The Hatred Mock, Version 5.0

[Hostile]

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I'm bored so I decided to enjoy another Mock.

1a. Antoine Cason, CB, Arizona, 6'0", 190. I believe there will be a run on CBs with 3 going before we pick at 22. I believe Cason is the most under rated of all the 1st round prospects. Look up his stats. He simply shines. He is the strongest of the candidates too, having done 20 reps.

1b. James Hardy, WR, Indiana, 6'6", 220. I still believe this pick and Akin Ayodele are on their way to Detroit for Roy Williams. If that trade doesn't happen this is the guy I hope we pick at WR. I believe he has the intangibles to be the most dangerous of the group.

2. Ray Rice, RB, Rutgers, 5'9" 195. A run on RBs at the top of the 2nd round still leaves us a quality option. A tribute to the depth available at this position in this draft. There's also a chance we pass on RB on day 1 and hope to grab Steve Slaton of West Virginia or Steve Smith of Central Florida on day 2.

3. Heath Benedict, OG, Newberry, 6'5", 321. Quite possibly my favorite sleeper pick in the Draft. A player I truly hope we acquire.

4. Trae Williams, CB, South Florida, 5'9", 193. Simply put, we're allowing three 2007 roster spots to leave via Free Agency, this Draft is deep at CB, and we might as well take advantage of this opportunity.

5. Owen Schmitt, FB, West Virginia, 6'2" 247. I'm a broken record, but I love the idea of him opening holes for Barber.

6. Kevin O'Connell, QB, San Diego State, 6'5", 225. I like the idea of drafting a QB every year. If they develop before your starter is ready to exit stage left, they net you a lot in a trade. This kid is rising after the Combines and my be gone, but for now he's rated 6th round and we have the first pick of the 6th.

7. Spencer Larsen, ILB, Arizona, 6'2", 243. I still love him even if he ran a 4.9 at the Combines. He's a Zach Thomas clone and would feed off Zach.

I welcome your input. I feel your hatred. Give in to your hate. Have fun.

 

[ABQcowboyJR]

Why dont you look at a DT?

 

[Hostile]

Why dont you look at a DT?

We have 2 young ones and won't carry 3.

 

[slotshot]

Love it!

 

[TheCount]

I'm going to go ahead and pretend I had a small hand on swinging you on Hardy.

Good draft, I'll take Cason in the 1st before any of the other guys if the top 3 are gone.

I'm still not sure on Heath myself, but you get credit for sticking to your guns.

 

[masomenos]

I would love this. In the 4th, for a second CB, I would rather look at a guy like Terrence Wheatley, Antwuan Molden or Jack Williams. That's it though, everything else I love. One more note I guess, that CB pick could be interchanged with Aqib Talib or DRC as far as I'm concerned and the draft would be just as good.

 

[zrinkill]

Love this draft.

 

[ThatsmyQB]

I'm bored so I decided to enjoy another Mock.

1a. Antoine Cason, CB, Arizona, 6'0", 190. I believe there will be a run on CBs with 3 going before we pick at 22. I believe Cason is the most under rated of all the 1st round prospects. Look up his stats. He simply shines. He is the strongest of the candidates too, having done 20 reps.

I just dont' like Cason, but think our top pick will be a C.B. unless Kelly falls to us!

1b. James Hardy, WR, Indiana, 6'6", 220. I still believe this pick and Akin Ayodele are on their way to Detroit for Roy Williams. If that trade doesn't happen this is the guy I hope we pick at WR. I believe he has the intangibles to be the most dangerous of the group.

If he falls it's a no brainer IMO!

2. Ray Rice, RB, Rutgers, 5'9" 195. A run on RBs at the top of the 2nd round still leaves us a quality option. A tribute to the depth available at this position in this draft. There's also a chance we pass on RB on day 1 and hope to grab Steve Slaton of West Virginia or Steve Smith of Central Florida on day 2.

See Hardy comment!

3. Heath Benedict, OG, Newberry, 6'5", 321. Quite possibly my favorite sleeper pick in the Draft. A player I truly hope we acquire.

Don't wanna use a 3rd rounder on a guard, but I do like him and wouldn't have a problem with the pick as long as we in fact got a C.B./R.B./W.R. with our top 3 picks!

4. Trae Williams, CB, South Florida, 5'9", 193. Simply put, we're allowing three 2007 roster spots to leave via Free Agency, this Draft is deep at CB, and we might as well take advantage of this opportunity.

I see Williams as a mid 3rd rounder so I doubt he's on the board late 4th early 5th range, but would be awesome if he was!

5. Owen Schmitt, FB, West Virginia, 6'2" 247. I'm a broken record, but I love the idea of him opening holes for Barber.

Don't think F.B. will be on our draft board!

