CFZ The future looks bright

75boyz

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Defensively: I think the linebacker trio of Barr, LVE and Cox could need near future upgrades based on their 2023 playing status.
I like the rest.

Offensively: OL possibly needs OT depth if Ball does not show a Steele type improvement.
Replacing the starting RBs could be realistic starting as early as next year.
The unproven WR3s ie Tolbert and Fehoko need to prove themselves vs. starters.

Fingers crossed on the hope approach towards the kicker's second chance not being a regrettable decision.
 

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This is probably going to be a long post as I will touch on several topics.

I think the first thing I want to say is that I am very excited about the young players we have on this team. It starts with the stars like Parsons, Diggs, and Lamb, but carries over to lots of players taken later in the draft or even in free agency. I think we have 2-3 guys at WR that can be really good, we have exciting guys like Dowdle, Davis and Shampklin in the backfield. Guys like Mukuamu, Sam Williams, Jabril Cox, Farniok, Waltezko, Ferguson, Hendershot and a few others makes it seem very promising.

Not just the young guys though, we have some veterans that are in their primes right now....this really should have been the time to roll the dice and go all in. Kearse, Schultz, Martin, Dak, Pollard, and Brown kind of fit the bill here. Even vets that may not be in their primes like Lawrence, Elliott, Barr, Hooker, and a few others. The role players that may never be stars but can be effective like Steele, Biadasz, Lewis, Armstrong, and guys on the DL like Golston, Bohanna and Gallimore.

I really think that this team has a ton of talent, as much as they have had in a long time. But with the talent there are glaring holes. The swing tackle situation has been a train wreck. We knew Tyron wouldn't play a whole season but we went in with the idea that a bunch of late rounds picks could fight it out and take the spot. It was wishful thinking and as usual, things went from shaky to downright crumbling right underneath us. And now we are caught between a rock and a hard place at one of the most important positions on the field. None of the choices seem great. We can throw a raw rookie out there and give him a baptism by fire. We can try switching guys at multiple positions to hopefully get the best 5 out there even if they aren't at their best positions. Or we can try finding a vet that is probably on the downside and hope they can give us a solid year. Never should have got to this point.

WR is also a huge question mark. We let a top 10-15 receiver go and did nothing to adequately replace him. I really think they missed the mark not resigning Wilson. I think he and Lamb would have made a decent pair and then if Gallup comes back healthy the receiving corp would have looked good. I like Tolbert but don't think he is gonna be a big contributor, at least not immediately. Brown might be improved but as a potential starter I am underwhelmed. Washington has been meh his whole career. Fehoko, Brown, Houston and Drummond have potential but that is all it is right now.

Kicker is a concern. I think Maher is better than Hallelujah and the rookie were, but he inspires little confidence until he makes some big kicks and I mean game winners, not necessarily 60 yarders. I think for now he has the job but I would keep looking for better options.

And finally, backup QB. Rush is what he is. A game manager. He can't really challenge you down the field so the passing game basically ends up in a box. I had some hope for Grier but he was Jekyll and Hyde last night. Really bad in the first half, much better in the second. Overall, not too excited. For the first time, DiNucci looked like he knew what he was doing. From the small sample, I'd say go with him over the other two.

Moving toward the season, I think the absolute must is finding a Tackle that can step in and play. Pretty much all of the available candidates have warts, but they are smaller warts than what we have now. Whitworth would be a dream, but Fisher or Peters would be ok I think. Not sure who is available on other team's rosters that we could consider a trade for, but how many teams are 4 good tackles deep?

The guys like Dak, Lawrence, Brown, Martin deserve the GM doing everything he can to give them a chance to win. Or it can just be another era of wasted talent like we have with Romo, Witten, Dez, and many others.
All of this is great, but every successful team has great leadership.
We don't have that.
Jerry has proven he is not skilled enough as GM and will not step out of the way and hire a competent GM.
Until then we are going to be stuck, just like we have been for the past 27 years.
Jerry knows just enough to keep us competitive, but is not good enough to get us over the hump.
 

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Farniok? LOL

What has Farniok every done? The big mystery player that has never done anything that EVERY year is going to beat out Biadasz and it never happens. Heck they even had Mcgovern starting at center last night. AT this point, Farniok is nothing more than a scrub project.

There is NO future until we fix this Oline.
Farniok played every bit as good last night as we who've been paying actual attention as Biadasz. Neither one is head and shoulders better than the other.
I'm sure Biadasz will still be the starter though.
 

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The young talent on defense looks brighter than it has but I think we’re going struggle offensively. I don’t think the offense is going to be near as good as what we’ve had. The defense is going to have to continue getting takeaways. We’ve played nothing but young players during the preseason and I’ve seen a lot more promise on the defense than the offense. I’m very concerned about our offense.

:hammer:.....Questions abound on offense. It just doesn't feel like we have enough weapons to scare people. Zeke is completely over-rated. Lamb....big question mark as the lead guy. And yet the biggest question is the O-line....going into the season. Just feels like we have zero depth to withstand injuries. Tyron goes down...and it's already panic time. That's how fragile this franchise is...
 

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Newton mentioned Farniok last night. There have been multiple people with NFL experience saying he looks decent. McGovern getting some center time was planned before Tyron got hurt. Could allow you to have McGovern as the game day backup at all three interior positions. I think Farniok has a future.

based on what?
 

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Farniok played every bit as good last night as we who've been paying actual attention as Biadasz. Neither one is head and shoulders better than the other.
I'm sure Biadasz will still be the starter though.
Biadasz plays against Hargrove. And your scrub loser plays against 3rd string scrubs. Lol


You people are lost. 2 years running.
 

