The Drew Bledsoe question

[silvernblu]

In 2001, Bill Belichek went with the young, green, still learning back up over the all star but can’t get you over the hump, there is just something missing veteran. The rest is history.

Jerry thought he had a similar situation when he went with the hot hand Dak, over a returning veteran who was great but couldn’t get to the promised land. It turns out in retrospect, that was the wrong move.

So here we are. Do we stay with the hot hand, or go back to the veteran who can’t seem to get us over the hump?

In this case, I do think Dak is the better player. I just think maybe he needs Cooper to read the defense for him somehow.

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

Neither Dak or Rush is the answer.

Also, Rush and Dak are basically the same age.

Brady is 5 years younger than Bledsoe.

 

[Oz-of-Cowboy-Country]

I really don't think Rush is better than Dak, but I'd let Rush start until he loses.

 

[Bobhaze]

In 2001, Bill Belichek went with the young, green, still learning back up over the all star but can’t get you over the hump, there is just something missing veteran. The rest is history.

Jerry thought he had a similar situation when he went with the hot hand Dak, over a returning veteran who was great but couldn’t get to the promised land. It turns out in retrospect, that was the wrong move.

So here we are. Do we stay with the hot hand, or go back to the veteran who can’t seem to get us over the hump?

In this case, I do think Dak is the better player. I just think maybe he needs Cooper to read the defense for him somehow.

The Cooper Rush excitement reminds me of the 1991 Cowboys season.

In 1991, Troy Aikman got hurt in the 11th game of the season, and we were 6-5. He would miss the remainder of the regular season. Backup QB Steve Buerlein stepped in and led the team to 5 straight wins, and the team made the playoffs as a WC team. We even won a road playoff game vs the bears in the WC game. But in the divisional round, we got walloped by the lions in a bad game for Buerlein.

Many Cowboys fans wanted Buerlein to be the starter going into 1992. Jimmy Johnson knew better. I’m not saying Dak is Troy. And I don’t care who starts at QB as long as we win. But I do believe Cooper Rush is not a long time answer.

 

[ChronicCowboy]

I think Rush plays in LA. Everyone could be clamoring for Dak after that game.

 

[Majic]

The Cooper Rush excitement reminds me of the 1991 Cowboys season.

In 1991, Troy Aikman got hurt in the 11th game of the season, and we were 6-5. He would miss the remainder of the regular season. Backup QB Steve Buerlein stepped in and led the team to 5 straight wins, and the team made the playoffs as a WC team. We even won a road playoff game vs the bears in the WC game. But in the divisional round, we got walloped by the lions in a bad game for Buerlein.

Many Cowboys fans wanted Buerlein to be the starter going into 1992. Jimmy Johnson knew better. I’m not saying Dak is Troy. And I don’t care who starts at QB as long as we win. But I do believe Cooper Rush is not a long time answer.

I remember John Madden commenting at the time that he thought Buerlein was the better player (i think around the end of the 91 season)

 

[OmerV]

In 2001, Bill Belichek went with the young, green, still learning back up over the all star but can’t get you over the hump, there is just something missing veteran. The rest is history.

Jerry thought he had a similar situation when he went with the hot hand Dak, over a returning veteran who was great but couldn’t get to the promised land. It turns out in retrospect, that was the wrong move.

So here we are. Do we stay with the hot hand, or go back to the veteran who can’t seem to get us over the hump?

In this case, I do think Dak is the better player. I just think maybe he needs Cooper to read the defense for him somehow.

The Patriots won the Super Bowl with Brady while Bledsoe was out. How in the world would going back to Bledsoe after that have even been an option?

In Dallas, Bledsoe was never meant to be the long term answer, plus Romo was being groomed to start, and Bledsoe was playing poorly at the time. The change had to come at some point.

How can we say staying with Dak was the wrong move in 2016? We don't know how it would have gone if Romo had been put back in as the starting QB. There was certainly no history to tell us things would have gone differently. I'm not saying Romo wouldn't have been better - he may or may not have been - but we have no way to know. What the team did know was Romo was 36 years old, had sustained injuries that kept him out a long time 3 of the previous 4 times he had played a game (including the preseason game in 2016), and that Dak appeared to be a possible long term solution. The team could have justified either choice.

As for the current situation, I'm certainly pleased with what Rush has done, and I'm not opposed to replacing Dak if the right opportunity were there, but Rush has not been thought of as an eventual replacement because he has physical limitations. That doesn't mean he shouldn't be considered to keep playing short term, but he is never going to be viewed as a long term answer the way Romo & Dak were when the decisions were made on them.

 

[darthseinfeld]

In 2001, Bill Belichek went with the young, green, still learning back up over the all star but can’t get you over the hump, there is just something missing veteran. The rest is history.

Jerry thought he had a similar situation when he went with the hot hand Dak, over a returning veteran who was great but couldn’t get to the promised land. It turns out in retrospect, that was the wrong move.

So here we are. Do we stay with the hot hand, or go back to the veteran who can’t seem to get us over the hump?

