The GM, the most important position in a NFL Franchise

rambo2

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Look at the teams who have been excluded from the NFL Championship game the longest. I think Dallas is is among the 5 worst in the league. This really tells the GM story.
That could all change next year. They sure look like they will be in the mix again.
 

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1. GM hires the coaches.
2. GM signs off on the draft choices.
3. GM selects the free agents from other teams and determines which of your own
you let walk or keep.
4. GM sets the tone for the culture and Identity of the Team.
5. GM makes the shrewd trades.
6. GM oversees picking the right UDFAs.

So the quality and football acumen of the GM really determines how good/bad your team is.
If you don't get that position right, it's really difficult to overcome in such a competitive League.
100%

And we have one of the worst in the NFL. Its a part time gig for him.
 

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If he hired a better coaching staff, we would have won atleast two Superbowls in the last 10 years.
He has an awesome coaching staff. Quinn is certainly one of the best and McCarthy has a chance at a 2nd Super Bowl
 

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I think Jerry has done a great job with the draft and UDFA.
I think he has some work to do in the other areas.
What say you?
JJ doesn't handle personnel. Will McCLay does. Not saying JJ doesn't have input, but McClay is assembling the talent. He's been doing an excellent job of it for years.
 

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Jerry obviously does not have the appropriate background to be a NFL GM , but here we are as fans, hostage year 28 and counting.
Comments like this drive me nuts. Let's say that YOU wanted to be a GM and you had the same background Jones came from (good college player who surrounded himself with talent like Johnson when he entered the league).

What kind of GM are you in year 1? Probably not very good, but you make it your life - just like Jones has - and you want to get better.

Year 2? You're still observing and learning, but if you have a brain, you're starting to get the idea. you still have no business being the GM of an NFL team, but your journey has just begun.

Year 5? Now you've watched some very good people do their job. You've got a good handle on many of the things a GM does that fans don't even think about.

Year 10? If you don't know how to do the job after 10 years, something is wrong with you. There are very few jobs on this planet that I'm not going to be good at after 10 years of otj training. Not saying I'd be the best in the world, but I'd be good at my job, and that's even if I started with zero experience at all.

Year 20? See Year 10, but with 10 more years of experience.

Jones has surrounded himself with some great talent and he's no fool. Most people don't even know the scope of the job of an NFL GM. Fans want a QB that can rival Mahomes. They want a coach like Reid or whoever. These people don't grow on trees. I read somewhere on the forum that a poster thought it was a good idea to tank to get a better QB when there's absolutely no evidence that even getting the #1 overall pick would achieve that goal.

Yes, I get it. We want playoff success. It's been a long time. Playoff success starts with regular season success. We've had two straight years of that, but we just don't have the personnel. We addressed the defensive side of the ball with some pretty good success. Now we need to bolster the O-line, get a running attack, and bring in some WRs that can get some separation. We saw what Purdy did, which is exactly what Dak did in 2016 except for not getting to the NFCCG.

The question now is: Can we get Dak to take a team friendly deal that will allow us to surround him with the talent he needs to succeed? If he won't take a deal like $40MM over 5-6 years (that will be a bargain in 2025), we need to move on. Teams that allow the QB to eat up a large portion of the cap just don't have team success. That's where we are now, but it isn't where we have to stay.
 

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Comments like this drive me nuts. Let's say that YOU wanted to be a GM and you had the same background Jones came from (good college player who surrounded himself with talent like Johnson when he entered the league).

What kind of GM are you in year 1? Probably not very good, but you make it your life - just like Jones has - and you want to get better.

Year 2? You're still observing and learning, but if you have a brain, you're starting to get the idea. you still have no business being the GM of an NFL team, but your journey has just begun.

Year 5? Now you've watched some very good people do their job. You've got a good handle on many of the things a GM does that fans don't even think about.

Year 10? If you don't know how to do the job after 10 years, something is wrong with you. There are very few jobs on this planet that I'm not going to be good at after 10 years of otj training. Not saying I'd be the best in the world, but I'd be good at my job, and that's even if I started with zero experience at all.

Year 20? See Year 10, but with 10 more years of experience.

Jones has surrounded himself with some great talent and he's no fool. Most people don't even know the scope of the job of an NFL GM. Fans want a QB that can rival Mahomes. They want a coach like Reid or whoever. These people don't grow on trees. I read somewhere on the forum that a poster thought it was a good idea to tank to get a better QB when there's absolutely no evidence that even getting the #1 overall pick would achieve that goal.

Yes, I get it. We want playoff success. It's been a long time. Playoff success starts with regular season success. We've had two straight years of that, but we just don't have the personnel. We addressed the defensive side of the ball with some pretty good success. Now we need to bolster the O-line, get a running attack, and bring in some WRs that can get some separation. We saw what Purdy did, which is exactly what Dak did in 2016 except for not getting to the NFCCG.

