The Dallas Cowboys ‘DID’ Strike Gold With Alex Tanney!

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I sure would like to see the next Kurt Warner. Makes the NFL more exciting. Who knows, he might just be on the Jaguars or Vikings roster and take them to the SB.

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Can't imagine we'll ever see anything quite like the Kurt Warner situation again. Hard to even dream up what happened with him.
 

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If Tanney beats out Orton, then he should be the #2 QB...I haven't seen anything that suggests that he is ahead of him on the depth chart and one pre-season game doesn't vault him to that status...that being said, like many of you have said, I want the best players on the roster as well...I just don't think the team carries 3 QB's unless Tanney does something to catch the eyes of the staff in he next two weeks and earns a spot on the 53
 

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Can't imagine we'll ever see anything quite like the Kurt Warner situation again. Hard to even dream up what happened with him.

From bagging groceries to the threat of being "sacked"...gotta love the KW story
 

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it was just ONE team, Kansas City and he was hurt in the PRESEASON, that's the reason why the chiefs let him go
here you can see it http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alex_Tanney

I think what is throwing people off is him being 25yrs old in only his 2nd year in the league. did he red shirt of year in college or something? what caught my attention with him being considered one of the greatest division 3 quarterbacks in historybut wasn't Romo known for being a great Division 3 quarterback as well?
 
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If he played very well these next two games, I'd be willing to roll with Tanney as #2 and see if I could trade Orton, assuming the cap hit wouldn't be too bad.

I just got a feeling Tanney will be better than Orton next year and Tanney won't last on the practice squad. And if Orton is in the game this year, then we don't have much of a chance winning anyway.

This!!

If we lose Romo it won't matter anyway. If someone offers a player at a position of need for KO then don't let them off the phone.
 

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All you guys keep saying his success was against scrubs,2nd and 3rd stringers . I disagree from the standpoint that all these young guys trying to make it in the NFL are the studs from their respective college programs, faster,bigger than than the rest. So its not like there are a bunch of high school kids he has been competing against. There are also the intangibles, heart, leadership skills, and you may not see it from the bleachers but the guys with the right stuff just give their teams a lift when they get into the game. Those are the QBs that seem to make it. Seemed like when Romo got in back when he was just starting the team was just lifted , seemed like that same feeling when Tanney was playing.
 

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I also think Tanney would have extra practice value as he could run the pistol/read to give the Cowboy's defense a chance to practice against it. It would be nice to see Tanney try a little of that in the next two games.

If I were GM, I'd be asking Oakland if they were interested in Orton right now. I'd rather have a draft pick but would consider a safety or OL. And I'd keep Stephens on the practice squad or possibly add another team's cut QB to the PS.

We got nothing for CB Mike Jenkins, RB Felix Jones and TE Martellus Bennett when we should have moved them and got something in return. Sometimes you have to take the risk if the reward is possibly pretty good.
 

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I wonder if he gets to start the 5th preseason game. That would be a real testament to the team wanting to take him.

We kept checkdown McGee on the roster for 3 years with his inaccurate throws, slow reads and poor pocket presence. Really all he had going for him was he could scramble well.

Tanney has a very good package of tools. What he doesn't have is Division I experience - he dominated for 4 years of Div III with 157 TDs and 14000 yards. Right now he looks like an NFL starter when he is out there - all he needs is experience to read defenses and the confidence to go through his reads more quickly and not stare down his receivers too much. Those are things that will come with familiarity with the offense, familiarity with the offense, knowledge about NFL defenses, time in the film room, time with Wade/Garrett/Callahan and experience.

You just don't let guys with his tools go without trying to develop them. I don't care what the Chiefs did. There is a reason they are perennial losers. A new GM comes in and often wants to bring in his players and let the old regime's guys go. Their experience with Tanney was with him fresh out of Div III so he may have improved a lot by being in the film room and working with coaches on the side in the offseason. I doubt very much that he had displayed this kind of ability last preseason or we wouldn't be having this conversation. Now the whole league saw what he did against Arizona and will be watching him closely in case we decide not to keep him on our 53 man roster. It wouldn't shock me if KC didn't grab him if we waived him as they get first crack.

I'll start with this. Watch his interception last week again. From the moment the ball was snapped he never took his eye off the receiver he wanted to throw to. This is the NFL, you can't do that. And I'll end with this, bad as it pains me. We have been to the playoffs only one more time than the Chiefs since 2000, and that was a wildcard game. We're pretty much perennial losers also. MAN THAT HURT!!!
 

