The Eagles Cap technique?

[Hawkeye0202]

Thread for cap experts (lol)........many posters/ fans question the Eagles are signing so many players to huge contracts vs Stephen Jones struggling with 2-3. Here is the answer.....I think. I guess the question is this a better way for Stephen Jones to sign players?





https://www.profootballrumors.com/2024/05/nfl-contract-details-brown-gholston-phillips-highsmith

Contract Details: Brown, Phillips, Highsmith​

May 12th, 2024 at 9:58pm CST by Ely Allen
The Eagles recently made A.J. Brown the highest-paid wide receiver in NFL history. We already knew a number of details from that incredible contract, but thanks to Will Laws of Sports Illustrated, we now know of a wild detail with unprecedented consequences.
Laws points out that Brown’s deal includes a void year at the end of the contract that will hold a $53.52MM cap hit. This is actually a common contract technique the Eagles have been employing in recent years that allow them a ton of flexibility financially. Several other players have massive voidable cap hits like Jalen Hurts ($97.55MM), DeVonta Smith ($35.78MM), and others.
This likely doesn’t mean that someday the Eagles will suddenly be committing a triple-digit cap figure to players no longer on their roster. That could only happen if they see every contract through to completion. More likely, Philadelphia will be extremely strategic about how long to hold on to those players, cutting them at times that will allow for ideal cap savings. For instance, starting in 2027, the Eagles will be able to cut Brown and receive more in cap savings than they’ll be losing to dead money.

Here are a few other contract details on recent deals around the NFL:

 

[big dog cowboy]

Brown’s deal includes a void year at the end of the contract that will hold a $53.52MM cap hit.

Common practice around the league.

 

[KingCorcoran]

Getting contracts done as soon as practicable sets the price other teams are going to have to meet or exceed. Paying big for both the #1 WR and #2 WR will have top wide receivers asking for even more and significant #2’s asking for big dollars now, as well. Cincy, Minnesota and Dallas, whatever cap strategy they use, are going to be paying big bucks for wide receivers. Philly did the same with their left guard. Top of market and better interior OLs will be demanding the same or more. If teams find themselves in a position they can’t sign someone at a point in time they may end up losing guys they’d like to keep.

 

[CWR]

Thread for cap experts (lol)........many posters/ fans question the Eagles are signing so many players to huge contracts vs Stephen Jones struggling with 2-3. Here is the answer.....I think. I guess the question is this a better way for Stephen Jones to sign players?





https://www.profootballrumors.com/2024/05/nfl-contract-details-brown-gholston-phillips-highsmith

Contract Details: Brown, Phillips, Highsmith​

May 12th, 2024 at 9:58pm CST by Ely Allen
The Eagles recently made A.J. Brown the highest-paid wide receiver in NFL history. We already knew a number of details from that incredible contract, but thanks to Will Laws of Sports Illustrated, we now know of a wild detail with unprecedented consequences.
Laws points out that Brown’s deal includes a void year at the end of the contract that will hold a $53.52MM cap hit. This is actually a common contract technique the Eagles have been employing in recent years that allow them a ton of flexibility financially. Several other players have massive voidable cap hits like Jalen Hurts ($97.55MM), DeVonta Smith ($35.78MM), and others.
This likely doesn’t mean that someday the Eagles will suddenly be committing a triple-digit cap figure to players no longer on their roster. That could only happen if they see every contract through to completion. More likely, Philadelphia will be extremely strategic about how long to hold on to those players, cutting them at times that will allow for ideal cap savings. For instance, starting in 2027, the Eagles will be able to cut Brown and receive more in cap savings than they’ll be losing to dead money.

Here are a few other contract details on recent deals around the NFL:

Yeah it would be cool to see a comparison of void year money tied up amongst different teams. I know we have 2 void years on Daks deal so I'm not sure we do it any differently in that regard.

 

[Redsfan_83]

Getting contracts done as soon as practicable sets the price other teams are going to have to meet or exceed. Paying big for both the #1 WR and #2 WR will have top wide receivers asking for even more and significant #2’s asking for big dollars now, as well. Cincy, Minnesota and Dallas, whatever cap strategy they use, are going to be paying big bucks for wide receivers. Philly did the same with their left guard. Top of market and better interior OLs will be demanding the same or more. If teams find themselves in a position they can’t sign someone at a point in time they may end up losing guys they’d like to keep.

almost sounds like you are suggesting we wait until every other team in the universe sets the bar before the Jones' realize what's going on, lol

 

[Jarntt]

Eagles cap technique:
Step 1 - See can
Step 2 - Kick can down road

There is nothing skilled or fancy about it. Look at the Eagles salaries. One player has a base salary this year over $2M and it's $3M. All teams do it, but the Eagles push every penny possible into outer years and do it more. That's why they lost so many players before last year and needed a little reset and probably why they tanked because they lost their best LBers, DB, depth players and their stud DTs tired down the stretch.