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The fact you don't like him makes me feel even better about his future.

What has he done? He was a late round pick last year and looks like he could step right in if called upon. Can't prove yourself till opportunity knocks
Lol….,yah because I’ve been dead right so far.
You remain lost!
 

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Go back and watch him against the Eagles last year when they let him play.

Played outstanding.

you mean against 3rd string eagles guys when he ran over the same 3rd string safety? #30?
 

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Farniok? LOL

What has Farniok every done? The big mystery player that has never done anything that EVERY year is going to beat out Biadasz and it never happens. Heck they even had Mcgovern starting at center last night. AT this point, Farniok is nothing more than a scrub project.

There is NO future until we fix this Oline.

Every year? He’s just finished his 2nd pre-season.
 

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Farniok played every bit as good last night as we who've been paying actual attention as Biadasz. Neither one is head and shoulders better than the other.
I'm sure Biadasz will still be the starter though.
Are you aware McGovern started over your hero?
 

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I was happy that Maher made all his kicks last night, well, except for the 61 yarder. But, it seems to me he looks better than when he was here before.
He didn't really miss a lot. It's just that the ones he missed were usually badly timed.
 

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Look at the Rams and their top veterans:
  • Stafford
  • Donald
  • Ramsey
  • Kupp
  • Floyd
  • Wagner

Then look at ours:
  • Dak
  • Martin
  • D-Law
  • Zeke
  • Smith
  • Shultz
We simply aren’t getting value. Until we start doing better signing our guys for what they are worth and identifying outside free agents we’re not going to be competitive no matter how well we draft.
 

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Farniok? LOL

What has Farniok every done? The big mystery player that has never done anything that EVERY year is going to beat out Biadasz and it never happens. Heck they even had Mcgovern starting at center last night. AT this point, Farniok is nothing more than a scrub project.

There is NO future until we fix this Oline.
Well Farniok has only been here one year, so I dont understand the "every" year reference.
 

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This is probably going to be a long post as I will touch on several topics.

I think the first thing I want to say is that I am very excited about the young players we have on this team. It starts with the stars like Parsons, Diggs, and Lamb, but carries over to lots of players taken later in the draft or even in free agency. I think we have 2-3 guys at WR that can be really good, we have exciting guys like Dowdle, Davis and Shampklin in the backfield. Guys like Mukuamu, Sam Williams, Jabril Cox, Farniok, Waltezko, Ferguson, Hendershot and a few others makes it seem very promising.

Not just the young guys though, we have some veterans that are in their primes right now....this really should have been the time to roll the dice and go all in. Kearse, Schultz, Martin, Dak, Pollard, and Brown kind of fit the bill here. Even vets that may not be in their primes like Lawrence, Elliott, Barr, Hooker, and a few others. The role players that may never be stars but can be effective like Steele, Biadasz, Lewis, Armstrong, and guys on the DL like Golston, Bohanna and Gallimore.

I really think that this team has a ton of talent, as much as they have had in a long time. But with the talent there are glaring holes. The swing tackle situation has been a train wreck. We knew Tyron wouldn't play a whole season but we went in with the idea that a bunch of late rounds picks could fight it out and take the spot. It was wishful thinking and as usual, things went from shaky to downright crumbling right underneath us. And now we are caught between a rock and a hard place at one of the most important positions on the field. None of the choices seem great. We can throw a raw rookie out there and give him a baptism by fire. We can try switching guys at multiple positions to hopefully get the best 5 out there even if they aren't at their best positions. Or we can try finding a vet that is probably on the downside and hope they can give us a solid year. Never should have got to this point.

WR is also a huge question mark. We let a top 10-15 receiver go and did nothing to adequately replace him. I really think they missed the mark not resigning Wilson. I think he and Lamb would have made a decent pair and then if Gallup comes back healthy the receiving corp would have looked good. I like Tolbert but don't think he is gonna be a big contributor, at least not immediately. Brown might be improved but as a potential starter I am underwhelmed. Washington has been meh his whole career. Fehoko, Brown, Houston and Drummond have potential but that is all it is right now.

Kicker is a concern. I think Maher is better than Hallelujah and the rookie were, but he inspires little confidence until he makes some big kicks and I mean game winners, not necessarily 60 yarders. I think for now he has the job but I would keep looking for better options.

And finally, backup QB. Rush is what he is. A game manager. He can't really challenge you down the field so the passing game basically ends up in a box. I had some hope for Grier but he was Jekyll and Hyde last night. Really bad in the first half, much better in the second. Overall, not too excited. For the first time, DiNucci looked like he knew what he was doing. From the small sample, I'd say go with him over the other two.

Moving toward the season, I think the absolute must is finding a Tackle that can step in and play. Pretty much all of the available candidates have warts, but they are smaller warts than what we have now. Whitworth would be a dream, but Fisher or Peters would be ok I think. Not sure who is available on other team's rosters that we could consider a trade for, but how many teams are 4 good tackles deep?

The guys like Dak, Lawrence, Brown, Martin deserve the GM doing everything he can to give them a chance to win. Or it can just be another era of wasted talent like we have with Romo, Witten, Dez, and many others.
Whitworth is 42. But good post.
 

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All of this is great, but every successful team has great leadership.
We don't have that.
Jerry has proven he is not skilled enough as GM and will not step out of the way and hire a competent GM.
Until then we are going to be stuck, just like we have been for the past 27 years.
Jerry knows just enough to keep us competitive, but is not good enough to get us over the hump.
So you’ve given up until the Jones are gone?
 
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