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He's never going to be 100% healthy which is why the team has to take so many precautions with him. They give him rest days in practice just to try and keep him feeling good for Sundays.
You feel the same with Tyron now that Tyron Thursdays exist?
 

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There is no "good timing" to a move like this.
assuming Romo is taking over no matter what Dak does,
they team needs to announce monday that Romo will be the starting QB after the bye
if he isnt ready (which he shouldnt play until more than ready), just state he isnt until the next week.
its not good for the team and maybe the fans to *****foot around it.
and jerrah needs not to milk it for attention, the team is more important

My scenario is with this assumption.
 

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You feel the same with Tyron now that Tyron Thursdays exist?

No, because Tyron is a younger player who hasn't had the injury issues and the missed games Romo's had. Romo has become a china doll whose career is nearing the end.
 

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Having Romo take over the following week if we lose to Green Bay would be like saying we're pinning the loss on Dak. I don't call that good timing especially with Philly coming up. Romo taking over against a Philly defense that has 14 sacks when he has't played a regular season game since Nov of last year would likely result in another injury and back to back losses. If we lose to Green Bay I want to see us and Dak rebound the following week. Everyone wants to see Dak vs Wenz and you can bet barring injury Dak will be playing.

Well what's wrong with pinning the loss on Dak? If he goes out there today and stinks up the place and we lose, what's your line of thinking going to be then? Will he have any part in it at all? Or will the excuses start to roll out to fit your agenda?

You give him all the credit in the world for our wins and pin them on him, dominant offensive line and running game and overachieving defense playing well be damned.

And it's just speculation on your part what Romo will do if he plays against the Eagles.

I hope Dak goes out there today and lights it up, but who is moving the goalposts in judgement here?
 

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Well what's wrong with pinning the loss on Dak? If he goes out there today and stinks up the place and we lose, what's your line of thinking going to be then? Will he have any part in it at all? Or will the excuses start to roll out to fit your agenda?

You give him all the credit in the world for our wins and pin them on him, dominant offensive line and running game and overachieving defense playing well be damned.

And it's just speculation on your part what Romo will do if he plays against the Eagles.

I hope Dak goes out there today and lights it up, but who is moving the goalposts in judgement here?

Nothing wrong with pinning it on him if he plays terrible today but it's going a bit overboard to bench him after only one bad game when he's one of the main reasons we're having a much better than expected season. My line of thinking if he stinks it up and we lose is to encourage him by staying with him and allowing him to rebound against Philly in a couple of weeks. Pinning a loss on a player is one thing but to bench them would only hurt their confidence especially a rookie who's played extremely well this season. You don't bench any player who's played well all season due to one poor performance. My speculation of what to expect with Romo if he were to play against Philly is based on how he looked last season when he came back from a lengthy injury.

He had 5 picks returning from 7 missed games last season and was horrible vs Carolina. Coming back from a broken collarbone is one thing but returning from a broken back is another. He hasn't played a regular season game since the Carolina game and will miss almost half this season if he plays against Philly. He'll be rusty and with rust comes turnovers with him. He'll probably be apprehensive about taking hits which could cause rushed/forced throws resulting in picks. Romo is in no condition to play at the level we've seen Dak play at this season. We lose the read option with him at QB and the read option with Dak is one of the reasons our offense in ranked #2. That's a dangerous element to our offense that we won't have with Romo. Romo will not play against Philly unless Dak gets injured and you can book it!
 

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Nothing wrong with pinning it on him if he plays terrible today but it's going a bit overboard to bench him after only one bad game when he's one of the main reasons we're having a much better than expected season. My line of thinking if he stinks it up and we lose is to encourage him by staying with him and allowing him to rebound against Philly in a couple of weeks. Pinning a loss on a player is one thing but to bench them would only hurt their confidence especially a rookie who's played extremely well this season. You don't bench any player who's played well all season due to one poor performance. My speculation of what to expect with Romo if he were to play against Philly is based on how he looked last season when he came back from a lengthy injury.