 

[Coogiguy03]

No more deals, let the owners keep the money and buy more yachts. Draft your players and in 4 year, replace them!!!!!!

 

[Coogiguy03]

Eagles cap technique:
Step 1 - See can
Step 2 - Kick can down road

Our Technique:
1- See Can
2 Bash Can in the media
3- Hold a press conference saying these deals take time
4- Make said player the highest paid in history

 

[Jarntt]

Our Technique:
1- See Can
2 Bash Can in the media
3- Hold a press conference saying these deals take time
4- Make said player the highest paid in history

The Jones Boyz seem to have a problem with even the most basic understanding of player acquisition. They only use the draft (which they are very good at) and even within the draft they are too passive and seemingly don't pounce when a trade up is called for. For an NFL team to ignore free agency for so many years in a row is almost unfathomable. The last couple of years I've come around to thinking Stephen is a bigger problem than Jerry. Is it insane that I long for the old Jerry?

 

[Coogiguy03]

The Jones Boyz seem to have a problem with even the most basic understanding of player acquisition. They only use the draft (which they are very good at) and even within the draft they are too passive and seemingly don't pounce when a trade up is called for. For an NFL team to ignore free agency for so many years in a row is almost unfathomable. The last couple of years I've come around to thinking Stephen is a bigger problem than Jerry. Is it insane that I long for the old Jerry?

No but maybe Stephen is sent to us to save us from Jerry???

 

[rambo2]

What's interesting is the Cowboys are able to keep up with the Eagles. The Cowboys won the division last year and are currently co favorites with them to win the division this year.

 

[MyFairLady]

Any idiot knows how the system works. They do it we do it everyone does it. The difference is the eagles have success every now and them.

 

[Fla Cowpoke]

Every team in the league does this...including the Cowboys. Every year we take money from this year and move it into future years. It works because the cap keeps going up. It also allows teams that are in "cap hell" to get out of it in a short period of time. You tank for a year or two and then have money for a new franchise and to sign some vets to make his life easier.

 

[Aerolithe_Lion]

Yeah it would be cool to see a comparison of void year money tied up amongst different teams. I know we have 2 void years on Daks deal so I'm not sure we do it any differently in that regard.

 

[rambo2]

Any idiot knows how the system works. They do it we do it everyone does it. The difference is the eagles have success every now and them.

Are the Cowboys on the verge of success?

 

[phildadon86]

What's interesting is the Cowboys are able to keep up with the Eagles. The Cowboys won the division last year and are currently co favorites with them to win the division this year.

I love how you make it seem the Cowboys won the division based on the quality of the team.

The Eagles imploded. Nothing the Cowboys did other than beat up on sub .500 teams won them the division more than the Eagles messing up.

 

[rambo2]

The Jones Boyz seem to have a problem with even the most basic understanding of player acquisition. They only use the draft (which they are very good at) and even within the draft they are too passive and seemingly don't pounce when a trade up is called for. For an NFL team to ignore free agency for so many years in a row is almost unfathomable. The last couple of years I've come around to thinking Stephen is a bigger problem than Jerry. Is it insane that I long for the old Jerry?

If they only use the draft, how are Hooker, Kendricks, Zeke, Cooks, Chuma, and others on the team?

 

[Aerolithe_Lion]

If they only use the draft, how are Hooker, Kendricks, Zeke, Cooks, Chuma, and others on the team?

FA Bargain bin contract, FA bargain bin contract, FA bargain bin contract, late round pick trade, FA bargain bin contract, and “others”

I don’t think anyone was arguing that you literally have never had a player drafted by a non-Cowboys team in this era. It’s the relativity of it

 

[rambo2]

I love how you make it seem the Cowboys won the division based on the quality of the team.

The Eagles imploded. Nothing the Cowboys did other than beat up on sub .500 teams won them the division more than the Eagles messing up.

Nothing? They did beat the Rams, Lions, and Eagles. They did more than most of the league.

 

[KingCorcoran]

almost sounds like you are suggesting we wait until every other team in the universe sets the bar before the Jones' realize what's going on, lol

Just the opposite. I would not want other teams initiating what players are going to be paid. Hurts was the highest paid quarterback for a very short period of time. Now he’s fourth highest paid, Dak outplayed him, so Hurts is headed for fifth, likely further down than that when Goff, Lawrence, and others have to be signed. At some point it might be prudent to simply get it done with players you know you’d like to keep.