The Most Overrated Team in the NFL is...

[EndGame]

Not only has Brady won three Super Bowls, last season when their running game was hurt by injuries, he took the team on his back. If I'm not mistaken, he led the league in passing.

 

[Silver Bullet]

Fairness dictates that we give credit where credit is due.

No one could or should deny that the Patriots did what a few -if any- could do in the post free agency NFL. Winning 3 Superbowls in 4 years under todays NFL is a HUGE accomplishment. Regardless of who should get the credit here, the Patriots without a doubt deserve the respect of any decent NFL fan for what they have done.

They didn't win any of their titles with style, but they sure won with class...

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[SkinsandTerps]

At this point, geologists are seriously considering adding Brunell to the human evolutionary chart

Even in your mind, Brunell alone doesnt exactly qualify as "alot" does he ?

 

[BigDFan5]

Even in your mind, Brunell alone doesnt exactly qualify as "alot" does he ?

No idea who he is talking about, but there are more than 2 guys over 30 on the Skins.

Jansen, Springs, Brunell, Salave, Wynn, Daniels, Fauria, Holdman, Thomas


Some contributors and starters 30 or older.

 

[fanfromarizona]

The great thing about the Foreskins is that there is really no upside to them They are old and overspent on a bunch of marginal players. 30 million each for Randal El, Carter and Archuletta. LOL What the hell are the thinking. Carter was a flash in the plan three years ago, Archuletta can't cover and Randel El is a 3rd receiver. Counting their draft, they had w/o a doubt one of the worst offseasons in the league. They will be lucky to make the playoffs.

Ok, let's dissect this post:

Randel El: Agreed he will wind up being a 3rd receiver. He will play in the slot against a #3 DB and he is a kick/punt returner, so that is an upgrade over what they had previously in Antonio Brown. He also will force teams to defend the gadget play. Play him too close and watch out for a run play, where he brings great blocking technique with him from the Steelers. This will be an upgrade for Clinton Portis.

[You forget about Brandon Lloyd]: He is going to spread the field sideline to sideline, Moss on one side and Lloyd on the other. I do believe he had one of his best games last year against your secondary when playing for the paltry 49ers. Fall back to adjust to Lloyd and you've just given more room for blockers to allow Portis a chance to do his thing. Combine the mentality of Al Saunders to have as *1* option the call for a flee flicker with the tandem of either Portis or Randel El doing a halfback toss to the likes of Moss, Lloyd or Cooley and you can begin to appreciate the value of Randel El and Lloyd and the value of adding a coach like Al Saunders.

Carter: You think Carter was drafted in this league to play as a Linebacker, which is where he has been playing lately? What was that 49ers defensive ranking? It gives me a lot of confidence knowing that where he played was based on the decisions of somebody else who effectively was given the lowest grade. Give me a break. He is going to be ready to unleash in the role Greg Williams will have him play. It's very simple: "Go straight for the QB".
No worries about playing outside his capabilities.

Archuletta: Archuletta does not need to cover. He will be used in blitzing attacks and in run support. Remember, the Commanders defense is a SYSTEM that is role-based and not individual-based. Each player plays a role in the system, that role is based on the strength of the individual player.

Structuring of contracts: Tired of this argument, cap hit is usually backloaded, contracts will not be renewed in the backloaded years if not worth it; in the event that the contract is reached in the 4th year, then they usually convert the contract to a signing bonus which spreads the hit out a few more years. It is how they have been managing the cap, keeping the players they need to win with, releasing those they don't. 6 year contracts if you looked carefully balloon in the latter years, and they entice free agents to coming because they offer the highest bonus, which is the ONLY thing guaranteed anymore, and even THAT is not guaranteed [signing bonuses are guaranteed, roster bonuses are not]. That is how the Commanders manage the cap "h e | | " prognosticators seem to predict for them. They went from 20 million over to managing to be under the cap and they did not have to make roster cuts that bit into the core.

 

[The30YardSlant]

Even in your mind, Brunell alone doesnt exactly qualify as "alot" does he ?

No, but Springs, Jansen, Wynn, Daniels, Salave (sp?), etc. do

 

[BeWare94]

Cowboys fans like to rag on the Skins, and that's understandable.
But remember this: the Skins have won three Super Bowls and have been to five. And they have traditionally done that by deemphasizing the draft and emphasizing trades and signing veterans.

It works for the Skins, and, apparently, it worked last year as the Skins not only whipped our behinds 35-7, but got into the playoffs and WON a playoff game.

And with the addition of the offensive coordinator from KC (can't remember his name right off hand) to par with defensive coordinator Greg Williams, don't think for a second the Skins won't be a challenge, especially with Gibbs, who is one of the best in-game strategists in the NFL.

I'm a Cowboys fan, but my fellow posters are deceiving themselves if they dismiss the Commanders.

The problem with Al Saunders is he can't bring Kansas City's offensive line and the rest of their weapons to Washington with him. Lot's of OCs could look really productive with an all pro at every position on the offensive line. Washington will be Saunders' real test.

 

[BeWare94]

Fairness dictates that we give credit where credit is due.

No one could or should deny that the Patriots did what a few -if any- could do in the post free agency NFL. Winning 3 Superbowls in 4 years under todays NFL is a HUGE accomplishment. Regardless of who should get the credit here, the Patriots without a doubt deserve the respect of any decent NFL fan for what they have done.

They didn't win any of their titles with style, but they sure won with class...


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And they didn't need any referees helping them, either.

 

[BeWare94]

Archuletta: Archuletta does not need to cover.

