The mobile QB is becoming such an advantage!

All the rules on "touching" the QB have made the running QB an absolute bigger threat. Take those rules away and the large advantage goes away with it.

IMO, Dallas should take a developmental QB this year, in the 5th since they have all the 5th round picks. Just get the best one, and see what you can develop. If that is Milroe or Leonard or even DJ U that I can't spell or even small school with the NFL arm..........just best one that you think has an extremely high ceiling. You can always draft another next year or the year after.
 
How are Aaron Rodgers and Joe Burrow against todays hybrid zones, show man then zone at snap...

Burrow always seems to dump the ball off when I watch him. Could be scheme, whatever....he is making the right play...and he does seem to have good placement like Rodgers...

Just seems like internet was fooling me with the stand in the pocket guy that has been harped for years because of Brady until Mahomes came along.

Just seems like bad advice was given out. Sure, a guy that is tall, can stand in pocket and make a throw while getting hit, that has a strong arm....is nice and all. Just how many are elite enough to get the job done.

Ive always thought having legs makes sense as a backup plan. Im ignorant on timing and all that. I get if your whole offense is timing based a tall, strong arm guy with a quick release and fairly accurate is really nice....I just dont see how many guys there are doing it well(Brady, Rodgers, Burrow, Manning)...and then this whole new zone stuff last few years seems to be giving even top end QBs trouble. So...if youre having trouble with zones...wouldnt having legs to buy time make sense?
 
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FanofJerry said:
How are Aaron Rodgers and Joe Burrow against todays hybrid zones, show man then zone at snap...

Burrow always seems to dump the ball off when I watch him. Could be scheme, whatever....he is making the right play...and he does seem to have good placement like Rodgers...

Just seems like internet was fooling me with the stand in the pocket guy that has been harped for years because of Brady until Mahomes came along.

Just seems like bad advice was given out. Sure, a guy that is tall, can stand in pocket and make a throw while getting hit, that has a strong arm....is nice and all. Just how many are elite enough to get the job done.

Ive always thought having legs makes sense as a backup plan. Im ignorant on timing and all that. I get if your whole offense is timing based a tall, strong arm guy with a quick release and fairly accurate is really nice....I just dont see how many guys there are doing it well(Brady, Rodgers, Burrow, Manning)...and then this whole new zone stuff last few years seems to be giving even top end QBs trouble. So...if youre having trouble with zones...wouldnt having legs to buy time make sense?
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I think in today’s NFL if you’re going to have a pocket passer he has to be an absolute dude…just like Joe that you referenced. He’s not going to do anything with his legs but he’s so special as a pocket passer it doesn’t matter.

You either need to have a above average OL with good weapons or a a QB that can create.

Dak is paid so we need to continue to draft OLmen and desperately need more weapons that even the mobile QBs have.
 
cnuball21 said:
Riley Leonard intrigues me. Gives me Daniel Jones vibes (when Jones plays well).

Great size, speed and good arm. Just needs some refinement.
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Agree here. If he was our 5th round pick, I would be happy!
 
cnuball21 said:
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I think in today’s NFL if you’re going to have a pocket passer he has to be an absolute dude…just like Joe that you referenced. He’s not going to do anything with his legs but he’s so special as a pocket passer it doesn’t matter.

You either need to have a above average OL with good weapons or a a QB that can create.

Dak is paid so we need to continue to draft OLmen and desperately need more weapons that even the mobile QBs have.
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Im trying...

I just looked up sack totals since 2022 through this year...Im low on energy and have absolutely no excel spreadsheet skills to import the data into a file and have excel do the math for me....I had to squint and give up to just rounding the numbers...the math isnt perfect...

But my eyes want to say that sacks per year are going up. They did from 2022 to 2023...and looks like 2024 was more than 2022. I could be wrong.

But...if sacks are going up, dlineman are more beastly these days and getting to qbs....just seems like legs would help.
 
cnuball21 said:
I think

I think in today’s NFL if you’re going to have a pocket passer he has to be an absolute dude…just like Joe that you referenced. He’s not going to do anything with his legs but he’s so special as a pocket passer it doesn’t matter.

