The Definition Of A Dallas Cowboy Fan

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The Definition Of A Dallas Cowboy Fan

I am a Fan,

My job description is one sentence long: I root for the team no matter what.

Even when my head tells me they might lose, my heart tells me that my head is obviously out to lunch--my team can win every time they suit up.

When my team plays, I pull for them. Even when they don't play, I pull for them.
I'm not a blind fool, though. I read the news and learn as much as I can about the team, the players, the coaching staff, the management. But nothing I learn will dissuade me from my ultimate appointed task. As soon as I stop believing in my team, I can no longer call myself a fan.
If they lose, my job is to help buck them up. I am there for the team at the game and between games.

When they win, no one is more filled with exultant joy than me. The sun shines, the birds sing, and all is right in the world.

I can criticize my team, but fundamentally I believe every week, every game, every minute will be better than the last. If I criticize them and don't believe they can or will improve, I am not a fan--I am a critic.

I can study them, dissect their every move, decry the owner, wish they were doing something different; indeed, I can even derive a great deal of pleasure out of all of the above. All of that is a part of my life as a fan. But as soon as I give up hope, I am not a fan.

I am keeper of the legacy of the team, especially in this era of salary caps and multimillion-dollar athletes. If they are playing well now, it only adds to the luster of the legacy. If they are playing poorly, I will harken back to that legacy to remind them--and myself--whence they came.
"Fan" comes from "fanatic," which in turn comes from the Latin fanum, meaning "temple." This shows that the ancients recognize that the thing that defines the fan is, simply, faith.

If this year is a bust, there's always next year. If this game is a bust, there's always next week. If the first half is a bust, there's always the second half. If this series is a bust, just wait 'til we get the ball again. We will do better.

When this year is a success, next year will be even better. When we win this week, look for that winning streak to continue. When we beat you in the first half, we're gonna shut you out the second. When we get a touchdown after this drive, we'll get another the next drive, too. We own you, Opponent--and we always will.

I am a Fan.

GO COWBOYS! BEAT THE EAGLES!

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I know too many fans, that so called supporting their team, turn out to be fair weather fans. I feel the true fans (ie.-Cowboys and Packers fans) sticks with their team through thick and thin.

GO COWBOYS!

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If you like watching this team play when they are unprepared, fat, lazy, etc. and playing down to the level of an inferior team, then I think you are more of a masochist than a fan. I agree fans hang in there from year-to-year or "regime-to-regime", but you have portrayed the fan as a slave to the team, willing to put up w/ anything, and even begging for more abuse. If the seats start going empty, most owners will start finding a way to change things, and thereby, in an indirect manner, the fan does support the team and help it to get better. IMHO your definition of a fan is more of a James Jones kool-aid drinker than a real fan. It's way to simple...
 

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If it works for you, run with it.

It doesn't work for everybody because the world is not plastic.
 

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CalCBFan said:
If you like watching this team play when they are unprepared, fat, lazy, etc. and playing down to the level of an inferior team, then I think you are more of a masochist than a fan. I agree fans hang in there from year-to-year or "regime-to-regime", but you have portrayed the fan as a slave to the team, willing to put up w/ anything, and even begging for more abuse. If the seats start going empty, most owners will start finding a way to change things, and thereby, in an indirect manner, the fan does support the team and help it to get better. IMHO your definition of a fan is more of a James Jones kool-aid drinker than a real fan. It's way to simple...


Hmmmmm...

If I criticize them and don't believe they can or will improve, I am not a fan--I am a critic.
 

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while that definition may not fit every Cowboys fan i like it.
 

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CalCBFan said:
If you like watching this team play when they are unprepared, fat, lazy, etc. and playing down to the level of an inferior team, then I think you are more of a masochist than a fan. I agree fans hang in there from year-to-year or "regime-to-regime", but you have portrayed the fan as a slave to the team, willing to put up w/ anything, and even begging for more abuse. If the seats start going empty, most owners will start finding a way to change things, and thereby, in an indirect manner, the fan does support the team and help it to get better. IMHO your definition of a fan is more of a James Jones kool-aid drinker than a real fan. It's way to simple...


