The Dirty Dozen Series - Quarterbacks

[Jarv]

Hmmm. I disagree with this a lot. Bledsoe is better than half the people on this list. Hell more than half. Did you see last season at all? Before our line collapsed and we were starting rookies he had better numbers than anyone except manning on this list. I would not trade Bledsoe for any on this list except maybe Manning. Vick? You got to be joking.

Including Brady, guess NE made the wrong choice ??? Carson Palmer ??? Roth ???

All I can saw is wow...

 

[burmafrd]

Brady is the best QB in the game- not just the way he plays and the plays he makes- but he has those 3 rings off of very good to great SB's.

 

[Colo]

I would not trade Bledsoe for any on this list except maybe Manning. Vick? You got to be joking.

Dude - tell me you're joking. I can't say I agree with the list entirely or that Bledsoe is anything less than a solid vet QB, but not trading Drew for at least half of these guys, if the opportunity were there, would be a mistake in my book.

 

[CrazyCowboy]

Drew deserves to be in there IMO

 

[Xy_Oldone]

Dude - tell me you're joking. I can't say I agree with the list entirely or that Bledsoe is anything less than a solid vet QB, but not trading Drew for at least half of these guys, if the opportunity were there, would be a mistake in my book.

Why would I have been joking. Last year when our line was healthy the first couple of weeks he had better numbers than anyone. Period. And over his career he has some of the best numbers out there. Plummer? What a two year wonder. What did he do in Arizona? Vick would be toasted in the offense we run. Mcnabb he should not even be on the list if it is a list of last year. He was out the last several games with an injury. And before that was playing poorly. Drew has always put up better numbers than Mcnabb. You can have him.

Big Ben maybe. Culpepper no way. Palmer? Nah I do not want him. I rather have experience.

I am not just saying this because Bledsoe is on our team. He has always been a great QB and would have gotten NE to the superbowl that year if not for the injury. If he did not have that one injury he would have 3 rings not Brady.

 

[Idgit]

Brady
Manning
Palmer
Hasselback
Roths
Brees
Delhomme
Bledsoe
Green
Mcflabb
Leftwich
Culpepper

Wow. Very close to my own list. Only change I would make would be to replace 'Culpepper' with 'bag of dirty socks.'

 

[Colo]

Why would I have been joking. Last year when our line was healthy the first couple of weeks he had better numbers than anyone. Period. And over his career he has some of the best numbers out there. Plummer? What a two year wonder. What did he do in Arizona? Vick would be toasted in the offense we run. Mcnabb he should not even be on the list if it is a list of last year. He was out the last several games with an injury. And before that was playing poorly. Drew has always put up better numbers than Mcnabb. You can have him.

Big Ben maybe. Culpepper no way. Palmer? Nah I do not want him. I rather have experience.

I am not just saying this because Bledsoe is on our team. He has always been a great QB and would have gotten NE to the superbowl that year if not for the injury. If he did not have that one injury he would have 3 rings not Brady.

Let's go back to the original list -

1. Peyton Manning - yes
2. Tom Brady - yes
3. Donovan McNabb - I might take some heat for this, but probably
4. Carson Palmer - yes, pending successful rehab from the knee injury of course
5. Ben Roethlisberger - yes
6. Matt Hasselbeck - yes
7. Daunte Culpepper
8. Drew Brees - yes
9. Jake Plummer
10. Trent Green
11. Michael Vick - yes (too much ability to pass up)
12. Jake Delhomme

I never said Bledsoe isn't solid, but most of these guys could be our QBs for years to come, not just another year or two. That makes them more valuable IMO.

 

[Xy_Oldone]

1. Peyton Manning - yes (But he has not proven he can win the big games. Marino is condsidered one of the best but I would rather have Aikman. He won when needed.)
2. Tom Brady - No. IMO he has never put up the numbers or the precentages Bledsoe has. He came in on a good team and is a great QB.
3. Donovan McNabb - Hell no. He is very inaccurate IMO.
4. Carson Palmer - Maybe. Pending the Knee.
5. Ben Roethlisberger - yes
6. Matt Hasselbeck - No
7. Daunte Culpepper - No
8. Drew Brees - No
9. Jake Plummer - Deffinetly NO
10. Trent Green - No
11. Michael Vick - No. What has he ever done. Sure he can run. I would never take him over Bledsoe personally
12. Jake Delhomme - No


Its cool we can just agree to disagree. I have my opinion and you have yours. We shall never know.

 

[sbneff]

Why would I have been joking. Last year when our line was healthy the first couple of weeks he had better numbers than anyone. Period. And over his career he has some of the best numbers out there. Plummer? What a two year wonder. What did he do in Arizona? Vick would be toasted in the offense we run. Mcnabb he should not even be on the list if it is a list of last year. He was out the last several games with an injury. And before that was playing poorly. Drew has always put up better numbers than Mcnabb. You can have him.

Big Ben maybe. Culpepper no way. Palmer? Nah I do not want him. I rather have experience.