He had 5 picks returning from 7 missed games last season and was horrible vs Carolina. Coming back from a broken collarbone is one thing but returning from a broken back is another. He hasn't played a regular season game since the Carolina game and will miss almost half this season if he plays against Philly. He'll be rusty and with rust comes turnovers with him. He'll probably be apprehensive about taking hits which could cause rushed/forced throws which will result in picks. Romo is in no condition to play at the level we've seen Dak play at this season. We lose the read option with him at QB and the read option with Dak is one of the reasons our offense in ranked #2. That's a dangerous element to our offense that we won't have with Romo. Romo will not play against Philly unless Dak gets injured and you can book it!

I appreciate you answering my question. I wasn't trying to be rude or anything.

I disagree with your opinion and will again just say that you assumming Romo will be in no condition to play is pure opinion and speculation on your part. And I watched Romo play last year and he looked fine to me with the exception of the Carolina game.

I like Dak, but I can make the argument and actually do hold the opinion that the fantastic play and state of our offensive line is the main reason our offense has been as good as it has. I'm not minimizing the play of Dak, but that's my opinion.

Of course, all of my positions on Romo is with the caveat that he is healthy, which is definitely the main debate worth having because if he is then he is the better player and this offense will be better.
 

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Don't know what you're referring to.

It just seemed like you were implying that Dak shouldn't be pinned with a loss if we do lose while giving him the credit for winning. You may not have been inferring that and if you were not then I apologize.
 

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I disagree with your opinion and will again just say that you assumming Romo will be in no condition to play is pure opinion and speculation on your part. And I watched Romo play last year and he looked fine to me with the exception of the Carolina game.

Romo was okay vs Miami but you could see he wasn't sharp. He had 2 picks and his passer rating was only 83.5. His passer rating was only 79.4 in the games he played last season. He's not going to be better than what we've seen from Dak with all the games he's missed and recovering from a broken back. By the way Dak has done a lot of his damage without Dez. Romo's history shows that when he's rusty he turns the ball over. He entered the 2014 season rusty from rehabbing his surgically repaired back and the Cowboys being cautious with him. He had 3 INT's in the opener vs SF. It's easy to make assumptions with a 36 year old QB who's missed a number of games the past 2 seasons.
 

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Romo was okay vs Miami but you could see he wasn't sharp. He had 2 picks and his passer rating was only 83.5. His passer rating was only 79.4 in the games he played last season. He's not going to be better than what we've seen from Dak with all the games he's missed and recovering from a broken back. By the way Dak has done a lot of his damage without Dez. Romo's history shows that when he's rusty he turns the ball over. He entered the 2014 season rusty from rehabbing his surgically repaired back and the Cowboys being cautious with him. He had 3 INT's in the opener vs SF. It's easy to make assumptions with a 36 year old QB who's missed a number of games the past 2 seasons.

So you don't want to judge Dak off of one game if he has one and make any rash decisions, but you judge Romo off of one game when he threw 3 picks against the 49ers in 2014?

What did Romo do for the whole season after that? Your argument would make more sense had Romo took three or four weeks to finally start playing at an elite level, but we all know what happened.

And like I said, you don't know even if Romo isn't sharp his first game if he won't do what he's always done when he's healthy, which is ball. Romo wasn't healthy when he came back last year. We all knew that he was rushed back too soon.
 

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It just seemed like you were implying that Dak shouldn't be pinned with a loss if we do lose while giving him the credit for winning. You may not have been inferring that and if you were not then I apologize.

I was saying if you bench him, it's saying you're pinning him with the loss regardless how he plays. Why damage the kids confidence that's he's built all season just to bring back Romo? Going back to Romo is just returning to where we've been. What have we won with him? We're not going to win anything with him now after all the injuries and missed games. We have what could be something special going with Dak this season. He's energized the team and the fans and we need to stay with him.
 

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So you don't want to judge Dak off of one game if he has one and make any rash decisions, but you judge Romo off of one game when he threw 3 picks against the 49ers in 2014?

