The league has to address these routes

[Nightman]

They'll end up calling illegal contact on D. You can't win.

Just make it look like you got picked and throw some elbows and knees around.

A five yard penalty would be worth hammering some of those little gnomes.

 

[ghst187]

i also ask why the heck aren't we doing it?

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

It would be nice to start seeing LB make more plays in the passing game.

 

[aria]

So you support everyone cheating over a fair standard?

If the refs aren't going to call it, then yes. If it's as bad as some people make it out to be and is a wide spread problem, not just with the Patriots either, then using the pick is the "standard". I don't think it has much to do with why Cowboys lost but if the refs aren't flagging it and it will help us to possibly get a win then might as well. It's not ideal and hopefully the NFL cracks down on it but I don't think other teams should just stand by and possibly lose games while the other team is doing it themselves.

 

[TheCoolFan]

They won't do anything. Offense = $$$. Fan Duel and Draft Kings are unstoppable and they know it.

 

[DallasCowboys2080]

They won't do anything. Offense = $$$. Fan Duel and Draft Kings are unstoppable and they know it.

im not up to snuff on FF but is FF really contributing to how the game on the field is being played? these pick plays are a direct result of numbers on FF? what else?

 

[texbumthelife]

It's been said, but the best way this has been combatted in the past is by blowing up the man setting the pick. The refs are going to have to start calling it to protect the WR's. This is how Seattle shut it down in the second half against Green Bay last year. It's also how they slowed it down against the Patriots, to the point Brady had to force the ball to Gronk.

You stay in base D, you tell McClain to follow the slot receiver and run through anything in his way. You shade your safety to the outside so he can get a jump. You have to make the receivers and the refs think about it. The last thing you do is just sit back and let it happen over and over like we did Sunday.

 

[btcutter]

Just make it look like you got picked and throw some elbows and knees around.

A five yard penalty would be worth hammering some of those little gnomes.

Won't work...they call it so tight on DB's. Minor tug on the shirt gets called for holding. Some of the calls on Mo this year has been ridiculous.

 

[TheCoolFan]

im not up to snuff on FF but is FF really contributing to how the game on the field is being played? these pick plays are a direct result of numbers on FF? what else?

Not FF specifically but offense, yes. Fans love offense, it's what sells tickets and gets ratings. We are also at a point where FF is probably the most popular it's ever been. People want high scoring games and QBs who throw for 300 yards and 3 TDs and the NFL knows it.

 

[btcutter]

It's been said, but the best way this has been combatted in the past is by blowing up the man setting the pick. The refs are going to have to start calling it to protect the WR's. This is how Seattle shut it down in the second half against Green Bay last year. It's also how they slowed it down against the Patriots, to the point Brady had to force the ball to Gronk.

You stay in base D, you tell McClain to follow the slot receiver and run through anything in his way. You shade your safety to the outside so he can get a jump. You have to make the receivers and the refs think about it. The last thing you do is just sit back and let it happen over and over like we did Sunday.

Issue is that Patriots run pick even past the 5 yard limit. Then D will get called for illegal contact. I believe Belicheat figures either his pick plays will get a WR open or D will flagged. Either way he gets his first down.

 

[Hoofbite]

I proposed we start running them.

Seems crazy enough it might just work.

 

[Nightman]

Not FF specifically but offense, yes. Fans love offense, it's what sells tickets and gets ratings. We are also at a point where FF is probably the most popular it's ever been. People want high scoring games and QBs who throw for 300 yards and 3 TDs and the NFL knows it.

The NFL has been trying to help the offense and increase scoring for decades. Since the TV money got so big they went to running clocks to keep the games in the 3 hour window while increasing the number of commercials. That is why PI will always be a spot foul, it helps scoring.

Player safety is the new mandate but if they can protect QBs and diva WRs that is an added bonus. It all helps the offense. Guys like Edelman and Beasely would have a hard time surviving back in the day.

 

[Hoofbite]

im not up to snuff on FF but is FF really contributing to how the game on the field is being played? these pick plays are a direct result of numbers on FF? what else?

No.

 

[CCBoy]

Denial is apparently a great New England 'virtue.'

 

[gdogg24]

Our defenders need to be coached to fight through the pick, hell if they're gonna go around setting screens like this is basketball then it needs to be shown that it' a bad idea. Lay out a few of these guys and make them pay for setting picks. If you're lucky you might even throw the pick player into another one of their receivers lol

 

[gimmesix]

I agree that it needs to be called more, but I don't understand why the Cowboys don't pass receivers, if they are not pressing them at the line. It seems to me it would have been easier to coach the DBs that if the receivers cross that close to the line of scrimmage, the outside DB takes the receiver to the outside and the inside DB takes the one who goes inside. Communicate and pass.

 

[LandryFan]

I remember my people making the same complaint near 30 years ago.

I've been watching as an avid fan since around 1963. I honestly don't remember nearly the penalties that I've witnessed in the last two or three years.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I've been watching as an avid fan since around 1963. I honestly don't remember nearly the penalties that I've witnessed in the last two or three years.

I remember watching Commanders and Raiders games in the 80s and it being flagfests worse than this with flags literally every other play in long spurts. I remember some fairly bad Campo, Jimmy, Cupcake, and Parcells Cowboys teams that were just as bad or worse. Those last Landry years weren't exactly clinics on execution either for all that was done in the previous two and a half decades.

 

[LandryFan]

I remember watching Commanders and Raiders games in the 80s and it being flagfests worse than this with flags literally every other play in long spurts. I remember some fairly bad Campo, Jimmy, Cupcake, and Parcells Cowboys teams that were just as bad or worse. Those last Landry years weren't exactly clinics on execution either for all that was done in the previous two and a half decades.

I was thinking more league-wide rather than with a specific team/teams. I could be wrong...it just seems worse now to me.

 

[DogFace]

The quickest way to stop this with a rule change is for us to start doing it. I know how this sounds but I'm almost positive it would work.