The GM is getting just what he deserves

[CouchCoach]

A Cowboys in a number 88 jersey caught 2 TDs on Sunday. This my friends is priority #1.

He needed to catch 2 more or his D give up 2 less.

 

[glimmerman]

We knew the D would be problematic but few thought it would be this bad.

The QB is not the problem and the O is putting up a whopping 32 points a game but giving up a whoppier 36.5.

And this brings up the question of the game plan now. They just about have to go into it assuming the D is going to give up 35 to a good offense. They won't have that problem with the Giants this week, it takes them 3 games to get to 35.

If I am the HC and DC, I have to ask myself "what's going to change"? Getting some players back would surely help but when and how healthy? But the real problem is the other issue.

The other issue the coaches must face is the results of the film. Two previous weeks, those OC's saw the holes in the pass D, last week, that OC saw the huge hole in the run D. As the HC, can you fix both or fix one without making the other weaker and it's OC's choice now on any good offense. It is not the norm for a poor D to be so poor at both.

Being the giants lost there rb. I would shore up the pass Defense. I heard people saying we are playing a lot of 2 LB sets and our cover scheme is confusing the DBs. Why not just try the stuff we can do now and work on harder stuff in practice. The giants are going to run on us anyways so don’t give up the big plays. Looks like marinelli scheme wasn’t as bad. I hate saying that. His prevent sucked, but keeping the stuff in front and not giving up the big play maybe what we need.

 

[cern]

i can only say how awestruck i am at the firestorm of offensive scoring unleased by mac's predecessor in new york.

 

[CouchCoach]

I heard Shaun Shariff this morning on the fan say that he was told by a source recently someone that he trusts that the cowboys front office was not even interested in Mike McCarthy until Jay Glazer had a long talk with Stephen Jones.

In the past I would have had a fairly passionate response to that. Now it makes complete sense to me. Nobody in the front office here knows what kind of team they are trying to build or how to do it. They just wing it and then promote the hell out of whatever decisions they flipped a coin on.

it would have been fun though if they hire Jay Glazer as head coach.

To top that off, Booger knew so little about McC that he asked Garrett about him and was told "you're gonna like Mike".

I think that letting Garrett walk was the single worst thing that Booger has had to endure since he bought the team. He envisioned a Landryesque career for Garrett as his guy and one that understood him and his needs so well. I think he was half-assed about hiring the next guy and just wanted to get it done. McC was an easy sell as the only real vet available and he has already said he was going in that direction. McC was a safe choice and the local media approved.

Mike, when the difference between failure and success is negligible monetarily, it is easy to be complacent and not have a plan. Booger knows they're going to talk about his Cowboys and him regardless.

 

[MikeB80]

To top that off, Booger knew so little about McC that he asked Garrett about him and was told "you're gonna like Mike".

I think that letting Garrett walk was the single worst thing that Booger has had to endure since he bought the team. He envisioned a Landryesque career for Garrett as his guy and one that understood him and his needs so well. I think he was half-assed about hiring the next guy and just wanted to get it done. McC was an easy sell as the only real vet available and he has already said he was going in that direction. McC was a safe choice and the local media approved.

Mike, when the difference between failure and success is negligible monetarily, it is easy to be complacent and not have a plan. Booger knows they're going to talk about his Cowboys and him regardless.

The local media approves of everything they do. There is never any pushback on anything. They basically just repeat what the cowboys PR wants them to.

 

[Bobhaze]

We are just witnesses but this is all by design and the result of consciously planning this.

First off, let me say that after Rivera was gone, McC was my choice but I made an assumption that has not come to be yet. I assumed that he spent that year off, after being fired, in introspection and seeing just why his successor took his team to the NFCCG except for 3 changes on his team, the Smith's and Amos, the best FA D haul since FA began.

The GM decided on a passing HC for a run first team. Say what you will about his predecessor but he understood what this team was built to do. He was a running HC, he learned the game that way and he'd try to stay with that to a fault. But he knew the strength of his team as well as the need to protect the weakness.

