maddening last year or at least any more than any of the other really good QB's. He was efficient and effective - more so than Rodgers and no QB in the history of the game that led in those categories has ever not won the MVP. I'm not sure what was so awful - maybe the mods can remind us.

Is he better with a running game? Absolutey. Draft a running back in the first round? I'm not so sure.

As far as this year four of those picks came after he tried to come back where he admitted he wasn't right and not seeing the field so that's an over reaction.

Running game combined with a better scheme will have us back in the mix next year because #9 (that's Tony Romo) will make everybody better.

Last season had WAY fewer maddening decisions than those before..... Again the point- We ran, threw less= opportunities for said decisions.
Relying on the run helped all points the have been replied here:
Defense
Play calling
#9 abilities himself
Scheme

It all tied to the prolific running game

 

[NEODOG]

Remember 2013, when Murray was here? How'd that work out for Romo? How about 2014?

The running game is not the problem. The play calling and scheme are. The Cowboys rank 11th in rushing, without anything resembling good quarterback play. With Romo out there, we are easily top five.

Blaming Romo's injury on who is playing the runningback position is as egregious an argument as can be made.

Really grasping at straws.

Using last season as a rule for any argument is futile. Last season was the exception in just about every way. The running game. The record. All of it. This team is the same team from those 8-8 seasons.

How the hell do I state blaming injury on running game?

 

[percyhoward]

The running game is not the problem. The play calling and scheme are. The Cowboys rank 11th in rushing, without anything resembling good quarterback play. With Romo out there, we are easily top five.

To illustrate your point, here are the rushing leaders since McFadden became our featured back in week 7:
1 Martin TB 900 (90.5)
2 Peterson Min 819 (86.9)
3 Gurley StL 709 (70.9)
4 Stewart Car 691 (104.9)
5 McFadden Dal 669 (68.7)

The number in parentheses is the team's passer rating since week 7.

 

[big dog cowboy]

Remember 2013, when Murray was here? How'd that work out for Romo? How about 2014?

The running game is not the problem. The play calling and scheme are. The Cowboys rank 11th in rushing, without anything resembling good quarterback play. With Romo out there, we are easily top five.

Blaming Romo's injury on who is playing the runningback position is as egregious an argument as can be made.

Really grasping at straws.

Using last season as a rule for any argument is futile. Last season was the exception in just about every way. The running game. The record. All of it. This team is the same team from those 8-8 seasons.

 

[Mr Cowboy]

I feel like I am alone but I like our defense, I feel they would be so much better if they had an offense to help them out that resembled a NFL offense. The pass rush has been improving---the turnovers would come if opposing offenses had to take more risks. Opposing offenses could kneel down and beat us with the way our offense has been. We held the Packers to 14 points for the majority of the game but the game did not even feel competitive.

the defense don't need the offense, they can help themselves by holding the opposing teams to 3 and outs and getting off the field.

 

[JoeBoBBY]

Remember 2013, when Murray was here? How'd that work out for Romo? How about 2014?

The running game is not the problem. The play calling and scheme are. The Cowboys rank 11th in rushing, without anything resembling good quarterback play. With Romo out there, we are easily top five.

Blaming Romo's injury on who is playing the runningback position is as egregious an argument as can be made.

Really grasping at straws.

Using last season as a rule for any argument is futile. Last season was the exception in just about every way. The running game. The record. All of it. This team is the same team from those 8-8 seasons.

Although, I think, the fact that we went with Joe freaking Randle and DMC, which I think was a reckless and irresposible thing to do, and the fact I think we were going back to putting "more" on Romo because of it.....

I agree. 100%. This team is the same team from those 8-8 seasons. And that has been the most disappointing thing this year. I thought we had a fundamental change last year. That if Romo went down, we could carry on as a franchise and find a way to keep up. Thats what good franchises do. But its more then just that.,.....Its an attitude, a toughness, i am not atriculating it very well......but, I see those pitiful 8-8 teams written all over this team. And I am a little surprised. And disappointed.

 

[JoeBoBBY]

If I am playing the "what ifs" and then analyzing the "what ifs"...then

If Dez and Romo dont get hurt. We are excited about winning the East. Looking forward to the playoffs...

But I think a lot of us would have that feeling as if....................."we cant beat Car,AZ, Seattle....." Maybe not even the Packers or Vikings...

Last year, at the end of the season, I didnt think there was a team in the league that we couldnt beat, and probably would beat.

 

[dallasdave]

If I am playing the "what ifs" and then analyzing the "what ifs"...then

If Dez and Romo dont get hurt. We are excited about winning the East. Looking forward to the playoffs...

But I think a lot of us would have that feeling as if....................."we cant beat Car,AZ, Seattle....." Maybe not even the Packers or Vikings...

Last year, at the end of the season, I didnt think there was a team in the league that we couldnt beat, and probably would beat.

Well said indeed !!!!!