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Maybe it's just been so long since we've seen a well run organization that we are skeptical? Never mind what happens in the season, the moves that we have made this offseason have been good logical moves IMO. You do what you can to improve the foundation and then you play the games and see what happens. Every team gets good and bad breaks that decide success. The teams that actually do win the Super Bowl usually have a good amount of luck to go with good play IMO. I am very optimistic about the future of this franchise. I like the direction we are taking and that is really the more important thing to me at this point.
 

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I'd agree that there are several valid reasons to keep unbridled optimism at arm's length at this particular juncture. Without a doubt, the thing that concerns me the most is our dependence upon players with injury histories.

To illucidate, on offense, two out of our four RBs (McFadden and Williams) fall well within that injury-prone category, with nobody who would be considered solidly established to replace them as yet. Hopefully, Romo's back will be able to withstand the season-long test that lies ahead. Obviously, his loss would likely be devastating.

On defense, Mo Claiborne, Chaz Green, Doug Free, Terrell McClain, Ro McClain are others surely worth mentioning as being familiar to injury as well. Fortunately, some of these defensive players have reasonably capable backups available to replace them if and when the need arises. Still, in perhaps a couple of these cases, questions linger as to possible dropoffs in performance.

Certainly, as jday has taken the trouble to caution, nothing is guaranteed. Nevertheless, let's also be careful to mention that there's plenty of room for optimism as well. This offseason has surely been unusually kind to the Cowboys organization. With good fortune as a partner, let's just say our chances of enjoying an exceptional season in 2015 appear just about as encouraging as any realistic fan might reasonably expect.

Excellent response.

Let me clarify something - I could not be happier about the current state of the Cowboys. I absolutely love what Garrett has done with this team. My honest expectations for this team are higher than they have been since the 90's. For that reason, it is a struggle to remain cautiously optimistic, which is why I went the direction I did with the OP.
 

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@jday

This team's attitude and make-up is light years away from that 2009-2010 team and the 2007-2008 team that disappointed following successful seasons.

Both of those other teams were much older and they just didn't feel very substantial to me. Speaking for myself, I didn't have much confidence in those teams. The coaching was mediocre at best, the rosters didn't really reflect a talented team (IMO), and frankly, it just felt a little like they had caught lightning in a bottle in 2007 and 2009.

The 2007 team got weaker and weaker as they moved further and further away from Bill Parcells influence. By the end of the season, they just weren't that good. With the way that year ended, I had big time concerns about the team going into 2008. I hoped... but deep down, I knew they were going to crap their pants.

The 2009 defense got hot to end the season and played well against Philly in the playoffs, but that team felt nothing like this one does. Wade Phillips has always been a great defensive coordinator and a below average head coach. It was easy to see he was responsible for the defensive showing that season, but it was also easy to see the discipline and intensity of the team continuing to erode. I had big time worries about that team going into 2010. Just the sense of entitlement from that group made me dread what was coming. Just because they finally won a playoff game, that entire team (including Wade Phillips) acted like they had reached the pinnacle of the sport. They thought they had arrived.

Those teams never had much direction and really had no identity. The franchise still felt a little rudderless.

This team feels completely different to me and nothing about last year felt like a fluke occurrence. They just flat beat teams up last year. They were consistently the most physical team on the field, and as the year went along they got stronger and stronger. The coaching is really good, the players are focused and nobody is taking anything for granted. The depth is so much better that I could write a whole paper on just that alone. The youth of this team and the strength in areas that I feel are critical to success give me a feeling like I haven't had since the mid 90's.

This team feels legit to me, for the first time since the 90's. Instead of resting on their laurels like the 2008 and 2010 teams, they have gone out and improved on the weak spots from last year. Improved them big-time. Real improvements and not band aid type of pick ups.

Which leads me to the biggest reason that this team feels different: It has an identity... a direction, and their drafts have been stellar. You can tell the team knows what it is doing in acquiring talent and they're not screwing up the cap left and right. I would put the Cowboys drafts since 2010 up against any team in the league, and I'd come out ahead. They have been better than good. They've been stellar. Their free agent pick ups have been smart and useful for the first time since free agency started.