In this case, I do think Dak is the better player. I just think maybe he needs Cooper to read the defense for him somehow.

Why do we keep comparing Rush to Brady.

Rush is what he is. He is a good bus driver that keeps TO's down, and sustains drives enough to keep the defensive fresh. If we have to put points on the board, he isnt someone we can count on. In 4 games, 25 points is the most we have scored with him

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

In 2001, Bill Belichek went with the young, green, still learning back up over the all star but can’t get you over the hump, there is just something missing veteran. The rest is history.

Jerry thought he had a similar situation when he went with the hot hand Dak, over a returning veteran who was great but couldn’t get to the promised land. It turns out in retrospect, that was the wrong move.

So here we are. Do we stay with the hot hand, or go back to the veteran who can’t seem to get us over the hump?

In this case, I do think Dak is the better player. I just think maybe he needs Cooper to read the defense for him somehow.

if Dak doesn't play next two weeks and we go 1-1, then maybe...so far rush doesn't have a win against a team with a winning record. its been run game and defense...I mean 10 points, come on now.

 

[Risen Star]

You think Gisele would ever sleep with Cooper Rush?

C'mon, bro.

 

[Nova]

I keep seeing that handing the reigns to Dak instead of back to Romo was the wrong move…

Whatever your thoughts are on Dak, Romo was done.

I love Romo as much as anyone, but there’s a reason why he didn’t play for another NFL team after Dak took over— he was done.

 

[Cowboyny]

Now Cooper Rush is the next Tom Brady? The Dak hate on this board is beyond ridiculous.

 

[mardwin]

if Dak doesn't play next two weeks and we go 1-1, then maybe...so far rush doesn't have a win against a team with a winning record. its been run game and defense...I mean 10 points, come on now.

I guess the Giants W don't count.

 

[FaSho]

Rush is a good game manager who knows his limitations, but he's nowhere near as good as Dak IMO.

Put the 2 of them together and that would be a heckuva QB though lol

 

[jterrell]

Why do we keep comparing Rush to Brady.

Rush is what he is. He is a good bus driver that keeps TO's down, and sustains drives enough to keep the defensive fresh. If we have to put points on the board, he isnt someone we can count on. In 4 games, 25 points is the most we have scored with him

Yea, comparing Rush to Brady is hilarious.
Brady is a one off in the history of the game.

Dak and Brady are far more similar(yet still not close at all) after being mid to late draft picks and then taking over for franchise guys after injury.

Rush has been very impressive for a back up but Dak won 13 games as a rookie with 3 more years of team control at peanuts.
Any owner or coach would have moved from Romo to Dak.
It was common sense. Romo was 35 and had recurring back issues and could only practice a couple times per week.
He made a fortune versus the cap and Dallas had a young, cheap healthy QB.

Certainly, they may have let Romo run that playoff stretch but the long-term writing was on the wall.
And it's not like Dak was at any fault for that playoff loss. He passed for over 300 yards and 3 TDs with a QB rating over 100 as Dallas scored 31 points.
Rodgers just did even more.

 

[offlimits]

You think Gisele would ever sleep with Cooper Rush?

C'mon, bro.

Gisele is WAY overrated TBH.

 

[silvernblu]

The Patriots won the Super Bowl with Brady while Bledsoe was out. How in the world would going back to Bledsoe after that have even been an option?

In Dallas, Bledsoe was never meant to be the long term answer, plus Romo was being groomed to start, and Bledsoe was playing poorly at the time. The change had to come at some point.

How can we say staying with Dak was the wrong move in 2016? We don't know how it would have gone if Romo had been put back in as the starting QB. There was certainly no history to tell us things would have gone differently. I'm not saying Romo wouldn't have been better - he may or may not have been - but we have no way to know. What the team did know was Romo was 36 years old, had sustained injuries that kept him out a long time 3 of the previous 4 times he had played a game (including the preseason game in 2016), and that Dak appeared to be a possible long term solution. The team could have justified either choice.

As for the current situation, I'm certainly pleased with what Rush has done, and I'm not opposed to replacing Dak if the right opportunity were there, but Rush has not been thought of as an eventual replacement because he has physical limitations. That doesn't mean he shouldn't be considered to keep playing short term, but he is never going to be viewed as a long term answer the way Romo & Dak were when the decisions were made on them.

Bledsoe was available to start the Super Bowl.

 

[silvernblu]

if Dak doesn't play next two weeks and we go 1-1, then maybe...so far rush doesn't have a win against a team with a winning record. its been run game and defense...I mean 10 points, come on now.

Giants are 3-1. Undefeated except for Cowboys.

Derp.

 

[silvernblu]

Rush is a good game manager who knows his limitations, but he's nowhere near as good as Dak IMO.

Put the 2 of them together and that would be a heckuva QB though lol

Its not Daks upside I question. It’s his downside.

Will he cost us games a bus driver like Rush would win. Simply by being smarter?

 

[OmerV]

Bledsoe was available to start the Super Bowl.

I was thinking he was out for the remainder of the year, but I looked back and found you are right on this.