The difference between us and the Patriots

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ThreeSportStar80;2909232 said:
Football is what it is.... Be smart, physical and good things will come. Pittsburgh and New England are both.
right on...like it or not
 

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They've had some pretty good Oline and Dline players during the last decade. That always helps.
 

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Yakuza Rich;2909263 said:
Difference between trying to gain an edge and blatantly cheating, even when the Commissioner makes a point before the season to notify teams that filming signals is against the rules, then when you get caught to flat out lie about it and keep on making lie after lie after lie and trying to ruin the reputation of a guy (Walsh) who was just telling the truth.

If that's okay, then the Cowboys should try to blatantly pay players under the table so they don't have to worry about the salary cap.





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i'll also say ive never thought brady is all that good...if you cant stand in the pocket and deliver the ball to who you want, because you have a good 1.5 to 3 seconds longer than any other QB in the league...you dont belong at QB.
i want to see what cassel does now...if he does bad the rest of his career then last year will be written off as a fluke, but i will always contest that it would be the same career brady would have anywhere else.

if he(cassel) does well ill praise brady but i dont think it will happen.
 

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Great post, I've been mentioning this for years but the conversation seems to always degenerate into a rant about the refs or the video taping scandal. Somehow the Pats went 11-5 last year without video taping or their elite QB, that certainly supports the points made in this post.

I wish Jerry would try to emulate some of the traits of teams like Philly, New England, Baltimore and Pitt. All 4 of these teams seem to have stayed pretty competitive throughout the free agency era and have refrained from getting their teams tied down with big contracts to a few players nor do they let the inmates run the asylum.

It appears that someone in our organization may be realizing these things as indicated by our off season. Hopefully Jerry can be restrained from making any crazy signings or trades and start to build an organization that is focused on team first, hard work & discipline. In these days of parity, free agency and the salary cap, you don't need a team full of superstars to be competitive. You just need a team that plays the game of football well.

I'm still mystified why Jerry won't empower his head coach, but that's probably never gonna change.

IMO, one thing I think will never change is that you have to have a better than average QB to be in the running for a championship year in and out. That's the one position on the team that's worth tying lots of money or draft picks up in obtaining.

Lastly, I heard a report that the Pats make players run sprints/laps after penalties in practice. This seems more effective as I just cant see how sitting out a play is that big of a punishment or a deterrent, seems tantamount to a time out for a child. Why our team can't stop committing so many penalties is bewildering.
 

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Mansta54;2909210 said:
Who gives a flying **** about the Pats.. Dude, please!!!:rolleyes:


Ah, the chief book burner pops up. Yes, why let him, the "Dude" speak his mind when we can listen to you, from Mary Land.:laugh2:

Just keep on going and visit a thread in which you might contribute some cognizant or even something close to vague intelligence. Because, again, you have failed. :)
 

TonyRomo#9

for anyone touting the greatness of bellichek and hating on wade.. belicheck has said one of the coaches he most respects is wade..
 

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RS12;2909307 said:
They play well as a unit, but the Giants exposed them in the Super Bowl as being very ordinary talents.

Yeah, because it's not like the Giants had one of the best Dline rotations in the last 15 years. :rolleyes:

Give credit where credit is due.

The Giants got hot and had an outstanding postseason from their defensive line.

They made everyone they faced look "ordinary". They sure as hell owned us in the 2nd half.
 

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TonyRomo#9;2909404 said:
for anyone touting the greatness of bellichek and hating on wade.. belicheck has said one of the coaches he most respects is wade..


Hey, I respect the heck out of my ex-wife. She was great in the hay and really knows how to pick a divorce attorney.

And she is a great gal too. She allows me to visit my testicles regularly.

But that doesn't change what a muttonhead she is.

Billy B may have the same sentiments about our pal Wade.
 

TonyRomo#9

TwoDeep3;2909416 said:
Hey, I respect the heck out of my ex-wife. She was great in the hay and really knows how to pick a divorce attorney.

And she is a great gal too. She allows me to visit my testicles regularly.

But that doesn't change what a muttonhead she is.

Billy B may have the same sentiments about our pal Wade.


are you suggesting the bill respects how good wade is in the sack?
i think it was his defensive mind bill was saying he respected.
 

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Screw the Patriots. Lets not forget that they to cheated the nfl and didn't get any kind of penalty whatsoever. If that was Dallas they would have taken all our 1st round draft picks for 10 years and removed all our past superbowl titles.

Secondly, Patriots get away with alot of things in terms of penalties. They can afford to body up to a reciever and mug then without raising a flag. On the other hand, refs are happy to call anything on us or flag our opponents for anything against us. See that flagrant foul against TO in the endzone last year.

Yeah I know something is wrong with the NFL especially when they call those holding fouls on Flozel when his not even in the vacinity.

Face it fellas. The league doesnt like us. Were hated by the majority of Americans and want to see us fail. The NFL, ESPN and others wants to see us fail. Its big money and thats one of the reasons why we cant get over the hump.
 

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You forgot the offensive line. Probably one of the best. That is a big difference. That is why a guy like Cassel can come in and be so successful. Just watch what he does this season. Their offensive line is much better than ours.
 

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They have not won a Superbowl in 5 years.

Their "dynasty" is over.
 

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I thought the difference was they CHEATED to win 3 titles & we didn't. :D
 

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ghst187;2909201 said:
I'm convinced that if we exhibit the 3 above traits this season that we should win at least a playoff game or two.
I agree, but I'll go even farther and say that if they really do those things you say, this team will still be playing come February.
 

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the main difference is the offensive line. brady and moss come next. we aren't even close to them.
 

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To put it simple...The difference between us and them is Tom Brady, Superbowl experience and coaching.
 

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I think the Patriots are an old-school team. They're a lesson in how things were run and should be run. They're a true team, its as if they exist outside of the free agency/big paychecks culture. You can tell just from observing the players on up to the coaches and staff that they're commited to the team, a personal commitment, that just doesnt seem to exist in a lot of nfl camps.
 

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zack;2909445 said:
You forgot the offensive line. Probably one of the best. That is a big difference. That is why a guy like Cassel can come in and be so successful. Just watch what he does this season. Their offensive line is much better than ours.

The Giants werent very impressed with the Pats OL, thats why they trashed Brady and won the super bowl.

Their OL gets away with alot of holding, but they arnt that great anymore IMO. And they arnt very physical either.
 

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zrinkill;2909449 said:
They have not won a Superbowl in 5 years.

Their "dynasty" is over.

not even sure I'd call it a "dynasty"

they barely won each of those 3 superbowls...the fact that their cheating is common knowledge now makes it all the more questionable to me.

whatever it was, yeah I agree...its over and done with

they are an old football team too
 
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