I have confidence in this team that I last had when Jimmy Johnson roamed the sidelines. They will play well. They will play smart. They will be disciplined. They will take it one game at a time and won't be full of themselves. They will be the most physical team on the field, and they will never, ever quit.

This I know. I'm not sure what their record will be or if they'll go all the way or not... but these things I know. And it gives me a confidence that I thought was long lost.

I hope you're right. It's been a long time since the Cowboys displayed their will on other teams.
 

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Maybe it's just been so long since we've seen a well run organization that we are skeptical? Never mind what happens in the season, the moves that we have made this offseason have been good logical moves IMO. You do what you can to improve the foundation and then you play the games and see what happens. Every team gets good and bad breaks that decide success. The teams that actually do win the Super Bowl usually have a good amount of luck to go with good play IMO. I am very optimistic about the future of this franchise. I like the direction we are taking and that is really the more important thing to me at this point.

Some of us are just so snake bitten. We've had our hearts broken time and time again over the last few years. Last year was the first time since the 90's that I actually felt okay even with the playoff loss. I'm just worried about the running game. If these backs can get the job done then I do think we can beat anyone. I just have to see it first.
 

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@jday

This team's attitude and make-up is light years away from that 2009-2010 team and the 2007-2008 team that disappointed following successful seasons.

Both of those other teams were much older and they just didn't feel very substantial to me. Speaking for myself, I didn't have much confidence in those teams. The coaching was mediocre at best, the rosters didn't really reflect a talented team (IMO), and frankly, it just felt a little like they had caught lightning in a bottle in 2007 and 2009.

The 2007 team got weaker and weaker as they moved further and further away from Bill Parcells influence. By the end of the season, they just weren't that good. With the way that year ended, I had big time concerns about the team going into 2008. I hoped... but deep down, I knew they were going to crap their pants.

The 2009 defense got hot to end the season and played well against Philly in the playoffs, but that team felt nothing like this one does. Wade Phillips has always been a great defensive coordinator and a below average head coach. It was easy to see he was responsible for the defensive showing that season, but it was also easy to see the discipline and intensity of the team continuing to erode. I had big time worries about that team going into 2010. Just the sense of entitlement from that group made me dread what was coming. Just because they finally won a playoff game, that entire team (including Wade Phillips) acted like they had reached the pinnacle of the sport. They thought they had arrived.

Those teams never had much direction and really had no identity. The franchise still felt a little rudderless.

This team feels completely different to me and nothing about last year felt like a fluke occurrence. They just flat beat teams up last year. They were consistently the most physical team on the field, and as the year went along they got stronger and stronger. The coaching is really good, the players are focused and nobody is taking anything for granted. The depth is so much better that I could write a whole paper on just that alone. The youth of this team and the strength in areas that I feel are critical to success give me a feeling like I haven't had since the mid 90's.

This team feels legit to me, for the first time since the 90's. Instead of resting on their laurels like the 2008 and 2010 teams, they have gone out and improved on the weak spots from last year. Improved them big-time. Real improvements and not band aid type of pick ups.

Which leads me to the biggest reason that this team feels different: It has an identity... a direction, and their drafts have been stellar. You can tell the team knows what it is doing in acquiring talent and they're not screwing up the cap left and right. I would put the Cowboys drafts since 2010 up against any team in the league, and I'd come out ahead. They have been better than good. They've been stellar. Their free agent pick ups have been smart and useful for the first time since free agency started.

I have confidence in this team that I last had when Jimmy Johnson roamed the sidelines. They will play well. They will play smart. They will be disciplined. They will take it one game at a time and won't be full of themselves. They will be the most physical team on the field, and they will never, ever quit.

This I know. I'm not sure what their record will be or if they'll go all the way or not... but these things I know. And it gives me a confidence that I thought was long lost.

As always, awesome response Asthma. Your right, there is no question about the make up of the team under Garrett versus Wade. Say what you want about all the terrible things that could possibly happen, this team quitting is probably the furthest from being believable. I absolutely can't wait for football to start.
 

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I really like your post. It gift me time to pause and reflect. Yes, things seem to be going our way. But like the two guys out on the prairie who heed the silence, one say to the other, he say: "It's quiet out there." And the other one say, he say: "Yep too quiet." Then off course that is when the Amish-Americans attack and plunder.