Your knowledge of the game is very limited. All safeties need to cover at some time in any defense. Yes, safeties blitz and offer run support but as "Safeties" coverage is their primary function. They are the last line of defense when teams go over the top against the cornerbacks. I've watched Roy Williams long enough to know that a safety who is a liability in coverage can hurt his team severely (i.e. Monday Night, week 2 this past season). The Cowboys dominated the Commanders all night except for two plays and won the game by one.

 

[fanfromarizona]

Your knowledge of the game is very limited. All safeties need to cover at some time in any defense. Yes, safeties blitz and offer run support but as "Safeties" coverage is their primary function. They are the last line of defense when teams go over the top against the cornerbacks. I've watched Roy Williams long enough to know that a safety who is a liability in coverage can hurt his team severely (i.e. Monday Night, week 2 this past season). The Cowboys dominated the Commanders all night except for two plays and won the game by one.

yes, coverage is their function, but in the scheme that you are describing, the defending zone is defended by all 11 players. You don't necessarily have to be playing deep to play coverage. In Arch's case, it's going to be playing close to the line. When you have strong corners you can afford the luxury of bringing someone like Arch close to the line. That is why Greg Williams is so specific as to who will be able to play in his system, his corners must be physical and capable of playing on an island by themselves, so far Springs has proven that, it is just a matter of time before Rogers will show the same flashes.

 

[aznhalf]

yes, coverage is their function, but in the scheme that you are describing, the defending zone is defended by all 11 players. You don't necessarily have to be playing deep to play coverage. In Arch's case, it's going to be playing close to the line. When you have strong corners you can afford the luxury of bringing someone like Arch close to the line. That is why Greg Williams is so specific as to who will be able to play in his system, his corners must be physical and capable of playing on an island by themselves, so far Springs has proven that, it is just a matter of time before Rogers will show the same flashes.

In this day and age no corners survive on an island. A team picks up a blitz and your done. Our 2003 defense used the same tactic, it catches up to you. Live by the blitz, die by the blitz.

So you're saying that you're never going to go into a cover 2, and you're never going to drop your SS into deep coverage? You realize teams don't generally bring a saftey into the box every down. He will be in coverage at least 50% of the plays even if they want to play him close to the line. You will definately see his coverage skills, or lack of this season.

 

[RealCowboyfan]

In this day and age no corners survive on an island. A team picks up a blitz and your done. Our 2003 defense used the same tactic, it catches up to you. Live by the blitz, die by the blitz.

So you're saying that you're never going to go into a cover 2, and you're never going to drop your SS into deep coverage? You realize teams don't generally bring a saftey into the box every down. He will be in coverage at least 50% of the plays even if they want to play him close to the line. You will definately see his coverage skills, or lack of this season.

Good point

 

[fanfromarizona]

In this day and age no corners survive on an island. A team picks up a blitz and your done. Our 2003 defense used the same tactic, it catches up to you. Live by the blitz, die by the blitz.

So you're saying that you're never going to go into a cover 2, and you're never going to drop your SS into deep coverage? You realize teams don't generally bring a saftey into the box every down. He will be in coverage at least 50% of the plays even if they want to play him close to the line. You will definately see his coverage skills, or lack of this season.

Let's see, we have what we call "formations": passing formations and running formations. Last I checked we had developed 20+ formations. You put your 11 out there and we do the same. Meaning that the best 11 guys go out for a specific type of defense. Whoever said that Archuletta will be "in" all of the formations? Is it possible that we could have a better player in the formation on passing plays and that Archuletta could get a breather? Interesting and novel.

Last I checked we had Pierson Prioleau, who has great coverage skills, or we could go with an additional DB in passing downs. Greg Williams has a SYSTEM that last I checked finished #3 two years ago and #9 last year and picks which player plays in which formation. We had some key injuries last year, and we STILL managed to finish top 10. It is a proven system that will only get better this offseason with our acquisitions both in free agency and the draft.

 

[aznhalf]

Let's see, we have what we call "formations": passing formations and running formations. Last I checked we had developed 20+ formations. You put your 11 out there and we do the same. Meaning that the best 11 guys go out for a specific type of defense. Whoever said that Archuletta will be "in" all of the formations? Is it possible that we could have a better player in the formation on passing plays and that Archuletta could get a breather? Interesting and novel.

Last I checked we had Pierson Prioleau, who has great coverage skills, or we could go with an additional DB in passing downs. Greg Williams has a SYSTEM that last I checked finished #3 two years ago and #9 last year and picks which player plays in which formation. We had some key injuries last year, and we STILL managed to finish top 10. It is a proven system that will only get better this offseason with our acquisitions both in free agency and the draft.

First of all, Prioleau does not have great coverage skills.

Second of all, bringing in an additional DB replaces a LB not your starting SS.

AA will see at least 80% of the defensive snaps barring injury next season. You don't bench your starting overpaid SS every passing down regardless of what package you have in.

It is pretty obvious that you have no idea what these 'formations' are. What do you do on 1st and 10? Pull AA out whenever 3 recievers line up and you go to your nickel? Teams can run in a 3 WR set just as easily as a team can pass in a 2 TE set.

No matter what you do AA is going to be out there on a lot of passing downs.

 

[visionary]

TO decide which is the most over-rated team you have to define what you mean by over-rated. Once you do that the answer will become clear:

Definition of over-rated: a team that wins the SB in the off season every year but dosent get a sniff of the SB. a team picked by mediots and fans every year to go to the SB based purely on off season moves, only to fall flat on its face year after year.

Answer: obviously the Commanders.

'nuff said.

 

[tyke1doe]

And they didn't need any referees helping them, either.

Cough ... tuck ... cough, cough.