You either need to have a above average OL with good weapons or a a QB that can create.

Dak is paid so we need to continue to draft OLmen and desperately need more weapons that even the mobile QBs have.
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Curious if its a business decision by the player and his Agent, we know what the agent wants...but I do find it odd that Dallas, my team, seemed to beef up their last two Qb's.

Romo could run/scramble well...we beefed him up and he lost it. Same thing with Dak, he could do it...but we beefed him up a bit and now he is slow.

I get that Romo started having rib injuries....but there are tons of QB's on teams that never beef up. But we do it and our guys lose a weapon. smh
 
Nobody can spin right out of the pocket and then take a sack at the 38-40 yard line like Dak.
 
Cowboyny said:
Just look at the 4 finalist, they all have mobile QB's. It is becoming such an advantage in having a QB to get that so called hidden yardage. Players like Allen/Hurts make the offense be in 1st and 8 every series, the likes of Mahomes/Daniels pick up gut wrenching 1st downs to defense due to their scramming abilities when a play breaks down.

What separates Mahomes/Allen is that they are elite passers first. They can beat you in so many ways and are very difficult to defend. These are the modern, next level QB's that every team is searching for.

Now the counter agrument, outside of Mahomes, none of these QB's have won a title. These QB's tend to always be banged up with their play style.
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Nobody going to agree with me but Dallas needs to try and resign Lance to a 2 year contract. He showed enough against Washington to be a quality backup for Dak. The kid is the same age as Daniels. I don’t want to waste 2025 draft capital on a developmental quarterback when we can just sign one who is not as talented.
 
baltcowboy said:
Nobody going to agree with me but Dallas needs to try and resign Lance to a 2 year contract. He showed enough against Washington to be a quality backup for Dak. The kid is the same age as Daniels. I don’t want to waste 2025 draft capital on a developmental quarterback when we can just sign one who is not as talented.
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I agree with you. They need a qb that can run.
 
Creeper said:
If you can find an elite running QB then why not? It causes problems for the defense because they have to account for the QB running the football. You can see what Hurts and Jaylen Daniels do to defenses. And of course Lamar is also a big problem, especially if you also have a dangerous RB.
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There was a time when they had two different distinctions.......... mobile QB vs running QB. Michael Vicks, RG3 were called running QBs. Mobile QBs if I remember correctly had excellent pocket awareness and could buy time using mobility within the pocket, think Romo.
 
baltcowboy said:
Nobody going to agree with me but Dallas needs to try and resign Lance to a 2 year contract. He showed enough against Washington to be a quality backup for Dak. The kid is the same age as Daniels. I don’t want to waste 2025 draft capital on a developmental quarterback when we can just sign one who is not as talented.
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I agree 100% ........ he has a ton of raw physical talent. Def a keep, you never know when the light may come on.
 
The term that comes to mind is Dual Threat QB. Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson type QBs are so valuable, I mean, who is Allen's #1WR? Who is Lamar's WR2? These guys elevate the offense.

On the other hand, a guy like Justin Fields is mobile and a great runner, but his passing makes him a liability unless properly managed thru a bus driver scheme.

I don't have an issue with Dallas keeping Lance as QB2 although I'd like them to draft a guy: Howard, Shough,McCord, or Gabriel. Mostly considered pocket passer, but they get the ball out.
 
the mobile QB thing might ruin the NFL

defenses are at a disadvantage.

too easy for the offense.
 
Its not just about mobility, they also need to have poise and the mental aspects too.
 
Chocolate Lab said:
He did have a 44 yard TD run yesterday in a game that went down to the wire.
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yeah this seems to get glossed over and discarded in convo's recently. hell i saw a goofy like 16 yd scramble from stafford as proof he's mobile the other day, but Dak had a legit game breaking / saving run and no mention at all.
 
Mobility has been an advantage for a very long time
 
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