The question now is: Can we get Dak to take a team friendly deal that will allow us to surround him with the talent he needs to succeed? If he won't take a deal like $40MM over 5-6 years (that will be a bargain in 2025), we need to move on. Teams that allow the QB to eat up a large portion of the cap just don't have team success. That's where we are now, but it isn't where we have to stay.
Experience helps, but you have to have the ability and judgment.
Jerry has neither.
Who hires Garrett and keeps him for 10 years?
Who let's emotions when making player retention judgments cloud their decisions?
Jerry even said himself that Jerry the owner should fire Jerry the GM.
Jerry does not have what it takes to be a successful GM, period.
No NFCCG in 28 years is proof.
 

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And he has 25 wins in 2 years.
Wins are great, but no NFC championship game in 30 years or more? He cant get us over the hump. And lets really take a look at why the Cowboys have had most of their modest success over the last 18 years. Its because they have had great stability back to back at the QB position with Romo and then Dak. One could argue that Jerry pretty much stumbled upon both Romo and Dak and got lucky.
Without those two lucky breaks what would our records be during that time?

Jerry has had to literally spend next to nothing in the way of draft capital searching for a QB or moving up. And still he cant put a championship roster together. Making the huge blunders like he does with Zeke, Garrett, ect....ect..... These are the boneheaded decisions that keep you from winning it all.
 

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Experience helps, but you have to have the ability and judgment.
Jerry has neither.
Who hires Garrett and keeps him for 10 years?
Who let's emotions when making player retention judgments cloud their decisions?
Jerry even said himself that Jerry the owner should fire Jerry the GM.
Jerry does not have what it takes to be a successful GM, period.
No NFCCG in 28 years is proof.
Okay. So if/when they play in an NFCCG, that will be proof that he is qualified, right? Go ahead and change the goalposts now so that you don’t have to do it later.

Btw, JJ can’t get on the field. 2014 (Dez non-catch) and 2016 (3rd and 20 pass to Cook from Rodgers, plus terribly late game DPI call) were games we should’ve won to advance to the NFCCG. It’s not as is the team has been mired in mediocrity. They haven’t been, and that includes the past two seasons

You just said it: You’re one of those people that defines the success of a team by their post-season success. You don’t want the Cowboys to win a Lombardi more than I do, but I also believe that post-season success is a goal, not a defining characteristic. Yes, it sucked that we got rolled by the Rams in 2018 and the 49’s the past two years, but those were good Dallas teams that either played bad games at the wrong time or that ran into a buzz saw. Jones and Co. put those teams together. He’s getting the right personnel on the field.
 

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Okay. So if/when they play in an NFCCG, that will be proof that he is qualified, right? Go ahead and change the goalposts now so that you don’t have to do it later.

Btw, JJ can’t get on the field. 2014 (Dez non-catch) and 2016 (3rd and 20 pass to Cook from Rodgers, plus terribly late game DPI call) were games we should’ve won to advance to the NFCCG. It’s not as is the team has been mired in mediocrity. They haven’t been, and that includes the past two seasons

You just said it: You’re one of those people that defines the success of a team by their post-season success. You don’t want the Cowboys to win a Lombardi more than I do, but I also believe that post-season success is a goal, not a defining characteristic. Yes, it sucked that we got rolled by the Rams in 2018 and the 49’s the past two years, but those were good Dallas teams that either played bad games at the wrong time or that ran into a buzz saw. Jones and Co. put those teams together. He’s getting the right personnel on the field.
We will have to agree to disagree on this issue.
I respect your opinion.
BTW, I would love to see the Cowboys go to a NFCCG no matter who the GM is, but if history is any teacher, it wont be with Jerry.
 

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So true!
We are afraid of signing big ticket free agents, then overpay our own.
LOL it's not just big ticket free agents, how about middle of the road free agents? He's a bottom feeder. He doesn't use free agency to improve the product. It's used more for maintenance.

Lets say you bought an item, and it has multiple upgrades that you can purchase. Jerry doesn't buy any of those add ons in FA, just the batteries that weren't included.
 

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Wins are great, but no NFC championship game in 30 years or more? He cant get us over the hump. And lets really take a look at why the Cowboys have had most of their modest success over the last 18 years. Its because they have had great stability back to back at the QB position with Romo and then Dak. One could argue that Jerry pretty much stumbled upon both Romo and Dak and got lucky.
Without those two lucky breaks what would our records be during that time?

Jerry has had to literally spend next to nothing in the way of draft capital searching for a QB or moving up. And still he cant put a championship roster together. Making the huge blunders like he does with Zeke, Garrett, ect....ect..... These are the boneheaded decisions that keep you from winning it all.
Well said sir!
 
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