So the thing right now I dread as training camp approaches is injury. Listen, it is a long season. I would not fault the 'boys and the trainers for wanting to go slow and build intensity. Go slow and limber up from the long layoff. Protect the hammys and muscles from over extension. Don't play like the playoffs are on. Walk, don't run the plays, a lot.
Rome was not built in a day, it was built in a month and the cowboys owe it to us, to me, to go slow and protect theyselves from injury this early.
So now talking so much about injury i am paranoid that I might be jinxing them so I will stop.
I will think about your post. I appreciate a cowboy fan taking the time to be thorow and ruminate and reflect like mirrors about our state of affairs. Speaking of affairs, that is one more thing that concern me: you young Cowboys stay away from women who are not your girlfriends or wives or stockbrokers. Be careful out there in all you do.

OK, carry on. Again, Jday, thanks for taking the time. You too can eat free anytime in Farmers Branch, home of the brave and open to any industry be it pollution-intensive or not heck we don't care.

I am honored, sir.
 

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Don’t get me wrong, I’m not trying to shift the overall mood of the board back to the doom-and-gloom days of just a year ago (couldn’t if I was trying, right?), but this Cowboys team always seems to do better when the expectations are low. When expectations are high, the Cowboys of the last decade have notoriously failed to come even close to meeting them. It seems to never fail.

That's definitely been the case the past decade. Expectations were sky high entering the 2008 season with everyone figuring the team would be hungry to avenge the disappointment of the 2007 season. All the positive talk entering that season went down the drain in Dec and the season ended with a 44-6 debacle in Philly that left the Cowboys sitting home. After such miserable end to that season expectations were low entering the 09 season and the Cowboys surprised with their first playoff win in 13 years. Even with the blowout loss to Minn the following week the expectations were through the roof entering the 2010 season with the SB coming to Dallas. Many were picking the Cowboys to be the first team to play a SB in their own stadium. The teams confidence was so high even Wade was laughing talking SB. The team got all fat and happy reading their press clippings and the season turned into a disaster that led to 3 straight 8-8 seasons.

Entering the 2014 season spirits were down after a 3rd straight season finale elimination game loss followed by a miserable offseason that saw 2 of the Cowboys best defensive players leave for free agency and their best defensive player lost for the season in his first mini camp practice. Prospects for the upcoming season looked so bad that many in the National media were picking the Cowboys to be one of the worst teams in the league if not the worst. All the doom and gloom predictions even got to the ultimate FAN Jerry who was conceding the team was facing an uphill battle. Never seen the FAN base as down as they were entering the 2014 season and it turned into one of the most surprising seasons in franchise history. Now after last seasons success expectations are high once again and the FAN base is back making their annual SB predictions. :oops: That usually spells trouble we'll have to wait and see if the Cowboys can buck this trend.
 

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Excellent response.

Let me clarify something - I could not be happier about the current state of the Cowboys. I absolutely love what Garrett has done with this team. My honest expectations for this team are higher than they have been since the 90's. For that reason, it is a struggle to remain cautiously optimistic, which is why I went the direction I did with the OP.

Understood and it's assuredly not difficult for me to agree. What you've said mirrors my outlook to no small measure. I'm making it a special point not to let my enthusiasm for the offseason tarnish my perpspective of reality. There's certainly nothing wrong with being cautiously optimistic. It's a terrific preventative of bitter letdowns in the event lady luck fails to live up to some over-inflated expectations we might prefer.
 

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Understood and it's assuredly not difficult for me to agree. What you've said mirrors my outlook to no small measure. I'm making it a special point not to let my enthusiasm for the offseason tarnish my perpspective of reality. There's certainly nothing wrong with being cautiously optimistic. It's a terrific preventative of bitter letdowns in the event lady luck fails to live up to some over-inflated expectations we might prefer.

Well said.
 

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Lots of young players that shouldn't be fed "too much cheese" (as Parcels would say it)
 

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Nice post...but nobody knows. But, what ever happens, I'm willing to bet, win or lose, this coming team will never quit or give up.

And that's all that we can ask from them - play hard to the final whistle.
 

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Lots of young players that shouldn't be fed "too much cheese" (as Parcels would say it)

Bill Parcells is a relic of the past and should never be invoked on this site to describe anything. His era, and his tenure as coach is ancient history. 10 years ago.
 