Says the guy who in his 30 something posts has said

Thinks bruce had valid reasons as to why the Eagles were about to blow us out

actually like John Madden LOL

Defends Joe Gibbs and Mark Brunell Thinks Commanders O is "DYN-O-MITE"

Thinks Parcells assistants are the reason for his success in the past

Said he would "bet the farm" on the Cards to beat us

thinks Andy Reid will make a first class kicker out of Cortez

BAShes Parcells constantly

Has said after a victory I believe "We're not going anywhere in January except home"

and my personal favorite post from him

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BP is a chicken-$h.. coach. Who do you think is running this team? We were outsmarted by a REAL HC, Joe Gibbs. He just waited until we thought it was over and then wham, wham nailed us like in a Steven Segal movie. This is Gibbs 2nd year and look at his D. They shut down our run and confused Bledso. Ours still isn't right, w/ all our great draft picks. I predict we'll finish last in the NFC East. We can even beat the 'Skins anymore, and the Giants will pick our 2ndary apart. I will be suprised if we beat the 9ers. They have owned us for years. I hate Bill Parcells....





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BigDFan5, you haven't really given any reasons why my posts were wrong. Check out the DMN. Half of those guys are picking the Eagles. Listen to the PCs sometime an see how BP treats reporters that ask him questions he doesn't like. And he definitely sounds like an East Coast homer in some of these PCs. Sometimes I wonder who's side he's on. But then he's just doing it to butter-up the opposition, right? Gibbs has been back in DC 1 year and he has his team competitive. It has taken BP 2 years (that's TWICE as long!) to get his team going. Why don't you go back and repost some of what was posted on this site about how terrible Mark Brunnell was and how we were going to crush him and his rag arm. He looked pretty sharp last Sunday against the Eagles. Oh and did I mention that his team pulled out their game with us, in our own stadium? Look at the teams that go somewhere besides home in January and they beat poor teams with authority (ala the Cards game) and win against good teams (ala SD). Washington came in here and beat us at home. They found a way to win. Good teams win on a CONSISTENT basis.

There a plenty of posters here that are warning about a Philly blowout. I just agreed that Bruce had some legitimate points. If you want to ignore reality, go ahead. I'm not about to stake my life that it won't happen. Do I want it to happen? HADES NO!! Will I have to live with it if it does happen? HADES YES!!

If get mad as a wet hen when our HC tries to burn the 2nd half sitting on a 13 point lead only to lose at the end, it is because I have watched the SF 49ers crush people for the 23 years from 1981 to 2003. They never sat on any lead. They always played agressively. And they had 4 SBs to show for it. This is why I say that works! (This was the approach that Jimmy took and he won 2 in a row.) It took Troy Aikman to beat them several important games in the early '90s, and after '95 he couldn't even do it anymore. I know because I had to suffer the jeers of 9er fans when the beat us at home and away.

Schottenheimer, Mora, Sr. and Dom Capers are in the same mold as BP. Capers won as many PO games as Marty and Jim combined (almost). Cower has only been to the SB once, and we beat him, so don't act as if I'm some kind of idiot when I complain about conservative play calling. And what's wrong with wanting a coach that can coach the players that are here? If you take you car in for reapirs, do you want a place that can permanently fix the problem or one that has to sell you a 20 year old model because it was "better built in those days". Get real.

There is a lot more I could answer but I'm tired of typing. I am delighted with the draft this year, and with all the games we have won. I would like to see us beat the snot out of Philly, as well as Detroit and Denver. i think we have the manpower to do it. But will we? I don't know; I really don't. I've seen so many different outcomes w/ this team this year I can't be sure. And I'm a little leery of adoring "fans" who apparently have no concept of reality.

Gryphon's essay is fantastic for his 8th grade English class, but some of us here remember Eddie LeBaron, Don Meredith, Jerry Rhome and Craig Morton, Roger Staubach, Danny White and Gary Hogeboom and Steve Pelleur, Troy Aikman, and even Glenn Carano. i.e. we don't think the Cowboys were invented with Jimmy Johnson. And sometime the reason people get so upset is because they really do love the team and the organization and it's rich history and don't want to see that tarnished or taken lightly. Maybe that's what I think a "fan" is. I'll b et I'm a lot more like BP in my thinking than Gryphon is.