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I'll start with this. Watch his interception last week again. From the moment the ball was snapped he never took his eye off the receiver he wanted to throw to. This is the NFL, you can't do that. And I'll end with this, bad as it pains me. We have been to the playoffs only one more time than the Chiefs since 2000, and that was a wildcard game. We're pretty much perennial losers also. MAN THAT HURT!!!

I think Tanney's INT looked a lot "better" than Orton's 2 INTs. Tanney was in the hurry-up offense down by 5 with time running low and had to force a throw being 3rd down on his INT. I don't rember the specifics of Orton's INTs last week. Care to critique Orton's INTs last week?
 

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I think Tanney's INT looked a lot "better" than Orton's 2 INTs. Tanney was in the hurry-up offense down by 5 with time running low and had to force a throw being 3rd down on his INT. I don't rember the specifics of Orton's INTs last week. Care to critique Orton's INTs last week?

I will go back and look. But Orton is a quality back up and that's it. I would trust him way more to come in a backup Tony than Tanney right now. Look, we need to start thinking about a Romo replacement in the next couple of years. Tanney is 26 and by the time he would get a chance, barring injury, he will be 30. I don't want to go down that road.
 

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I will go back and look. But Orton is a quality back up and that's it. I would trust him way more to come in a backup Tony than Tanney right now. Look, we need to start thinking about a Romo replacement in the next couple of years. Tanney is 26 and by the time he would get a chance, barring injury, he will be 30. I don't want to go down that road.

Come on now. Alex Tanney is 25 and there is no conceivable way of knowing if he makes the team what year he will be needed. We probably don't want to depend on Orton after his sell by date like we did with Brad Johnson.
 

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I'll start with this. Watch his interception last week again. From the moment the ball was snapped he never took his eye off the receiver he wanted to throw to. This is the NFL, you can't do that. And I'll end with this, bad as it pains me. We have been to the playoffs only one more time than the Chiefs since 2000, and that was a wildcard game. We're pretty much perennial losers also. MAN THAT HURT!!!

Geez, that's a little harsh for a rookie. I'm sure every QB at some point stared down a receiver early in their career and I wouldn't make an assessment on his potential based on a single play. His body of work in that game was impressive. It will be interesting to see what he does the rest of preseason. The fact that he has put himself in the conversation is pretty amazing because when I was at camp this year he barely got reps and never with the first teamers.
 

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I like the kid -- as a backup. Do we go another 10 years without using the top pick on a qb and put our hopes in a UDFA? I thihnk not.
 

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We probably don't want to depend on Orton after his sell by date like we did with Brad Johnson.

We won't be depending on Orton near that long he won't be 31 until Nov. Brad Johnson was 40 his final season in Dallas.
 

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OK, here is the deal. If Romo goes down for any extended period of time, this team is sunk. Kyle Orton cannot start and win in this league on any consistent basis. Therefore, why are we paying him so much money? Is it in the hopes that if Romo goes down it would only be for a game or two and we could end up with a 1-1 record? Second stringers are not that important unless they are here to be groomed to start in the future. That ain't Orton. That could be Tanney. Now, I won't annoint him based on a few good plays in one preseason game (although I gotta tell you he has the pocket presence and swagger that a good QB has) but I also do NOT want to put him on the PS and have someone else steal him away and find out later that he is a stud QB. So, if I were the GM, I would find some other place to cut and keep him on the 53 man roster. If after further evaluation he doesn't pan out we can place him on PS or cut him. I would hate to see this potenital talent go to some other team, period!!!

There isn't any backup who can start and win consistently in the league which is why they're backups. Most teams are going to be sunk if their starter goes down for an extended period especially a team that has a top 10 QB. What you hope for with your backup is that they can keep you afloat if your starter is lost for a few games. A backup QB is one of the most important positions on your team they're only one good hit away from having to lead your team. Most teams don't have backup QB's they're developing to be starters they need someone who can give them a chance in a pinch. They're looking for a QB who's at least serviceable.
 

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We won't be depending on Orton near that long he won't be 31 until Nov. Brad Johnson was 40 his final season in Dallas.

Perhaps I didn't word that as well as I could have. Brad Johnson actually looked OK during preseason his last year with the Cowboys, but by the time we needed him during the season he clearly no longer had the skills to be an NFL QB. Orton has not looked good at times this preseason. Maybe it means something, maybe it doesn't, but we either have someone getting ready in the pipe or we end up bringing in the Ryan Leafs and Drew Hensons of this world to play QB like we did in the past trying to find a starter, because we didn't plan ahead. Also, I think it is important to note that Orton decided to take a job as a backup when he should have been in his prime as a starter. That alone tells me he doesn't think he has the skills to be a starter in the NFL.
 
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