6. Kevin O'Connell, QB, San Diego State, 6'5", 225. I like the idea of drafting a QB every year. If they develop before your starter is ready to exit stage left, they net you a lot in a trade. This kid is rising after the Combines and my be gone, but for now he's rated 6th round and we have the first pick of the 6th.

Would rather have Josh Johnson in round 4, but I agree with your idea on getting Q.B.'s, we NEED to grrom SOMEONE, I hate the idea of only having Romo and a 39 year old backup without a 3rd stringer, to me that's just ********!
If we did that with the Bledsoe days we'd never have Romo and some other team would have him and we'd be stillsearchign for a Q.B.!

7. Spencer Larsen, ILB, Arizona, 6'2", 243. I still love him even if he ran a 4.9 at the Combines. He's a Zach Thomas clone and would feed off Zach.

If we trade Ayodelle away, we STILL wouldn't have room on our roster for an I.L.B. since we'd only keep 4 and got Thomas and James as starters and Burnett and Carpenter as backups, so I.L.B. will NOT be drafted, an O.T. will not be drafted and a T.E. will not be drafted!

 

[ThatsmyQB]

I would love this. In the 4th, for a second CB, I would rather look at a guy like Terrence Wheatley, .

Wheatley could be gone by our pick in round 2 and will DEFINATELY be gone by our 3rd round pick and NO WAY IN HELL will he be there in the late 4th round!

 

[Manwiththeplan]

1a. Antoine Cason, CB, Arizona, 6'0", 190. I believe there will be a run on CBs with 3 going before we pick at 22. I believe Cason is the most under rated of all the 1st round prospects. Look up his stats. He simply shines. He is the strongest of the candidates too, having done 20 reps.

I have no problem taking him, but just not at 22. If he's the top CB left trade down cause imo there isn't much seperating Talib, Cason and Porter.

1b. James Hardy, WR, Indiana, 6'6", 220. I still believe this pick and Akin Ayodele are on their way to Detroit for Roy Williams. If that trade doesn't happen this is the guy I hope we pick at WR. I believe he has the intangibles to be the most dangerous of the group.

IMO he'll be the first WR taken unless some team falls in love with DeSean Jackson depite his height.

2. Ray Rice, RB, Rutgers, 5'9" 195. A run on RBs at the top of the 2nd round still leaves us a quality option. A tribute to the depth available at this position in this draft. There's also a chance we pass on RB on day 1 and hope to grab Steve Slaton of West Virginia or Steve Smith of Central Florida on day 2.

IMO, it seems you're targetting guys who are viewed as over achievers and the problem with spending picks on these type of guys is you get career back-ups sometimes. I also think this is too early for Rice

3. Heath Benedict, OG, Newberry, 6'5", 321. Quite possibly my favorite sleeper pick in the Draft. A player I truly hope we acquire.

How much of a need is guard? We have our 2 starters in Kosier and Davis and they're pretty good. Then we have Corey Proctor and Pat McQuistern (remember he was set to compete with Kosier at LG before Flo took a while to recover from offseason knee surgery).

4. Trae Williams, CB, South Florida, 5'9", 193. Simply put, we're allowing three 2007 roster spots to leave via Free Agency, this Draft is deep at CB, and we might as well take advantage of this opportunity.

5. Owen Schmitt, FB, West Virginia, 6'2" 247. I'm a broken record, but I love the idea of him opening holes for Barber.

6. Kevin O'Connell, QB, San Diego State, 6'5", 225. I like the idea of drafting a QB every year. If they develop before your starter is ready to exit stage left, they net you a lot in a trade. This kid is rising after the Combines and my be gone, but for now he's rated 6th round and we have the first pick of the 6th.

I'd be fine with all three picks

7. Spencer Larsen, ILB, Arizona, 6'2", 243. I still love him even if he ran a 4.9 at the Combines. He's a Zach Thomas clone and would feed off Zach.

Another over achiever. I guess spending a 7th on an over achiever isn't that big of a deal, but their are guards and DTs faster than him.

 

[Manwiththeplan]

I just dont' like Cason, but think our top pick will be a C.B. unless Kelly falls to us!
Don't think F.B. will be on our draft board!

If we trade Ayodelle away, we STILL wouldn't have room on our roster for an I.L.B. since we'd only keep 4 and got Thomas and James as starters and Burnett and Carpenter as backups, so I.L.B. will NOT be drafted, an O.T. will not be drafted and a T.E. will not be drafted!

IMO averege players (Deon Anderson) and back-ups (Burnett and Carpenter) should never keep you from drafting a position. Do I think Owen Schmidt, and Spencer Lawson are great prospects, no, but then again if a guy falls to us and we think he can contibute immediately (something Burnett has done little of and Carpnter hasn't at all) we should take him.

