The last play was almost a TD

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Now that the dust has settled, i went back and rewatched all the highlights. Anyone notice that their receiver was open and if that ball was 1 foot closer, we'd be having a different conversation. There were 3 defenders 1 or 2 yards off of him.
Not sure what's a bigger issues, the corners or lack of pressure.

Just looking at it from a different perspective
How about this? Did you notice the Eagle right tackle? Did you notice that Fowler had him totally over matched and drove him back into the qb which forced the desperation throw? Did you notice that the Eagles scored 0 points with him at right tackle and had 2 turnovers? Did you notice that Johnson and Maddox are probably out for the season and every team they play will attack their replacements?
 

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Just the perspective to the term "game of inches" and also the defense has gone from MVP to medium low tier. Just a concern. That's what forums are for.
I think you can't see the forest for the tress. Quinn is doing a good job with what he has and they just beat the team in the number 1 position. They very well could be getting a rested Williams and LVE back soon. They also get to get the new guys in the secondary ready to play over the next 2 weeks and get Parsons some needed rest.
 

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Now that the dust has settled, i went back and rewatched all the highlights. Anyone notice that their receiver was open and if that ball was 1 foot closer, we'd be having a different conversation. There were 3 defenders 1 or 2 yards off of him.
Not sure what's a bigger issues, the corners or lack of pressure.

Just looking at it from a different perspective

Just looking at it from a different perspective...------>"Almost" <------- :lmao2::lmao:
 

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That last throw was not as close as some seem to think it was. It had zero chance of completion. The WR, in this case AJ Brown, would have had to be standing on the end line as the ball was in the air to have any shot to catch it. Where he was at when the throw as made it was impossible for him to catch it and remain in bounds.
 

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Did you miss the part where our D line put pressure on Minshew on the 3rd and 4th down that forced those throws…

some of you are Eagles fans … no doubt in my mind. Football is a game of inches…
It is also real funny that they have the issue at right tackle and guys like this say that the Eagles will be fine.
 

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I mean he threw it out of the end zone. Didn't even give his receiver a chance, but that was because there was pressure at his feet. Sometimes, it isn't all about sacks.
 

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A few plays we had, were almost touchdowns as well. What's the point of this?

True statement. In fact on that stupid end around and toos back to Dak that lost 10 yards, Gallup was wide open streaking down the seam with no one in front of him. If Dak throws the ball to him it would have been a TD. On the run where Dak ran out of bounds to stop the clock before the 2 minute warning, if he cut that inside he could have powered his way into the end zone for a TD and the game would have been over right there.
 

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True statement. In fact on that stupid end around and toos back to Dak that lost 10 yards, Gallup was wide open streaking down the seam with no one in front of him. If Dak throws the ball to him it would have been a TD. On the run where Dak ran out of bounds to stop the clock before the 2 minute warning, if he cut that inside he could have powered his way into the end zone for a TD and the game would have been over right there.
If he had just run off 1 more second he would have avoided that big mistake.
 

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Now that the dust has settled, i went back and rewatched all the highlights. Anyone notice that their receiver was open and if that ball was 1 foot closer, we'd be having a different conversation. There were 3 defenders 1 or 2 yards off of him.
Not sure what's a bigger issues, the corners or lack of pressure.

Just looking at it from a different perspective
And I almost banged the prom queen! The difference? Nothing. We won the game, she banged some other dude. Life moved on
 

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Just the perspective to the term "game of inches" and also the defense has gone from MVP to medium low tier. Just a concern. That's what forums are for.

Well, I got you but history is full of "what if's".....I mean it's a fun topic don't get me wrong but it is what it is.

What happened if "The Catch" didn't happen in the 1981 NFC Championship game?
What if the 1970 merger didn't happen?
What happened if the "Immaculate Reception" was incomplete?

History is full of these and it didn't happen. The players, coaches and the environment were what they were and the events happened. Let's not try and take away from the effort our team put in, to make this situation what it was is all I'm saying.

Fun topic.
 

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Now that the dust has settled, i went back and rewatched all the highlights. Anyone notice that their receiver was open and if that ball was 1 foot closer, we'd be having a different conversation. There were 3 defenders 1 or 2 yards off of him.
Not sure what's a bigger issues, the corners or lack of pressure.