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Saddled with the patriotic responsibility of monitoring a slow-dripping inbound telemarketing sales line, I have some spare time on my hands. With the recent signing of Dez and the reduction of time from Hardy’s suspension, the Cowboys seem to have everything going their way. Am I the only one who finds that to be disconcerting?

Don’t get me wrong, I’m not trying to shift the overall mood of the board back to the doom-and-gloom days of just a year ago (couldn’t if I was trying, right?), but this Cowboys team always seems to do better when the expectations are low. When expectations are high, the Cowboys of the last decade have notoriously failed to come even close to meeting them. It seems to never fail.

With that in mind, and boredom as my motivation, I thought it would be a good idea to dig up some reasons why the nation’s high expectations for the Cowboys this year may be ill-founded.

My first stop should be obvious; no more Demarco Murray. I agree with the sentiment that he left yards on the field. I agree Philly paid him too much money. I agree that Randy Gregory was a steal where the Cowboys were able to get him in the 2nd round and given their apparent need for a pass-rush the Cowboys would have been foolish to pass him up. And, finally, I agree that by the 3rd round all of the difference making running backs who would be considered an upgrade over what the Cowboys already have had been taken.

What I don’t agree with is the idea that a combination of JoRan, DeMac, Dunbar, and/or Williams somehow replaces what Demarco Murray produced. Granted, he wasn’t the fastest guy…what burst he had was over quickly and often led to him being dragged down from behind….often times by guys that had no business running down an NFL runningback…but I digress. What Demarco Murray did do made a whole lot of difference to this entire football team.

Demarco straight up punished defenses. He set a tone. When the Cowboys needed that 1 yard, Demarco got it. And it made all the difference in the world to all three phases of the football game to the Cowboys. Demarco may never be the same guy he was in 2014, but nevertheless, that guy very well could be severely missed in 2015.

Injuries. Need I say more? Probably not, but again I’m bored so here goes.

I’m not sure exactly when it started, but it seems for the Cowboys of the last half-decade, injuries to starters has notoriously topped the list of excuses for perennial contention failure. Admittedly, part of this has been due to the Cowboys front office gambling on talented players with spotty injury history, Sean Lee and Demarco Murray being prime examples. With that said, I am sure I will not be alone in the act of holding my breath as the injury list comes out each day from training camp to the end of the season, wherever that may be.

Some may say that injuries will not be as much of an issue as it has been in previous years because the Cowboys have improved depth.

Oh really?

If so, name the starter you would be comfortable with being replaced and by whom?

Sure, La’el Collins looks to be a great get for the Cowboys, all things considered, but as a rookie there is no guarantee he is the second coming of Zach Martin. The same could be said of Randall Gregory and Byron Jones. Again, they look to be solid players, but looks can be deceiving as many of us learned from the acquisition of Morris Claiborne. So I understand many of you wouldn’t mind seeing the Cowboys field their shiny new toys in lieu of starters like Mincey, Carr, and Free/Leary, conventional wisdom tells us at the moment the Cowboys have almost as many question marks in their depth as they did last year, though I’m sure they feel considerably better about it just the same.

Regression. Coming into last year, there were absolutely no laurels to rest on for anyone. The nation and fans-alike had already written the Cowboys off as 8 and 8 or less and many were leaning towards a year of epic failure.

At the time, I contributed a thread of a different sort sighting the Cowboys had question marks, but it wasn’t hopeless. My intent, is somewhat the same with this contribution, only now I am asking Cowboy nation to put the glass of blue and silver koolaid down for a second and not allow their hopes to get too high… especially before the season has even began. Many of the same questions from last year still haunt the Cowboys.

But the one new one that could sneak up on us is players not working like they did entering 2014. In 2014 their mission was simple. Prove the football-watching nation wrong! Now, unlike last year, they are proven. They will not sneak up on any team. And every team the Cowboys face this year will likely have that date circled.

The question is, did all 53 players that eventually make this team continue to work like everyone still didn’t believe? Because if they didn’t, we may see regression. We may see players report to camp overweight. A few players got shiny new contracts; will they continue to work and perform like they are still chasing the money? A few players got older; can they maintain at a pro level?

