The insanity of this FO

[MCMetal69]

Please show me the team in the NFL that has no questionable positions on their roster.

By the time you solve those positions, a ton of our players will have retired or moved on. Then, you'll have other areas to address.

This is a very complete roster in today's NFL if the QB is up to snuff. Thomas really establishes the defense as an elite group.

That's a mighty big "if" in your 2nd to last sentence..........................

 

[Jake]

While I think they should , their stubbornness in holding onto Thomas flies against that. A rebuilding team should get what they can, trade the guy, and reap the $8 million in cap savings. And yet, here we are.

Reports are initially Seattle wanted a 1st and a 3rd in April - which is absurd - so they rejected the Cowboys offer of a 3rd expecting to do better. Obviously, that didn't happen.

The issue now is a guy under contract holding out to force a trade or extension. NFL GMs are very reluctant to give in to that because every player in the league is watching.

Earl Thomas has been a fantastic player. But the notion that he should get paid more now than he ever has in his career makes little sense. I understand why he feels he's earned it, but rewarding guys for what they've done in the past is bad business in the NFL. Each contract is an investment. Only a fool would treat it as something else. Only a bigger fool would offer Seattle more for the privilege.

 

[Stash]

Reports are initially Seattle wanted a 1st and a 3rd in April - which is absurd - so they rejected the Cowboys offer of a 3rd expecting to do better. Obviously, that didn't happen.

From all reports I've read, Seattle was willing to accept the Cowboys 2nd rounder during the draft. Dallas saw Williams still available and said no. They called Seattle back offering their 3rd and Seattle didn't take the call. And here we are today.

The issue now is a guy under contract holding out to force a trade or extension. NFL GMs are very reluctant to give in to that because every player in the league is watching.

Earl Thomas has been a fantastic player. But the notion that he should get paid more now than he ever has in his career makes little sense. I understand why he feels he's earned it, but rewarding guys for what they've done in the past is bad business in the NFL. Each contract is an investment. Only a fool would treat it as something else. Only a bigger fool would offer Seattle more for the privilege.

Nobody gets everything they want in all of this, including Earl Thomas. If he wants and extension and tom come "home", he can't expect $13 million a year as well. If he's does, he's delusional and a big reason why he's stuck in limbo.

 

[DallasEast]

Jerry had to fire Jimmy so he could steal them. That's just what Arkansas oil wildcatters do when they don't
know a thing about football.

Steal what exactly?

 

[beware_d-ware]

Plus ET wants a big contract. too big of a contract.

This is the other half of the equation. Thomas is an old, increasingly injury-prone player, and while he can ball-hawk at a Pro Bowl level right now, it's fair to wonder if he'll be the same guy in 3 or 4 years. Given that he's going to want top dollar on his new deal, paying a 2nd rounder to get a potential albatross of a contract down the road is a very real concern - and THAT would have people screaming about how stupid our front office is. It would be the Roy Williams trade all over again.

Personally I think the Cowboys want ET here, we know ET wants to be here, and I think that Seattle wants him out of their building. But unlike in the past, we aren't willing to make this deal at a price that doesn't work for us.

My money is still on ET coming here at the trade deadline. If the Seahawks are as bad as some pundits are thinking, they might fall out of the NFC race early, and given that they've burned all their bridges with Thomas, they know there's no way he's resigning with them after 2018 is done. If they do start losing, I think their asking price will fall pretty drastically as they hope to just get something in return from him before he leaves.

 

[Irvin88_4life]

The Lions won 4 Championships before the SB era.
The Jones family won three SB's in the pre Salary Cap era.
What have either done since?

Haha championships before the Superbowl era haha

 

[Irvin88_4life]

All based on one right decision. Ever since he blew that decision a few years later he has done nothing except make tons of money and bad decisions. We fans are left holding our empty wallets time and time again.

Doesn't matter, Jerry made the hire and won 3 Superbowls. That's facts and it will never change

 

[CCBoy]

Conventional wisdom in the NFL says the absolute best time to compete and win titles is with a good QB on a rookie contract. We have that. This year and next. This is the time to strike. Yet Jerry and son are content to with the status quo. Content to roll out scrubs at safety instead of spending the $. The money saved on Dez’s contract pays for Earl. Earl makes this defense a top 5 unit. Who cares that we give up a third. A third rounder is what got us Chaz Green. Spend the damn money.

The best time to compete is when a quarterback is a member of the NFL's top difference makers. Not a picture of low cash flow...

 

[Irvin88_4life]

This fanbase cracks me up. Those Super Bowls were how long ago? They are ancient history. But like the cliche and stereotypical Cowboys fan, somehow the mid 90s always gets brought back up to try and make a point. What has Jerry done the last 2 decades? Some of us want to see results in the dvd era. You are welcome to go pop in those VHS tapes and watch us win Super Bowls in the early and mid 90s. But Jerry has been a god awful GM/owner since those. Terrible GM because he has no business being one at all. Terrible owner because he won't fire the GM (himself) even though he has admitted that he should have been fired as a GM a long time ago if the situation was normal. But we don't have a normal situation. Our owner is our GM so huge conflict of interest.