Just looking at it from a different perspective
but you can say the same thing about almost every play.....1 foot closer!!! there are lots of plays in this very game, where it was inches....if Pollard catches the ball with two hands instead of trying to one hand it, we would have had another TD instead of a field goal.... if smith doesn't lose his man and was 6 inches over, Dak doesn't get sacked and we would have had another TD instead of field goal....
 

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Now that the dust has settled, i went back and rewatched all the highlights. Anyone notice that their receiver was open and if that ball was 1 foot closer, we'd be having a different conversation. There were 3 defenders 1 or 2 yards off of him.
Not sure what's a bigger issues, the corners or lack of pressure.

Just looking at it from a different perspective



I noticed it too the ball was just out of Browns reach
 

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The last pass play by the Eagles was not close.

Defenders would be positioned differently if the ball was catchable.
lol no. If that play ran exactly like it did but the ball is a foot or two better…td and we are one crushed message board. Thinking that the d would be positioned differently if the ball is a couple yards closer is just silly.
 

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Now that the dust has settled, i went back and rewatched all the highlights. Anyone notice that their receiver was open and if that ball was 1 foot closer, we'd be having a different conversation. There were 3 defenders 1 or 2 yards off of him.
Not sure what's a bigger issues, the corners or lack of pressure.

Just looking at it from a different perspective

It never should have gotten to that point. First Dak runs out of bounds with 2:01 left. Then he takes a sack. I can see if it reached the two minute warning, but it didn't. Throw the ball away.

Then on 4th and goal they try to draw the defense offsides? Why? It's not getting you a first down. That was not clear thinking.
 

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lol no. If that play ran exactly like it did but the ball is a foot or two better…td and we are one crushed message board. Thinking that the d would be positioned differently if the ball is a couple yards closer is just silly.
Wrong.

Defenders react to passes (i.e. They would have different positioning relative to the WR if the pass was not going out of bounds.

You're doing what many fans do which is fail to visualize properly when they.post about play details, especially "what if" scenarios.

A good example was the much discussed mid-field INT earlier this season. Many here tried to explain that CeeDee ran the route incorrectly but the majority of people could not get past the fact that Dak threw an INT. Eventually many experts (ex players and coaches) explained how CeeDee ran the route incorrectly.
 

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Wrong.

Defenders react to passes (i.e. They would have different positioning relative to the WR if the pass was not going out of bounds.

You're doing what many fans do which is fail to visualize properly when they.post about play details, especially "what if" scenarios.

A good example was the much discussed mid-field INT earlier this season. Many here tried to explain that CeeDee ran the route incorrectly but the majority of people could not get past the fact that Dak threw an INT. Eventually many experts (ex players and coaches) explained how CeeDee ran the route incorrectly.
I’m confused…

The final pass did not go out of bounds. It looked to me like it landed in the right back corner of the end zone about a foot in front of brown and a foot toward the sideline from brown. It was so close to brown that I just do not believe that the defenders would play it any differently…I don’t even know if Brown saw it. Fox did an incredibly terrible job of covering that last pass…There was no slow motion close up highlight of it afterwards, at least not on my broadcast… I just watched it 10 times in real time, and from what I can tell it was inbounds and very close to brown…
 

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Now that the dust has settled, i went back and rewatched all the highlights. Anyone notice that their receiver was open and if that ball was 1 foot closer, we'd be having a different conversation. There were 3 defenders 1 or 2 yards off of him.
Not sure what's a bigger issues, the corners or lack of pressure.

Just looking at it from a different perspective

That's why pass rush is so key for the secondary. There are a lot of times that receivers are open. The question is whether the quarterback a) has time to find them and b) has time to throw a good pass. Minshew did not have time to get off a good pass, which is why it was incomplete. Our secondary has looked good this season when we've been able to create pressure. When we don't, the secondary doesn't look so good.

Brown and Lewis, for instance, didn't go from being suspect corners to decent corners simply because they got better. The scheme in the secondary may have helped them some, but it's primarily been the pass rush making it where teams can't scheme them open as much. We saw Brown struggle some on deep plays, but teams weren't just attacking him deep 20 plays a game because of issues protecting the QB from our pass rush.
 
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