The genius of Howie Roseman

Hawkeye0202 · 2025-02-04T09:35:59-0600

Stephen Jones should be sitting with Howie right now with pen and pad (lol)

CalPolyTechnique · 2025-02-04T09:37:08-0600

I've been told Roseman has been doing all wrong by our fans.

Beats_By_Zeke · 2025-02-04T09:48:23-0600

kind of moot isn't it? They just pushing the cap hit down the road, correct?

MyFairLady · 2025-02-04T09:53:32-0600

Beats_By_Zeke said:
kind of moot isn't it? They just pushing the cap hit down the road, correct?

Sure they are but they are playing in the Super Bowl again as well.

Hawkeye0202 · 2025-02-04T09:57:08-0600

Beats_By_Zeke said:
kind of moot isn't it? They just pushing the cap hit down the road, correct?

You would think other teams, mostly the Cowboys, would admit he's doing something right, and I need to adjust my system. It's foolish not to least compare their success against what you are doing.

John813 · 2025-02-04T09:58:16-0600

Beats_By_Zeke said:
kind of moot isn't it? They just pushing the cap hit down the road, correct?

Eagles do restructure, but are better at not keeping players past their effectiveness.

With Hurts though, they did his deal so there's a 97mil dead cap hit from options in void years starting in 2029.
So, it was pre-designed to be a deal acting like a restructured deal at the end of the contract without the yearly restructuring.

Hawkeye0202 · 2025-02-04T09:58:42-0600

MyFairLady said:
Sure they are but they are playing in the Super Bowl again as well.

Exactly ...........no one cares, it got them to the Super Bowl.

CCBoy · 2025-02-04T09:59:53-0600

Current Head Coach for 5 years.
Present QB for 5 years.
Current Director for Scouting for 5 years.

We shall see how this ends up...

jazzcat22 · 2025-02-04T10:01:33-0600

CalPolyTechnique said:
I've been told Roseman has been doing all wrong by our fans.

Not so sure about that. This place seems to have more Eagles fans than Cowboys fans.

Obviously he is doing something much better than Jerry though. And those fans can acknowledge Howie has been great.
Those yes saying Howie is wrong, are wvong themselves.

He is the con man that Jerry thinks he, himself is. The big difference, Howie cons other GM's into these great trades. Jerry only wants to con the fans into them thinking Jerry is going great.

Yes, I can find criticism in the truth.

Hawkeye0202 · 2025-02-04T10:01:44-0600

John813 said:
With Hurts though, they did his deal so there's a 97mil dead cap hit from options in void years starting in 2029.
So, it was pre-designed to be a deal acting like a restructured deal at the end of the contract without the yearly restructuring.

I don't understand a word of this and don't care. Hurts is playing in the Super Bowl with a team stacked with talent. So whatever Howie is doing, it's working. lol

Nova · 2025-02-04T10:03:08-0600

Beats_By_Zeke said:
kind of moot isn't it? They just pushing the cap hit down the road, correct?

The Eagles have been good about understanding how to capitalize on a window.

They know it's going to hurt in the future, but that's what it takes to have a real shot. Also, they're going to mitigate the length of the pain of cap hell by releasing and trading guys later.

Our FO has no feel for these things.

John813 · 2025-02-04T10:03:17-0600

Hawkeye0202 said:
I don't understand a word of this and don't care. Hurts is playing in the Super Bowl with a team stacked with talent. So whatever Howie is doing, it's working. lol

I agree. He's done a great job at managing the cap for the foreseeable future.

stilltheguru · 2025-02-04T10:04:03-0600

Yes it's genius to surround a mid qb with an elite oline and an elite defense. Jerry and Stephen think the eagles are in the bowl because of AJ brown and Smith I'm sure. Hurts 100 yard passing playoff games sure made the difference

Sydla · 2025-02-04T10:07:19-0600

CalPolyTechnique said:
I've been told Roseman has been doing all wrong by our fans.

Uh our owner and his son have said this as well.

Roseman has figured out the balance between pushing money into future years while also not crippling the franchise for long stretches. Jerry and his sack of sweet potatoes of a son have been saying for 8 years that the Eagles will have to pay a price at some point.

And yet all the Eagles have done is make 3 SBs, win one and are poised to win another one. I wish Dallas was as poorly run as Philly.

PS - Yes, there is probably a point that the Eagles will have to massive retool but that cost was worth it considering the run they have been on. The difference between Jerry and Lurie/Roseman is they are willing to take risks to reach uber heights. Jerry and his son are risk adverse, they want to limit the potential downside but it stunts the potential upside. In other words, they are chicken **** owners at this point.

JustChip · 2025-02-04T10:07:40-0600

Beats_By_Zeke said:
kind of moot isn't it? They just pushing the cap hit down the road, correct?

It’s only a problem if the players don’t last to the end or near end if the cap amortization. The problem with Dallas is they extend players that are not likely to last that long. Romo’s dead cap hit was an anchor for this team and Dak’s is very likely to be the same.

KingCorcoran · 2025-02-04T10:09:00-0600

Hawkeye0202 said:
You would think other teams, mostly the Cowboys, would admit he's doing something right, and I need to adjust my system. It's foolish not to least compare their success against what you are doing.

The bill does come due, at some point, for all teams. Dak’s big contract offers opportunity to open up cap space through restructure. The Cowboys need only decide how and who they want to proceed and adjust accordingly. It is not the disaster fans, and the Jones’, act like it is. The lack of a definitive plan going forward is the bigger concern.

The Hurts deal aroused the ire of Eagles fans much the same as Prescott’s has Cowboys fans. The difference is the other 52 players. Roseman is more courageous than genius. That team still needs to account for all that compensation eventually.

Hawkeye0202 · 2025-02-04T10:09:05-0600

John813 said:
I agree. He's done a great job at managing the cap for the foreseeable future.

But you make a good point that the Eagles know when to cut the cord and move on. Another thing, Howie is always looking for upgrades to all positions, and once he sees it he finds a way to make it happen regardless of contracts.

thunderpimp91 · 2025-02-04T10:09:33-0600

I think this is more of a the Cowboys are cheap thing than it is a Philly is smart thing. Certainly both parts of that exist to some extent, but Philly spent $328M in cash this year vs Dallas $280M (and that is with huge signing bonuses to Lamb/Prescott). There are a ton of cap breaks if you throw money at the problem. This in theory should be a major advantage that the #1 revenue team in the league should have, but I think Jerry/Stephen weaponize the cap to not have to spend as much cash.

Hawkeye0202 · 2025-02-04T10:12:06-0600

JustChip said:
The problem with Dallas is they extend players that are not likely to last that long.

LOL ...and not good enough to last that long BUT they still force coaches to play them as viable starters

RFABR · 2025-02-04T10:12:52-0600

He didn't yet discovered our recipe for success. Poor guy.

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