Haha nice try to be funny about the VHS tapes even though I have them on dvd. Anyways fact is Jerry has 3 Superbowls, you can do and say all you want but that's the facts. Must hurt for them Jerry haters

 

[Diehardblues]

Conventional wisdom in the NFL says the absolute best time to compete and win titles is with a good QB on a rookie contract. We have that. This year and next. This is the time to strike. Yet Jerry and son are content to with the status quo. Content to roll out scrubs at safety instead of spending the $. The money saved on Dez’s contract pays for Earl. Earl makes this defense a top 5 unit. Who cares that we give up a third. A third rounder is what got us Chaz Green. Spend the damn money.

How do we know exactly what Seattle wants?

 

[Irvin88_4life]

You mean Jimmy Johnson has 3 Superbowls. Jerry just plays a HC on tv don't you know?

Jimmy only has 2 Superbowls but Jerry has 3 haha those are the facts

 

[Diehardblues]

I have.

And I'd just as soon pass.

Me too and his recent injuries concern me over investing.

And our defense looks pretty good. If Safety is still a big hole then we draft it high next year.

 

[Dre11]

I think this is more on the Seattle end, and not Dallas.
Everyone was to blame Jerry and the FO as usual. But it is really on Seattle wanting too much.
But it is status quo to blame Jerry.

Maybe it's Seattle, but I bet if we really want him, we can get him.

 

[OmerV]

This team will never be finished rebuilding. We've been in rebuild mode ever since Garrett got here.

We've been in rebuilding mode since 1997.

 

[OmerV]

Sign what other players? Most of our top guys are already signed or will be no problem. Lawrence was the last “concern” and it was dealt with. I just can’t see after dumping Dez how salary is an argument. So I say that possibility is slim to none.

As for age, he’s 29 and appears to be one of the guys whose physically gifted but also a workout warrior. Whatever his contract, it’ll effectively be for 3-4 years of expected production which I think is highly likely.

DeMarcus Lawrence. Zack Martin. Elliott. Dak. Anyone else whose contract comes up the next 3-4 years or any free agent from another team we may want to sign. The implications last more than one season.

 

[odog422]

I hope you're right, because if Thomas is looking for $13 million- plus a year, he can stay and rot in Seattle.



While I think they should , their stubbornness in holding onto Thomas flies against that. A rebuilding team should get what they can, trade the guy, and reap the $8 million in cap savings. And yet, here we are.



Despite not having Earl Thomas at safety, this starting defense has allowed zero points in three games thus far. Can't do better than that.

But, like you, I'm also concerned about the safety position. But I'm not willing to throw caution to the wind and get gouged by either the Seahawks or Earl Thomas either. Much the same way the Cowboys are playing this.

Mostly I think we disagree on the risk reward. I don’t think we would be gouged paying that salary for the player he is. I immediately think Roy Williams Joey Galloway and ken Hamlin when I think of massive free agent blunders we’ve made. To start, none of those guys I think could make the impact Thomas can. None of those guys were viewed as possibly the best at their position, they were by us, and they were “splash” signings mostly. And the cost comparatively speaking is prohibitive- a pick (one) and salary.

We’ll see when the bullets start flying but the only part of our D that I have a hint of legit excitement about is our pass rush. And that’s contingent on all parties remaining drug free for a season. My point is, I don’t look to preseason as indicative of what we will be, whether we look great or horrible. It’s like the annual “camp star” everyone raves about that ends up never to be heard from again once the season starts.

 

[Dre11]

If you can’t get your backups to at least look adequate against other teams backups, then you have no chance to get your starters in a position to win in the playoffs.

That's bs, we had backups vs starters for 2 solid quarters. They had 1 bad preseason game except the starting D.

 

[odog422]

DeMarcus Lawrence. Zack Martin. Elliott. Dak. Anyone else whose contract comes up the next 3-4 years or any free agent from another team we may want to sign. The implications last more than one season.

I think you can focus on our own. Any free agents we sign from other teams will not be expensive. Those days are gone. For our guys the money will be there. No way we lose any of those you named. Even with signing Thomas.

They knew his cost at draft time and if they thought the price was too high then, they never would've offered the pick to Seattle. They knew the cost and they knew they would want to keep all those guys you named.

 

[ConstantReboot]

Thanks for this. I completely agree. The culture is the biggest issue there. The video of the team walking into the locker room after Sunday's game was so telling. I know it is preseason but they just got embarrassed at home by the Cardinals. Those guys are yucking it up in the hall. Amazing. Everyone from the "GM" to the coach to the players are too comfortable. They don't have that edge that is needed to be special in the NFL. I have been blown away by how bad they have looked in the preseason. Defense has been pretty good but offensively they have looked terrible. Very similar to the look last season. Linehan has them 3 wide and runs it to the weak side for a yard way too often. The guy is a terrible OC. The decision to not put any edge on and challenge these guys is going to look really bad if they get stomped in Carolina. Sadly, the torch will be passed from Jerry to Stephen so I don't see an end to this carnival.

Garrett/Linehan are the worst. So predictable. When the play breaks down they don't even have their receivers scramble. They want them to wait there are though for some god given reason they will become open.

The offense is a massive failure. This is the FO doing. Not only Garrett/Linehan are the worst playcallers, they even hired an under-qualified, no experience QB coach. They offer no value whatsoever.

 

[Dre11]

All based on one right decision. Ever since he blew that decision a few years later he has done nothing except make tons of money and bad decisions. We fans are left holding our empty wallets time and time again.

Holding empty wallets? You 3 Super Bowls with Jerry at the helm, how many other teams have the same within Jerry's time. You got more than anyone except New England in the same time frame.