Anyway, if you don't like my posts, tough!!!...
 

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BigDFan5, you haven't really given any reasons why my posts were wrong. Check out the DMN. Half of those guys are picking the Eagles.


DMN picks against us frequently they arent any kind of measuring stick


Listen to the PCs sometime an see how BP treats reporters that ask him questions he doesn't like. And he definitely sounds like an East Coast homer in some of these PCs.

So?


Sometimes I wonder who's side he's on.

lmao

But then he's just doing it to butter-up the opposition, right?

Unlike fans most coaches dont run around yelling the other team sucks. I mean your beloved Joe Gibbs was pumping up the 9ers before their game think he meant it?


Gibbs has been back in DC 1 year and he has his team competitive.

How did they do his first year? BP was 10-6 in the playoffs



It has taken BP 2 years (that's TWICE as long!) to get his team going.

His first season lol




Why don't you go back and repost some of what was posted on this site about how terrible Mark Brunnell was and how we were going to crush him and his rag arm. He looked pretty sharp last Sunday against the Eagles.

yeah he has looked great recently not throwing a TD in 3 weeks 65 yards passing and an INT aginst the Ginats and no TDs last week.


Oh and did I mention that his team pulled out their game with us, in our own stadium?

Yeah we dominated for 55 minutes and our D had a couple mistakes at the end. Anyone who watched the game knows who the better team was.

Look at the teams that go somewhere besides home in January and they beat poor teams with authority (ala the Cards game) and win against good teams (ala SD).


Yeah we beat the so what are you saying?



Washington came in here and beat us at home. They found a way to win. Good teams win on a CONSISTENT basis.

We already discussed how they won. and whats more consistent a team who has won 3 of 4 games or 3 of 5 which I am sure you prefer and losing all 3 games by a combined 10 points or the Commanders who have won 2 of 5 while losing their games by a combined 45 points?

There a plenty of posters here that are warning about a Philly blowout.

yeah like 3


I just agreed that Bruce had some legitimate points. If you want to ignore reality, go ahead.

Reality is we have a better team than The Eagles right now and there is no way we get blown out

I'm not about to stake my life that it won't happen. Do I want it to happen? HADES NO!! Will I have to live with it if it does happen? HADES YES!!

I've red your posts personally I dont think you would care if it happened because then you could bash Parcells for another week

If get mad as a wet hen when our HC tries to burn the 2nd half sitting on a 13 point lead only to lose at the end,


Yeah damn him for putting the #5 D in the NFL on the field to win a game




it is because I have watched the SF 49ers crush people for the 23 years from 1981 to 2003. They never sat on any lead. They always played agressively. And they had 4 SBs to show for it.


We arent the 49ers, and BTW they have 5 SB's same as us



This is why I say that works! (This was the approach that Jimmy took and he won 2 in a row.) It took Troy Aikman to beat them several important games in the early '90s, and after '95 he couldn't even do it anymore. I know because I had to suffer the jeers of 9er fans when the beat us at home and away.

They are gone move on



Schottenheimer, Mora, Sr. and Dom Capers are in the same mold as BP.

LOL except BP is a hall of fame coach with mutiple titles sure



Capers won as many PO games as Marty and Jim combined (almost). Cower has only been to the SB once, and we beat him, so don't act as if I'm some kind of idiot when I complain about conservative play calling.

Which one of those coaches above coach the Cowboys?


And what's wrong with wanting a coach that can coach the players that are here?


If you havent noticed he as done this we are 5-3 and the players love him


If you take you car in for reapirs, do you want a place that can permanently fix the problem or one that has to sell you a 20 year old model because it was "better built in those days". Get real.

I take the one that works

There is a lot more I could answer but I'm tired of typing. I am delighted with the draft this year, and with all the games we have won. I would like to see us beat the snot out of Philly, as well as Detroit and Denver. i think we have the manpower to do it.

You think we cn do it yet said to bet the farm on us losing to Arizona



But will we? I don't know; I really don't. I've seen so many different outcomes w/ this team this year I can't be sure. And I'm a little leery of adoring "fans" who apparently have no concept of reality.

and I am sure most fans are tired of people that calll themselves "fans" yet do nothing but criticize the team and its coaches

Gryphon's essay is fantastic for his 8th grade English class, but some of us here remember Eddie LeBaron, Don Meredith, Jerry Rhome and Craig Morton, Roger Staubach, Danny White and Gary Hogeboom and Steve Pelleur, Troy Aikman, and even Glenn Carano. i.e. we don't think the Cowboys were invented with Jimmy Johnson.

