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I think Frazier and Garrett keep the jobs.
 
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Ellis: Garrett Still The Best, Most Likely Choice For Coach

Josh Ellis, Cowboys.com Staff Writer

IRVING, Texas - Everybody, everybody, calm down. We all know what Jerry Jones said on the NFL Network pregame show the other day.

Yeah, the part about being a big believer in challenges and how he knows no coach who has won a Super Bowl has repeated with a different team. It sure seems to have gotten a lot of you guys all worked up about Bill Cowher and Jon Gruden once again.

These are waterfalls Jones shouldn't, and won't, be chasing this time.
He's done that before, remember, with Bill Parcells, and the challenge wasn't met. The team did come out ahead of where it was when Big Bill got here, but that was a rebuilding process, and there was no one in the game better at starting from scratch than Parcells. Did Gruden start from scratch to win his Super Bowl? No, he did it with Tony Dungy's team. Did Cowher? No, it took him 14 years in Pittsburgh.

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See, the most well-prepared, best-suited guy for the job is already here. He already has his stuff in Landry's office. It makes the most sense to keep him.

So when Jones says things like he's interested in the challenge of doing something that's never been done before, like setting a Super Bowl-winning coach up to win another in Dallas, consider that he might just be trying to generate headlines for a team few are willing to talk about right now.

He won't want to upstage this Super Bowl, played in his stadium, so he might as well make waves through the media now, because a big splash shouldn't be in store.

http://www.dallascowboys.com/news/editorial.cfm?id=2A76E86D-FE98-99B4-D5A35FAB35F00C5E
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MegaMagick;3766497 said:
If Jeff Fisher is fired...

I want him.

He wouldnt be my first choice, and I wouldnt take him over Garrett.

He's never won consistently. And I think he's done an awful job this year.
 
dbair1967;3766501 said:
He wouldnt be my first choice, and I wouldnt take him over Garrett.

He's never won consistently. And I think he's done an awful job this year.

Fisher has been to a sb, garrett is 4-4, if we can get fisher, how do you not make the move?
 
And the pool for coordinators...it's like Christmas has come!

John Fox
Marvin Lewis, Mike Zimmer
Tony Sparano, Mike Nolan
Eric Mangini, Rob Ryan
Jeff Fisher, Chuck Cecil
Gary Kubiak
Dave Wannstedt
 
Wait a second, Garrett's better than Fisher now? I love Garrett and i would have no problem with him being next year but he's not in the same league as Fisher.
 
MegaMagick;3766508 said:
Wait a second, Garrett's better than Fisher now? I love Garrett and i would have no problem with him being next year but he's not in the same league as Fisher.


and neither has won a SB, so? how many years have Fisher had to do so?
 
ShiningStar;3766513 said:
and neither has won a SB, so? how many years have Fisher had to do so?

Fisher has been one of the best coaches in the league for years now, the guy does more with less, he hasn't had a qb in years. Garrett has done a nice job, but stop treating the guy like he is bill walsh.
 
what we need is a tally on axed assistants starting next monday.

IMO, whether we keep garrett, hire harbaugh, holmgren or dig up jack riley....the key is in the assistants. The head guy will be busy dealing with the nonsense of the day jerry is pushing, or the media is creating.

Meanwhile the assistants will be the ones who will be in the players ears 24/7 getting them the vital tools they need to succeed.

I am extremely interested to see how this offseason unfolds for us and many other teams with as many openings as it seems and the names.

Last year I joked that if jerry could get holmgren he should kick tires on his old assitants so holmgren wouldnt have to teach the coaching staff and the players all at once like parcells had to here. No one ever talks about that but it was important and also one of the reasons bill wore down quickly.

Having guys you trust with you would be an enormous plus and guys who would make good qb coaches like mariucci, good defensive assistants like jauron are doing nothing essentially. Holmgren with some old staff members to help and a top 10 draft pick in each round essentially would be a plus plus.

I am very excited to see who garrett wants on his staff if he stays also.

so anyway long story short, I think a tally of available assistants would be cool.
 
When I hear the term coaching carousel, I tend to think of the frequent turnover at head coach the Cowboys have experienced over the past decade. Perhaps the best reason for hiring Garrett is that he, out of all other candidates, is most likely to stop that carousel. He's the only one capable of holding the job for a decade.
 
cowboyfan4life2;3766504 said:
Fisher has been to a sb, garrett is 4-4, if we can get fisher, how do you not make the move?

Fisher's a .500 HC and he lost that SB.
 
cowboyfan4life2;3766504 said:
Fisher has been to a sb, garrett is 4-4, if we can get fisher, how do you not make the move?

Fisher got to a super bowl 11 years ago. I dont think he's been close since, and he's never got to the super bowl when he had HFA, which has happened 3 or 4 times.

I like him, but I think people are overrating him quite a bit. When you've only had 6 playoff seasons in 17 yrs, thats not all that good. Niether are his teams when you look at them annually from a total offense/total defense/scoring offense/scoring defense perspective.
 
I think the defense has to be fixed. I kindof want Bill Cowher. I think he is the type of guy that would stand up to Jones and his massive ego. I want a team that feels it needs to prove itself. No position is safe. Old vets don&#8217;t automatically claim their starting positions. I think a new hard-nose coach will bring the best out of the players.
 
hammer1;3766521 said:
Fisher's a .500 HC and he lost that SB.

He is 26 games over 500, and yes he lost that sb, but he held one of the greatest offenses in check for most of the game, they came a yard away from sending that game to ot.
 
cowboyfan4life2;3766517 said:
Fisher has been one of the best coaches in the league for years now

Because the media says so? Results don't lie. He has had plenty of talent on both sides of the ball and, as someone else said, has never been consistent. With that all said, no way he gets fired.
 
dbair1967;3766522 said:
Fisher got to a super bowl 11 years ago. I dont think he's been close since, and he's never got to the super bowl when he had HFA, which has happened 3 or 4 times.

I like him, but I think people are overrating him quite a bit. When you've only had 6 playoff seasons in 17 yrs, thats not all that good. Niether are his teams when you look at them annually from a total offense/total defense/scoring offense/scoring defense perspective.

No one said he was vince lombardi, but hes been a very solid head coach. He hasn't exactly been coaching the most talent in the league the past few years, and has still managed to win some games.
 
cowboyfan4life2;3766504 said:
Fisher has been to a sb, garrett is 4-4, if we can get fisher, how do you not make the move?
I wouldn't. I think Garrett has more upside long term.
 

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