What did Romo do for the whole season after that? Your argument would make more sense had Romo took three or four weeks to finally start playing at an elite level, but we all know what happened.

And like I said, you don't know even if Romo isn't sharp his first game if he won't do what he's always done when he's healthy, which is ball. Romo wasn't healthy when he came back last year. We all knew that he was rushed back too soon.

I'm not judging Romo off of one game try reading my post again. I'm judging him off 3 games where he was obviously rusty from inactivity. I mentioned the Miami, Carolina and SF games. You're stuck in 2014 with Romo that was 2 years ago, that Romo isn't coming back. You need to look at last season after the collarbone injuries. Even in preseason this past summer Dak was our best QB. He was the best QB of any QB in the league in preseason and he's currently ranked #2 amongst QBs this season. Romo will never be totally healthy which is why the Cowboys rest him in practices to keep him feeling good. A lot of precautions have to are made with him to try and keep him ready for Sundays.
 

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I was saying if you bench him, it's saying you're pinning him with the loss regardless how he plays. Why damage the kids confidence that's he's built all season just to bring back Romo? Going back to Romo is just returning to where we've been. What have we won with him? We're not going to win anything with him now after all the injuries and missed games. We have what could be something special going with Dak this season. He's energized the team and the fans and we need to stay with him.

No. We have something special with this offensive line, which is one of the best my young eyes has seen. I'm sure others have seen better, I can just speak for myself.

And I highly doubt Dak's confidence is going to be damaged at all. Have you seen his poise and maturity? He's 23 years old. He'll be fine.

This is a team sport. We haven't won anything in 20 plus years, but the reason we haven't been a laughing stock is because of Tony Romo.
 

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I'm not judging Romo off of one game try reading my post again. I'm judging him off 3 games where he was obviously rusty from inactivity. I mentioned the Miami, Carolina and SF games. You're stuck in 2014 with Romo that was 2 years ago, that Romo isn't coming back. You need to look at last season after the collarbone injuries. Even in preseason this past summer Dak was our best QB. He was the best QB of any QB in the league in preseason and he's currently ranked #2 amongst QBs this season. Romo will never be totally healthy which is why the Cowboys rest him in practices to keep him feeling good. A lot of precautions have to are made with him to try and keep him ready for Sundays.

You mentioned the SF game, not me.

He wasn't healthy last year.

Again, you stating that Romo will never be healthy has no basis in fact. It's all your opinion.
 

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No. We have something special with this offensive line, which is one of the best my young eyes has seen. I'm sure others have seen better, I can just speak for myself.

And I highly doubt Dak's confidence is going to be damaged at all. Have you seen his poise and maturity? He's 23 years old. He'll be fine.

This is a team sport. We haven't won anything in 20 plus years, but the reason we haven't been a laughing stock is because of Tony Romo.

We have something that could be special at QB and RB. The OL didn't look so hot last season with the QBs and RBs we had. Regardless how Dak plays today there's no reason to bench him for a QB that hasn't played all season. Romo has been a terrific QB over the years but I haven't seen the level of play elevate around him like I've seen it elevate around Dak. We even have players on defense stepping up, Dak has energized the entire team. We've covered this enough let's get ready for the Cowboys/Packers kick off.
 

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You mentioned the SF game, not me.

He wasn't healthy last year.

Again, you stating that Romo will never be healthy has no basis in fact. It's all your opinion.

I mentioned the SF, Miami and Carolina games as games he was rusty in. He's had too many injuries primarily to his back to ever be totally healthy. Back issues don't just heal up and go away.
 

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We have something that could be special at QB and RB. The OL didn't look so hot last season with the QBs and RBs we had. Regardless how Dak plays today there's no reason to bench him for a QB that hasn't played all season. Romo has been a terrific QB over the years but I haven't seen the level of play elevate around him like I've seen it elevate around Dak. We even have players on defense stepping up, Dak has energized the entire team. We've covered this enough let's get ready for the Cowboys/Packers kick off.

Ok.

I respectfully disagree with all of your points. Have a good one bud.
 
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