Yeah I remember them so what? It doesnt make me an authority on anything just as it doesnt you. If you believe hating the coach and loving the Commanders is the best way to be a "fan" of the Cowboys you go right ahead



And sometime the reason people get so upset is because they really do love the team and the organization and it's rich history and don't want to see that tarnished or taken lightly. Maybe that's what I think a "fan" is. I'll b et I'm a lot more like BP in my thinking than Gryphon is.

So bashing the organization is the best way not to tarnish it?? ok....

Anyway, if you don't like my posts, tough!!!...


Such a tough guy. I m shaking really I am.
 

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If you like watching this team play when they are unprepared, fat, lazy, etc. and playing down to the level of an inferior team, then I think you are more of a masochist than a fan. I agree fans hang in there from year-to-year or "regime-to-regime", but you have portrayed the fan as a slave to the team, willing to put up w/ anything, and even begging for more abuse. If the seats start going empty, most owners will start finding a way to change things, and thereby, in an indirect manner, the fan does support the team and help it to get better. IMHO your definition of a fan is more of a James Jones kool-aid drinker than a real fan. It's way to simple...

I agree completely.

Just because someone is critical, that does not make them any less passionate. To suggest otherwise is a little insulting and elitest, even though most that fit the above description tend to paint their faces when they go to games.
 

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Thanks Alexander. Of course I may not be enamored of BP but in no way do I love the Commanders. I think you are most productive when you realize and accept the skill level of you opponents. I guess that for some people you aren't a "fan when you do this. When BP gets us back to the SB and plays competively (notice I'm not even asking us to win it) I'll start to show him more respect. This is a what have you done for me lately business, and w/ each franchise, he accomplishes less and less. That is a fact. Some might think his PO apparance in his 1st season was a fluke, and I do think we had the advantage of a weaker schedule and other teams perception that we were a bye week.

I sure hope that at the end of the season we get some credit for dominating the Commanders for 58 minutes. But that might be offset by the credit the 49ers will get for keeping us at bay for 3.5 quarters. (Please don't get the idea that I LOVE the 49ers.)

I wonder if BigDFan5 thought Tom Landry should have been fired in 1989 after that 1 and 15 season? Would a real fan have thought that?...
 

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I wonder if BigDFan5 thought Tom Landry should have been fired in 1989 after that 1 and 15 season? Would a real fan have thought that?...

Tom Landry didn't coach in 1989. His last year was 1988 and his record was 3-13.

Jimmy Johnson's first year was 1989 and he was the one who coached us to a record of 1-15. (the "1" was the Commanders at RFK, hehe).

I'm a longtime Cowboy fan and I can remember that we opened that year with the Saints and got blown out after having a successful preseason. Hopes were kinda high after playing so well in preseason, but the reality of the regular season set in real fast.

Troy Aikman was a rookie. We had the first pick overall in the draft that year because of Landry's last record of 3-13. Some said we should've taken Tony Mandarich to open holes for Herschel Walker, but Jimmy held his position and took Aikman 1st overall.

I remember Aikman getting knocked just about out vs. the Cards on a perfect pass to Irvin, who was in his second season. Someone for the Cards put the crown of their helment right on Aikman's chin just as he released the ball.

That year we also had Moose Johnston, Mark Stepnoski, and Tony Tolbert playing as rookies. A pretty good draft class, huh? We had actually drafted Steve Wisnewski in the second round too, but it was a pick we made for the Raiders in a trade that netted us, among others, Stan Smagala out of Notre Dame (big whoop). I had always wished we would've managed to keep Wisnewski and let the Raiders keep all the picks we got from them in that trade. Wisnewski was one mean SOB and a very good guard for years.

Of course the highlight of that pitiful season was when we went into RFK and whipped up on the Commanders. We played the perfect game. No turnovers and no penalties against us. Even with that, we were so lacking in talent that we still barely won... but win we did.:D

Overall, it was a pretty miserable year but I still watched every second of every game that I could. I don't care what's going on with the team... I just love to watch the Cowboys play football.