Regression in some form or another happens to ever team every year, be it due to aging, sophomore slumps, contractual contentment, pure laziness or other. It is one of the secret ingredients to the parity of this game. But the Cowboys have a history of regressing in particular following great years. Having gone 12 and 4 last year, the Cowboys could be due for another dose of relapse.

Schematic Effectiveness or lack thereof. Last year, Jason Garrett’s vision for how this offense should and could work was fulfilled. What he has preached from the moment he took the Head Coach whistle took shape and the Cowboys in many games embarrassed the opposition….dominated them even.

How the Cowboys performed last year, made many organizations sit up and take notice. Some of these teams will make the attempt to copy what the Cowboys did. Other more established organization will probably stay true to their scheme, however, they will be looking to implement slight changes in an attempt to thwart the Cowboys attack…and, it should be noted, some will succeed in doing just that. It is the reality, nature and beauty of football; no one scheme is perfect and unbeatable. Every approach has its pros and cons.

So while on paper, the Cowboys roster looks set to improve on the execution of last year’s scheme, dependent on how other teams respond to last year tape could mean a step in the wrong direction for this year’s iteration of the Cowboys.

While I am sure there are new and creative ways the Cowboys could find to epically fail, I’m pretty sure the most likely culprits of 2015 have been covered in the previous. Again, this is not intended to depress anyone…just trying to keep the board grounded in their expectations…that and as I mentioned repeatedly before, I’m bored…

Get back to work! :laugh:

J/K

Nice detailed post of the impending apocalypse!

But you are right. I agree whole-heartedly that most years I've been stoked about this team, they've been a disappointment and visa versa. But here's what I think...

It's the law of averages, my man. The law of averages. And the law hasn't been very kind to us in the recent past. But the worm WILL turn. It has to. I honestly think we've just had a bad stroke of luck over the past decade or so. Flip a quarter 10 times and it should come up 5 heads and 5 tails. But it never seems to work that way, does it? Try it.

I really think that a team is as good as the talent, and the work they put into achieving excellence. There is no doubt that we have both the talent and the work ethic. The coaching staff is among the best in the biz. We've simply had a stroke of bad luck. "The Law of Averages" says that that will change. We get a bounce here. They lose a bounce there. Most of the team stays intact. You get the picture.

I have a good feeling about this year. And yes, I've gone into many years having a good feeling which, as you said, didn't turn out so hot; with the reverse being true as well. But the worm WILL turn my friend. It certainly will. So I'm going into this year with full blown optimism that the Cowboys can and will get it done this year. Everything seems to be falling in place this year, with a bright outlook for years to come.

It's a good time to be a Dallas Cowboys fan! :starspin:
 

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I am honored, sir.

Well, duh. It is like that Little Ceaser fellow placing a wreath of laurels on the head of a gallant roman soldier.
So go forth mein liege, and make all Romans and countrymans even prouder.
 

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Well, duh. It is like that Little Ceaser fellow placing a wreath of laurels on the head of a gallant roman soldier.
So go forth mein liege, and make all Romans and countrymans even prouder.

*Bows*
 

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we have not lost nothing either but looking in pretty good shape to challenge. What I love in sports there is no sure thing, Cowboys will have to go out there and take it.
Jason Garrett has to do as he did last year and keep this team focused, not letting them get to high after wins or too low after a loss.
 

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we have not lost nothing either but looking in pretty good shape to challenge. What I love in sports there is no sure thing, Cowboys will have to go out there and take it.
Jason Garrett has to do as he did last year and keep this team focused, not letting them get to high after wins or too low after a loss.

Right, I think Garrett is perfect for this team. He is young, he played for the Cowboys, and from every indication that I have seen from the players, they like him and respond to him.
 

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Right, I think Garrett is perfect for this team. He is young, he played for the Cowboys, and from every indication that I have seen from the players, they like him and respond to him.

That truly is what Garrett does best, I think. It makes for boring press conferences, but for a young team that is susceptible to getting enamored with their own press clippings, he is perfect.
 

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That truly is what Garrett does best, I think. It makes for boring press conferences, but for a young team that is susceptible to getting enamored with their own press clippings, he is perfect.

Jimmy was the master at pushing the right buttons and keeping the team focused. OC and DC had a job to do and so did Johnson.
 
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