I am not just saying this because Bledsoe is on our team. He has always been a great QB and would have gotten NE to the superbowl that year if not for the injury. If he did not have that one injury he would have 3 rings not Brady.

You are so lost in your thoughts, sorry but Bledsoe has been and always will be an average QB (mediocre). As a playoff QB he is simply pathetic. I think you need to go look at what he's done versus dreaming up your senario.

 

[cowboyeric8]

Vick is overrated, but with our O-Line, you are a fool if you wouldnt trade him straight up for Vick

Call me a fool then. Thats like trading Aikman for Cunningham

 

[sbneff]

2. Tom Brady - No. IMO he has never put up the numbers or the precentages Bledsoe has. He came in on a good team and is a great QB.

This is where you are wrong. Let's take a look at the two QB's in their first five season (since Brady only has 5-years of data).

Brady:

Comp: 1576
Att: 2545
Pct: 62
Yds: 18029
Y/A: 7.14
TD: 123
INT: 66
QB Rating: 88.6

Brady in the playoffs:

Comp: 225
Att: 367
Pct: 61.3
YDS: 2493
TD: 15
INT: 5
W/L: 10-1
QB Rating: 89.4

Bledsoe:

Comp: 1624
Att: 2901
Pct: 56
YDS: 18348
Y/A: 6.32
TD: 108
INT: 88
QB Rating: 74.74

Bledsoe in the playoffs:

Comp: 129
Att: 252
Pct: 51.2
YDS: 1335
TD: 6
INT: 12
W/L: 3-3
QB Rating: 54.9


Now, who's been putting up better numbers? By the way, the Patriots do not win anything with Bledsoe as their QB. He (Bledsoe) was 5-13 with a Belichick coached team.

 

[cowboywho?]

Your a homer if you actually think that Bledsoe is better then Brady.

If looking at Brady three Superbowl rings cant convince you I dont know what will.

Even last year when his team was injured he was the guy who carried them into the playoff. And if you dont want this guy on your team i certainly would.

 

[cowboywho?]

Brady > Manning

People think that Manning is better tehn Brady because of allthe highlight videos that Manning put up because of his long passes. However Brady drill it in style QB play is in another league.

In a game where my team is down by 6, 3rd and 10, 30 yards away from the endzone. I would rather have Brady then Manning.

 

[Hostile]

Brady > Manning

People think that Manning is better tehn Brady because of allthe highlight videos that Manning put up because of his long passes. However Brady drill it in style QB play is in another league.

In a game where my team is down by 6, 3rd and 10, 30 yards away from the endzone. I would rather have Brady then Manning.

Put Brady on the Colts or Manning on the Patriots and I bet Manning would start. Just my opinion though.

 

[cowboywho?]

Actually it depends on the wide recievers.
If you have very good wide recievers i think manning would excel over brady.
however the reason brady is such a ******** good qb is because he make any reciever look good. IMO

 

[CowboyWay]

Here's mine........

1. Peyton Manning
2. Tom Brady
3. Carson Palmer
4. Donavan McNabb
5. Matt Hasselback
6.Jake Delhomme
7. Trent Green
8. Drew Brees
9. Brett Favre (I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt)
10. Byron Leftwich
11. Ben Roethlisberger
12. Jake Plummer (great season last year, but still some doubt.

I'd put Bledsoe in the top 15, anyone puts him in the top 10 and you're wearing homer goggles

 

[Screw The Hall]

Put Brady on the Colts or Manning on the Patriots and I bet Manning would start. Just my opinion though.

But would they win titles?

 

[ghst187]

I don't think Brady has had a legit WR since he's been in NE, just a very average bunch of #2 and #3s and some cast off, over-the-hill vets. Manning has had Reggie Wayne, Dallas Clark, and Marvin Harrison to throw to.
NE also didn't have a running game prior to Corey Dillon whereas Manning has always had Edge.
I think those two factors make a huge difference. Its especially remarkable to think about when you look at those factors and see which guy has three SB rings and which guy doesn't.

 

[Hostile]

I don't think Brady has had a legit WR since he's been in NE, just a very average bunch of #2 and #3s and some cast off, over-the-hill vets. Manning has had Reggie Wayne, Dallas Clark, and Marvin Harrison to throw to.
NE also didn't have a running game prior to Corey Dillon whereas Manning has always had Edge.
I think those two factors make a huge difference. Its especially remarkable to think about when you look at those factors and see which guy has three SB rings and which guy doesn't.

Yeah but you also have to consider which guy has had the better OL, Defense, STs and Head Coach. I know until he wins one Manning comes with a stigma, just like Marino did. I just don't happen to agree with those stigmas. Winning it all isn't easy and it isn't all on the QB, though he plays a huge role.

 

[jay cee]

Call me a fool then. Thats like trading Aikman for Cunningham

LOL...I know you were joking, but that's what I wanted the Cowboys to do when Carolina knocked them out of the playoffs after the '96 season.

Trade Aikman for some bigtime defensive help and bring Cunningham out of retirement to play QB.