 

[Manwiththeplan]

I still believe this pick and Akin Ayodele are on their way to Detroit for Roy Williams. If that trade doesn't happen this is the guy I hope we pick at WR. I believe he has the intangibles to be the most dangerous of the group.

Akin Ayodele is a terrible fit in a cover 2 scheme. If we trade for RW, he won't be involved.

 

[masomenos]

Wheatley could be gone by our pick in round 2 and will DEFINATELY be gone by our 3rd round pick and NO WAY IN HELL will he be there in the late 4th round!

Let's see, he's rated as the 21st best CB by NFL Draft Scout, the 16th best CB by NFL Draft Countdown and the 18th best CB by Scouts.com. Historically, the 18th defensive back taken normally gets drafted in the late third round, that's including safeties. When taking into account the safeties that will be drafted Wheatley could easily last until the third round and it wouldn't be surprising if he was available in the 4th either.

 

[Hostile]

I'm going to go ahead and pretend I had a small hand on swinging you on Hardy.

Good draft, I'll take Cason in the 1st before any of the other guys if the top 3 are gone.

I'm still not sure on Heath myself, but you get credit for sticking to your guns.

I had Hardy in my first Mock, but in the 2nd round. Reaction to that was negative and I went away from it. His work at the Combine, your posts and one other poster's observations about him have been an influence on why I have him back.

 

[Hostile]

I would love this. In the 4th, for a second CB, I would rather look at a guy like Terrence Wheatley, Antwuan Molden or Jack Williams. That's it though, everything else I love. One more note I guess, that CB pick could be interchanged with Aqib Talib or DRC as far as I'm concerned and the draft would be just as good.

I don't know anything about those 3 CB options beyond their names. I'd welcome more info on them. I had DRC long gone along with Jenkins and McKelvin, so I was choosing between Talib and Cason. I just like Cason a lot better and not just because he played at AZ, though I'd be lying if I said that doesn't matter to me.

 

[Goldenrichards83]

I love it. But I think trading Ferg opens up the possibility of moving Rat to the DE position and we had very strong interest in Red Bryant at the Senior Bowl. Love the Trae Williams pick and I truly believe Houck will want more beef on his OG so good pick with Benedict.

Cason is the best corner in this years draft. He was the best coming into this year and he did nothing to hurt that. He is like a coach on the field and by mid season I see him moving Henry out of his starting position.

 

[masomenos]

I don't know anything about those 3 CB options beyond their names. I'd welcome more info on them. I had DRC long gone along with Jenkins and McKelvin, so I was choosing between Talib and Cason. I just like Cason a lot better and not just because he played at AZ, though I'd be lying if I said that doesn't matter to me.

I really hope McKelvin and Jenkins are long gone before we pick, I think they're both highly overrated and if teams pick them early then it will just push DRC, Talib and Cason farther down to us. I understand you liking Cason the most though, he was the best CB in college last year and proved to have plenty of athleticism at the combine. If a team takes Talib early, along with Jenkins and McKelvin being gone, then I think we have a legit shot at Cromartie at 22. He'd be my first choice. For me it's really a wash between Talib and Cason though, I think they'll both be very good pros though.

As for the other guys I mentioned, Wheatley, Molden and J. Williams, here's what I've gathered.

Wheatley: He struggled in the Senior Bowl, is listed at 5'10 and is coming off of a foot injury, that's what has kept his stock low. He is an absolutely terrific CB though and may be the most underrated at the position in the draft class. In the past two seasons he had 16 starts, missing some time as a senior with the aforementioned foot injury and the most yards he gave up to any coverage assignment in the past two years was 53. Other than that no player had more than 30 receiving yards on him in those 16 games. According to NFLDS he allowed 1 TD over that 16 game span and held 7 main coverage assignments to 0 catches, with multiple others only catching 1 pass. His 10yd time, shuttle time and cone drill time were among the very best of all CBs at the combine. ALl of his combine #s were among the best actually including 17 bench reps and 36.5 inch vert. Very intelligent player who is also gifted athletically and produced at a high level in the Big 12, in fact one of those games where he didn't allow any catches was when he was matched up against Malcom Kelly.

Molden: He's a player from a smaller school who has good size at 6'1 198lbs and also proved to be a good athlete at the combine. There's not as much information available for him but he's noted as a shutdown CB who is very physical, has the speed and fluidity to turn and run deep and does a terrific job at playing both the ball and the receiver. Well skilled in both man and zone coverage but has some issues with securing the catch which can lead to some dropped INTs. Negatives on him are that he may have some difficulty covering the slot, but with his agility and reaction skills it may be something that can be coached into him over time. And he has that "don't back down against anyone" attitude that you love a CB to have.