The GM is so infatuated with the passing game and wants one of those high octane offenses that he spent his 1st pick on a luxury item at WR and the excuse here is "ya gotta take him at 17". Nothing against Lamb, he's a good player, but 7 other GM's passed him by for a D player and 4 for an OL. He used the pick on an O skill position on the #1 O in the league with a mediocre D and aging and disintegrating OL.

That's like being out of food and giving someone money to go to the store and they return with a new pretty watch. He is too enamored with himself and his own ego to be making that pick.

Let the best pass rusher and cover CB walk and give the WR1 20M after giving the RB 15M. Now all he needed was a HC to showcase his toys and who better than a WCO guy with two HOF QB's.

The problem with the team was the HC had been there too long and the stories were getting old and the defense was always an afterthought, both in coaching and player acquisition. So he hires a passing HC who hires a journeyman DC with little to his credit. Problem not fixed, problem disregarded.


You are not getting what you deserve, you deserve better for your support. But this GM deserves exactly what he is getting because it's all by design. Won't happen but there was another Texas GM that needed to take a walk. The one that always gets what he wants.

Well said as usual my friend.

What baffles me to no end is how much more our fan base gets angry at the players and coaches, while still buying tickets and jerseys from the 78 year old huckster who builds a fantasy football team every year for the "sizzle" and expects us all to buy it. Jerry is like the drunk billionaire standing at the craps table rolling the dice over and over, cocksure that one of these times hes going to roll boxcars. It's no way to run a professional sports team supposedly dedicated to winning championships.

And as you said Coach, our loyal fans deserve better than this. While other teams' front office brass are working their tails off to get better, ours is planning the next boxing match, tractor pull or concert for the "stayjum", because they have "lifetime contracts" regardless of their lack of on-field success. The Jones cartel deserves every embarrassment coming their way. I want the Cowboys to win. But at least when they don't, I can relish the shot of the owners box where he looks like the evil Star Wars overlord Palpatine inside his "death star".

 

[ClappingCarrot]

If the Joneses were so gung ho on keeping Kellen, I think they should have hired a defensive minded coach.

 

[MikeB80]

If the Joneses were so gung ho on keeping Kellen, I think they should have hired a defensive minded coach.

Its my opinion that this organization should alway hire a defensive coach as head coach. They have a knack for finding offensive players historically and the league is built on teams scoring racking up a ton of yards.

A defensive minded, obsessive compulsive about details who doesn't shower everyone with praise including the front office is really I think what they should always hire.

 

[CouchCoach]

i can only say how awestruck i am at the firestorm of offensive scoring released by mac's predecessor in new york.

Did you expect much? I surely didn't. Not even sure that was even Judge's idea, Mara is a Garrett fan. Even more than Ranching.

And I disagree with Jazzcat, Garrett is a run coach and may be reason Judge hired him as OC. The problem is he lost the best pure RB in the game.

All of Garrett's background is the run, Norv Turner, Nick Saban and I've always thought a lot of that passing coach stuff was because of giving Romo a run or pass play and Romo used to get played by DC's all the time. They wanted the ball in his hands, not the RB's.

 

[stilltheguru]

We are just witnesses but this is all by design and the result of consciously planning this.

First off, let me say that after Rivera was gone, McC was my choice but I made an assumption that has not come to be yet. I assumed that he spent that year off, after being fired, in introspection and seeing just why his successor took his team to the NFCCG except for 3 changes on his team, the Smith's and Amos, the best FA D haul since FA began.

The GM decided on a passing HC for a run first team. Say what you will about his predecessor but he understood what this team was built to do. He was a running HC, he learned the game that way and he'd try to stay with that to a fault. But he knew the strength of his team as well as the need to protect the weakness.

The GM is so infatuated with the passing game and wants one of those high octane offenses that he spent his 1st pick on a luxury item at WR and the excuse here is "ya gotta take him at 17". Nothing against Lamb, he's a good player, but 7 other GM's passed him by for a D player and 4 for an OL. He used the pick on an O skill position on the #1 O in the league with a mediocre D and aging and disintegrating OL.

That's like being out of food and giving someone money to go to the store and they return with a new pretty watch. He is too enamored with himself and his own ego to be making that pick.