When the team is bad like that, I just watch the young guys and see what we might have in the future. Like in 1989 you could see that we had something in Aikman, Johnston, Tolbert, Stepnoski, Irvin, Tuinei, Newton, etc. That's my secret to watching bad seasons... I go from fan to personnel guy and start looking for the future, lol.

Anyway, I remember all of that, straight off the top of my head, without even breaking a sweat. Just like it happened yesterday.

So, I'm a little surprised that, for as big a fan as you say you are... and as much of a long timer as you claim to be... that you thought it was Tom Landry who coached the 1-15 1989 team. I mean, who would forget Jimmy's first year? Or Landry's last, for that matter? How could you forget Buddy Ryan telling the media to tell Jimmy Johnson that "there aren't any East Carolina's in the NFL"?

I mean, Jimmy goin' 1-15 in his first year is simply an unforgettable time for longtime Cowboy fans. I don't understand how you didn't know that.

Then again, I don't understand how you can routinely critisize almost everything about the Cowboys and then speak in glowing terms about the Commanders and their funny little head coach. I just don't get that either.

I guess I'm just a lot different kind of Cowboy fan than you are. Night and Day, I'd say. Each to his own, I suppose.
 

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Tom Landry didn't coach in 1989. His last year was 1988 and his record was 3-13.

Jimmy Johnson's first year was 1989 and he was the one who coached us to a record of 1-15. (the "1" was the Commanders at RFK, hehe).

I'm a longtime Cowboy fan and I can remember that we opened that year with the Saints and got blown out after having a successful preseason. Hopes were kinda high after playing so well in preseason, but the reality of the regular season set in real fast.

Troy Aikman was a rookie. We had the first pick overall in the draft that year because of Landry's last record of 3-13. Some said we should've taken Tony Mandarich to open holes for Herschel Walker, but Jimmy held his position and took Aikman 1st overall.

I remember Aikman getting knocked just about out vs. the Cards on a perfect pass to Irvin, who was in his second season. Someone for the Cards put the crown of their helment right on Aikman's chin just as he released the ball.

That year we also had Moose Johnston, Mark Stepnoski, and Tony Tolbert playing as rookies. A pretty good draft class, huh? We had actually drafted Steve Wisnewski in the second round too, but it was a pick we made for the Raiders in a trade that netted us, among others, Stan Smagala out of Notre Dame (big whoop). I had always wished we would've managed to keep Wisnewski and let the Raiders keep all the picks we got from them in that trade. Wisnewski was one mean SOB and a very good guard for years.

Of course the highlight of that pitiful season was when we went into RFK and whipped up on the Commanders. We played the perfect game. No turnovers and no penalties against us. Even with that, we were so lacking in talent that we still barely won... but win we did.:D

Overall, it was a pretty miserable year but I still watched every second of every game that I could. I don't care what's going on with the team... I just love to watch the Cowboys play football.

When the team is bad like that, I just watch the young guys and see what we might have in the future. Like in 1989 you could see that we had something in Aikman, Johnston, Tolbert, Stepnoski, Irvin, Tuinei, Newton, etc. That's my secret to watching bad seasons... I go from fan to personnel guy and start looking for the future, lol.

Anyway, I remember all of that, straight off the top of my head, without even breaking a sweat. Just like it happened yesterday.

So, I'm a little surprised that, for as big a fan as you say you are... and as much of a long timer as you claim to be... that you thought it was Tom Landry who coached the 1-15 1989 team. I mean, who would forget Jimmy's first year? Or Landry's last, for that matter? How could you forget Buddy Ryan telling the media to tell Jimmy Johnson that "there aren't any East Carolina's in the NFL"?

I mean, Jimmy goin' 1-15 in his first year is simply an unforgettable time for longtime Cowboy fans. I don't understand how you didn't know that.

Then again, I don't understand how you can routinely critisize almost everything about the Cowboys and then speak in glowing terms about the Commanders and their funny little head coach. I just don't get that either.

I guess I'm just a lot different kind of Cowboy fan than you are. Night and Day, I'd say. Each to his own, I suppose.




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