J. Williams: He's kind of the opposite of Molden, this is the guy who you absolutely want covering the slot. At 5'9 186 he's not the guy that you want matched up against the Roy Williams' or Plaxico Burress' of the league but one of his top skills is his ability to quickly redirect himself and break on the quick patterns that you see slot guys like Welker running. I don't think you would ever want to have him as more than a sub package guy but I think he could excel when left in as a Nickel or Dime CB. He's another guy who's just a good athlete but he also does a terrific job of reading the QB without focusing on the backfield and losing the receiver. He has terrific ball skills and has very solid hands and the burst to take an INT back for a TD. Despite his size he's very willing to mix it up in run support and is a tough player who is a terrific special teams coverage guy. Has terrific strength for his size, doing 19 reps and is one of the fastest CBs in the draft over 10 and 20 yards.

 

[Woods]

I really hope McKelvin and Jenkins are long gone before we pick, I think they're both highly overrated and if teams pick them early then it will just push DRC, Talib and Cason farther down to us. I understand you liking Cason the most though, he was the best CB in college last year and proved to have plenty of athleticism at the combine. If a team takes Talib early, along with Jenkins and McKelvin being gone, then I think we have a legit shot at Cromartie at 22. He'd be my first choice. For me it's really a wash between Talib and Cason though, I think they'll both be very good pros though.

Personally, between Talib and Cason, I'm leaning towards Cason.

From what I've been reading on Talib (thehuddlereport, for example), it just seems that Talib may be a better fit at FS (questions on quickness, etc.)

I'm not sure why Cason has been dropping over the past 3 months or so in so many mock drafts. He was the top rated CB after the season ended, and I'm not sure what he's done or not done to now be recognized as the 4-8 best CB going into this draft (depending on which draft site you are looking at).

I think maybe it was that people were questioning his athletic ability. But his production in games mirrored his excellent Combine results, which for me, at least, makes him an excellent 1st Round pick.

In fact, I think Cason may be the safest bet of all the top ranked CBs going into this Draft.

What do you think?

 

[CF74]

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I'm bored so I decided to enjoy another Mock.

1a. Antoine Cason, CB, Arizona, 6'0", 190. I believe there will be a run on CBs with 3 going before we pick at 22. I believe Cason is the most under rated of all the 1st round prospects. Look up his stats. He simply shines. He is the strongest of the candidates too, having done 20 reps.

1b. James Hardy, WR, Indiana, 6'6", 220. I still believe this pick and Akin Ayodele are on their way to Detroit for Roy Williams. If that trade doesn't happen this is the guy I hope we pick at WR. I believe he has the intangibles to be the most dangerous of the group.

2. Ray Rice, RB, Rutgers, 5'9" 195. A run on RBs at the top of the 2nd round still leaves us a quality option. A tribute to the depth available at this position in this draft. There's also a chance we pass on RB on day 1 and hope to grab Steve Slaton of West Virginia or Steve Smith of Central Florida on day 2.

3. Heath Benedict, OG, Newberry, 6'5", 321. Quite possibly my favorite sleeper pick in the Draft. A player I truly hope we acquire.

4. Trae Williams, CB, South Florida, 5'9", 193. Simply put, we're allowing three 2007 roster spots to leave via Free Agency, this Draft is deep at CB, and we might as well take advantage of this opportunity.

5. Owen Schmitt, FB, West Virginia, 6'2" 247. I'm a broken record, but I love the idea of him opening holes for Barber.

6. Kevin O'Connell, QB, San Diego State, 6'5", 225. I like the idea of drafting a QB every year. If they develop before your starter is ready to exit stage left, they net you a lot in a trade. This kid is rising after the Combines and my be gone, but for now he's rated 6th round and we have the first pick of the 6th.

7. Spencer Larsen, ILB, Arizona, 6'2", 243. I still love him even if he ran a 4.9 at the Combines. He's a Zach Thomas clone and would feed off Zach.

I welcome your input. I feel your hatred. Give in to your hate. Have fun.

It looks like if we got all those picks we had a great draft, only thing I'm thinking is we need another rb/st type guy. If my memory serves me correctly that Hardy guy is kinda like a Keyshawn clone (Size/ability?)

 

[Hostile]

It looks like if we got all those picks we had a great draft, only thing I'm thinking is we need another rb/st type guy. If my memory serves me correctly that Hardy guy is kinda like a Keyshawn clone (Size/ability?)

Cason is a great return man.

There's a RB I think we're looking at as a UDFA, and as I said a few weeks ago, they really like Alonzo Coleman from Hampton who was on the PS last year.

Hardy reminds me more of Plaxico because of his rangy style of running and size.

I could easily see us taking a 2nd CB in round 2 and grabbing someone like Steve Slaton in round 3.