Let the best pass rusher and cover CB walk and give the WR1 20M after giving the RB 15M. Now all he needed was a HC to showcase his toys and who better than a WCO guy with two HOF QB's.

The problem with the team was the HC had been there too long and the stories were getting old and the defense was always an afterthought, both in coaching and player acquisition. So he hires a passing HC who hires a journeyman DC with little to his credit. Problem not fixed, problem disregarded.

You are not getting what you deserve, you deserve better for your support. But this GM deserves exactly what he is getting because it's all by design. Won't happen but there was another Texas GM that needed to take a walk. The one that always gets what he wants.

The wannabe scouts on here always say take BPA. Jerry is just doing what all the smart people do. lol

 

[TwistedL0g1k]

I'm more critical of the decision to trade a #1 for Cooper, than I am of drafting Lamb with a #1. Salary cap management matters.

Agree that the real problem here is the GM. The defense has been well below championship level for a long long time.

 

[CouchCoach]

Its my opinion that this organization should alway hire a defensive coach as head coach. They have a knack for finding offensive players historically and the league is built on teams scoring racking up a ton of yards.

A defensive minded, obsessive compulsive about details who doesn't shower everyone with praise including the front office is really I think what they should always hire.

I would have preferred Rivera of all the candidates I was aware of but Snyder was on him the week he got canned.

In the Cowboys history, what backgrounds have best served with coaching, offense or defense. Hint: Landry, Johnson and Parcells.

 

[MikeB80]

Did you expect much? I surely didn't. Not even sure that was even Judge's idea, Mara is a Garrett fan. Even more than Ranching.

And I disagree with Jazzcat, Garrett is a run coach and may be reason Judge hired him as OC. The problem is he lost the best pure RB in the game.

All of Garrett's background is the run, Norv Turner, Nick Saban and I've always thought a lot of that passing coach stuff was because of giving Romo a run or pass play and Romo used to get played by DC's all the time. They wanted the ball in his hands, not the RB's.

lol what? Romo got played by DC's all the time? for our entertainment please explain this statement with examples.

Also he never had a running game he could just turn and give the ball to and get positive results. Either the line was banged up and struggling or the backs were injured for years. When the line and backs were healthy and playing well the team was great in those years particularly 2014 and 2009

Your statement about what the Defensive Coordinators wanted is the opposite of the truth. In fact I remember Jim Johnson in Philadelphia and Greg Blache in washington talking about how dangerous romo was and how they had plans to make him role to his left because that was his weakness.....then he burned all of them rolling left.

 

[cern]

I would have preferred Rivera of all the candidates I was aware of but Snyder was on him the week he got canned.

In the Cowboys history, what backgrounds have best served with coaching, offense or defense. Hint: Landry, Johnson and Parcells.

landry and johnson had great offenses as well. only parcells did not. and that was not by choice.

 

[CouchCoach]

The wannabe scouts on here always say take BPA. Jerry is just doing what all the smart people do. lol

In that case, you are correct. Lamb was the highest remaining player and I wouldn't have had a problem with it had they not just signed one for 20M and had so much needed on defense. Was there a player on D or the OL left that was as good as Lamb? No, don't think so but the good GM's realize it's not about picking the players, it's about building the team. A concept that still escapes this GM.

 

[Diehardblues]

We are just witnesses but this is all by design and the result of consciously planning this.

First off, let me say that after Rivera was gone, McC was my choice but I made an assumption that has not come to be yet. I assumed that he spent that year off, after being fired, in introspection and seeing just why his successor took his team to the NFCCG except for 3 changes on his team, the Smith's and Amos, the best FA D haul since FA began.

The GM decided on a passing HC for a run first team. Say what you will about his predecessor but he understood what this team was built to do. He was a running HC, he learned the game that way and he'd try to stay with that to a fault. But he knew the strength of his team as well as the need to protect the weakness.

