The Irony of the TO Drop

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It's rather ironic don't you think...

Everybody on here was riding the media for saying the Cowboys lost because of the mental lapses by the Carolina Panthers... To most of us here, Dallas won because they forced turnovers and made plays, irrespective of the fact that Keyshawn Johnson committed the same exact mistake a week earlier...

I guess when it comes to TO, he single-handedly costs us the game.....

That's how patently ridiculous this side-show regarding TO has become... It's amazing how many people are puppets of the media...
 

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khiladi;1146717 said:
It's rather ironic don't you think...

Everybody on here was riding the media for saying the Cowboys lost because of the mental lapses by the Carolina Panthers... To most of us here, Dallas won because they forced turnovers and made plays, irrespective of the fact that Keyshawn Johnson committed the same exact mistake a week earlier...

I guess when it comes to TO, he single-handedly costs us the game.....

That's how patently ridiculous this side-show regarding TO has become... It's amazing how many people are puppets of the media...


I'm not concerned what other players do. So what Keyshawn missed a catch and his team lost in part because of that but what the heck does that have to do with the Cowboys? What so and so does means nothing at all what does matter is what our guys do or don't do. TO drop cost Dallas from going up by 14 heading into the 4th that hurt a lot. Sorry but this attitude of well so and so screwed up so that somehow makes our screws ups better is ridicules. Frankly I don't care what the media has to say they have no control over anything
 

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I'm not concerned what other players do. So what Keyshawn missed a catch and his team lost in part because of that but what the heck does that have to do with the Cowboys? What so and so does means nothing at all what does matter is what our guys do or don't do. TO drop cost Dallas from going up by 14 heading into the 4th that hurt a lot. Sorry but this attitude of well so and so screwed up so that somehow makes our screws ups better is ridicules. Frankly I don't care what the media has to say they have no control over anything

And the drop by Keyshawn hurt the Panthers ALOT, pretty much costing them the game if we speak in the context of the TO drop, and yet we don't seem to think that it was because of this drop that the Dallas Cowboys won...

we think that Dallas won because of making plays... so do we just ignore the 153 penalties by Dallas, the fall by Fasano, the blocked field goal, as well as three sure interceptions dropped by the defense, because TO dropped a ball?

When TO drops a ball, it is his fault and the world falls down... But when KJ drops a ball, it is not relevant to DC, because we won the game by making plays...
 

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khiladi;1146717 said:
It's rather ironic don't you think...

Everybody on here was riding the media for saying the Cowboys lost because of the mental lapses by the Carolina Panthers... To most of us here, Dallas won because they forced turnovers and made plays, irrespective of the fact that Keyshawn Johnson committed the same exact mistake a week earlier...

I guess when it comes to TO, he single-handedly costs us the game.....

That's how patently ridiculous this side-show regarding TO has become... It's amazing how many people are puppets of the media...

This was a team loss. TO didn't "single-handedly" cost us the game. How about the stupid penalties. TOs and the others. How about the lackadaisical blocking on the field goal attempt. How about all the pass interference. :bang2:
 

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khiladi;1146717 said:
It's rather ironic don't you think...

Everybody on here was riding the media for saying the Cowboys lost because of the mental lapses by the Carolina Panthers... To most of us here, Dallas won because they forced turnovers and made plays, irrespective of the fact that Keyshawn Johnson committed the same exact mistake a week earlier...

I guess when it comes to TO, he single-handedly costs us the game.....

That's how patently ridiculous this side-show regarding TO has become... It's amazing how many people are puppets of the media...

I'm sorry but aren't we paying Owens a whole lot more than the Panthers are paying Keyshawn? Didn't we sign Owens and let Key walk as an UPGRADE? The expectations are higher with Owens than they are with Keyshawn but he isn't living up to them.

Stop making excuses for the guy. He didn't do, and hasn't done, what was expected of him when the Cowboys signed him. That is the bottom line and all that matters concerning the guy. You are not performing up to expectations and not giving us full value for what we are paying you. In any other business he would likely be out the door.
 

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nyc;1146771 said:
This was a team loss. TO didn't "single-handedly" cost us the game. How about the stupid penalties. TOs and the others. How about the lackadaisical blocking on the field goal attempt. How about all the pass interference. :bang2:

man I am so with you on this one. Gawd I'm still pissed
 

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CrazyCowboy;1146783 said:
Out of everything that happen, the drop was the biggest imo

I have to agree that that was the worst of our multitude of errors. I just don't like the TO haters using it as an excuse to bash him and only him. It was a team loss. Will this version of the Dallas Cowboys ever get over the hump?
 

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Stop making excuses for the guy. He didn't do, and hasn't done, what was expected of him when the Cowboys signed him. That is the bottom line and all that matters concerning the guy. You are not performing up to expectations and not giving us full value for what we are paying you. In any other business he would likely be out the door.

Expectations... But I thought the original fault of the DC offense was that Bledsoe couldn't get any of the receivers the ball... Is TO to blame for that? He's played 2 games with Romo, and his numbers have risen already...

In any business, only an idiot would release TO because of a drop like that... it would be the biggest management mistake...

Further, who is making excuses for the guy? What I am saying is be realistic and address the REAL ISSUES...

I can just as well turn this around and say, stop making excused for the DC defense, the poor blocking on the field goal, for Fasano for falling down, and so on and so on and so on...
 

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nyc;1146771 said:
This was a team loss. TO didn't "single-handedly" cost us the game. How about the stupid penalties. TOs and the others. How about the lackadaisical blocking on the field goal attempt. How about all the pass interference. :bang2:

I will give you it was a team loss. Plenty of mistakes to go around, but the TO mistake is by far the biggest of the game.

I am not some TO hater either, I have been more supportive of him than most around here.

I have not criticized him for off the field stuff being created by the media for the most part.

If the guy continues to drop critical passes that are easy catches then I am most others are going to be on him like white on rice.

The 4 and 2 drop against the Giants could have changed the outcome of that game. The long TD drop against Washington did change the outcome of that game. That would have been the nail in the coffin, instead it gave life back to the Skins.

Clearly others contributed to the loss, but that mistake stands out as the biggest.
 

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The 4 and 2 drop against the Giants could have changed the outcome of that game. The long TD drop against Washington did change the outcome of that game. That would have been the nail in the coffin, instead it gave life back to the Skins.

On the next drive, Roy Williams dropped a sure interception that would have put the Cowboys well in position to at least get a field goal, making it a two score game for the Commanders, putting the nail in the coffin...

What life did the drop give to the Skins? They missed a 49 year field goal, and even than, the yards they gained were from penalties.. Dallas than moved the ball down to a sure field goal, and the Commanders blocked it ... and than we had a face mask penalty...

We lost this game on a FLUKE play... and we lost this game because of our defense allowing 153 yards in penalties that moved an inept Commanders offense in positions to score...

even if TO made that catch, the game exposed what our real problem is... TO could not get us past the first round of play-offs the way our defense gets penalized...
 

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Big difference. Dallas beat Carolina by 21 points. Dallas still wins by 14 points if Keyshawn catches that pass.



YAKUZA
 

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Yakuza Rich;1146887 said:
Big difference. Dallas beat Carolina by 21 points. Dallas still wins by 14 points if Keyshawn catches that pass.



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Not necessarily. If Keyshawn had scored, the entire complexion of that game would have changed. Maybe they get confidence and don't go on to make some of the other mistakes they made. Plus, we would have played differently, coming from behind by a larger margin. But I do get your point, Yakuza. It just goes to show how one play can affect what does or does not happen afterwards.
 
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