The GM is so infatuated with the passing game and wants one of those high octane offenses that he spent his 1st pick on a luxury item at WR and the excuse here is "ya gotta take him at 17". Nothing against Lamb, he's a good player, but 7 other GM's passed him by for a D player and 4 for an OL. He used the pick on an O skill position on the #1 O in the league with a mediocre D and aging and disintegrating OL.

That's like being out of food and giving someone money to go to the store and they return with a new pretty watch. He is too enamored with himself and his own ego to be making that pick.

Let the best pass rusher and cover CB walk and give the WR1 20M after giving the RB 15M. Now all he needed was a HC to showcase his toys and who better than a WCO guy with two HOF QB's.

The problem with the team was the HC had been there too long and the stories were getting old and the defense was always an afterthought, both in coaching and player acquisition. So he hires a passing HC who hires a journeyman DC with little to his credit. Problem not fixed, problem disregarded.

You are not getting what you deserve, you deserve better for your support. But this GM deserves exactly what he is getting because it's all by design. Won't happen but there was another Texas GM that needed to take a walk. The one that always gets what he wants.

Well done CC!!

 

[CouchCoach]

lol what? Romo got played by DC's all the time? for our entertainment please explain this statement with examples.

Also he never had a running game he could just turn and give the ball to and get positive results. Either the line was banged up and struggling or the backs were injured for years. When the line and backs were healthy and playing well the team was great in those years particularly 2014 and 2009

Your statement about what the Defensive Coordinators wanted is the opposite of the truth. In fact I remember Jim Johnson in Philadelphia and Greg Blache in washington talking about how dangerous romo was and how they had plans to make him role to his left because that was his weakness.....then he burned all of them rolling left.

Many DC's used the 8th in the box fake to get him to check out of the run. The Skins did it so much in one game, I counted 20 times, that they only ran the ball 11 times with Barber and Phillips was so clueless the media had to tell him.

Romo was that high risk/reward QB so 1 of those 3 things that can happen when they pass was more likely to happen with him and he was known to make mistakes at crucial times as well as plays.

Sorry Mike, pregame talk about coaches heaping praise on players they're facing doesn't work for me. Listen to the Cowboys coaches talk admiringly about Daniel Jones this week on their call. He's the break they've been waiting for.

 

[Vanilla2]

Are we not entertained!?

 

[MikeB80]

Many DC's used the 8th in the box fake to get him to check out of the run. The Skins did it so much in one game, I counted 20 times, that they only ran the ball 11 times with Barber and Phillips was so clueless the media had to tell him.

Romo was that high risk/reward QB so 1 of those 3 things that can happen when they pass was more likely to happen with him and he was known to make mistakes at crucial times as well as plays.

Sorry Mike, pregame talk about coaches heaping praise on players they're facing doesn't work for me. Listen to the Cowboys coaches talk admiringly about Daniel Jones this week on their call. He's the break they've been waiting for.

Yes so you are using one game. The 08 game vs the Commanders at home as proof of Romo being faked! Go check how romo played against the skins in the previous meeting. They couldn't run the ball that day for a number of reasons. Romo wasnt faked out of play calls. He was changing them because he was trying to make the offense productive. In the next meeting at washington, a critical game where romo returned from injury they had a hard time on offense to. Those were good defenses in the gibbs years in washington and then for the one year after he left in 08. Tough physical defense with a good group of linebackers and front 7 players. Dallas simply could not lineup and run the ball against them.

Pregame talk about players? Please. High risk high reward? The 07 and 08 cowboys offense was full throttle vertical passing attack. That was their game.

My recommendation is instead of relying on false stereotypes go back and watch the games.

also you used the term MANY in regards to defensive coordinators using the 8 man in the box to fake out Romo. Where are all these examples? Are you deion sanders by chance who said the cowboys offense specifically Romo was dead and the DC's told him they would KILL him after OWENS left? How did that work out in 09?

 

[CouchCoach]

Are we not entertained!?

Absolutely, this is the damnedest Cowboys team I have ever watched. The TD's don't matter, only the last one.

I don't have the record book but has any team in history averaged 32pf and 36.5pa?

The 2020 Dallas Cowboys are more must watch TV than the Greatest Show on Turf and the Patriots perfect season...almost.