News: The NFL’s System of Discipline Is An Absolute Joke

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The NFL’s System of Discipline Is An Absolute Joke
http://profootballtalkline.com/nfl-opinion/news/116405/nfl-system-of-discipline-is-joke.html/



On Tuesday night, the NFL announced another round of suspensions pertaining to a variety of conduct issues among players, such as drug use, PED use, and domestic violence. They also announced their denial of Julian Edelman’s appeal of his PED suspension. This dumping of discipline, as well as that of Jameis Winston which was announced earlier in the week, once again demonstrates the NFL’s discipline process to be a complete and utter joke. From arbitrary punishments to baffling social and moral ideals, the NFL’s attempt to administer “justice” across the league is an embarrassment to the game of football and American sports as a whole.

The NFL, like all other professional sports leagues, has a number of rules and restrictions that dictate the behaviors of players both on and off the field, from personal conduct policies to limits on the types of substances that players can put in their bodies (both recreationally and professionally). It is important to note that the NFL is not wrong for implementing these policies. Players should be held up to certain social and moral standards as they are both professionals and role models. In addition, while there are fair and reasonable debates that argue that players should be allowed to utilize some PED’s and some types of recreational drugs (such as marijuana), the NFL is still a private company and is allowed to place these restrictions on their employees if they see fit. The problem is not in these rules themselves, but rather in the bizarre and illogical way in which they are enforced.

Let’s start with the process itself. When an incident occurs with a player, the NFL investigates the situation and then uses the collected evidence to make an informed decision, through which they determine a punishment. Well, sometimes. Other times, such as with Ray Rice, the NFL does not independently or thoroughly investigate the situation at all, instead choosing to simply hear the player’s side of the story and make an arbitrary decision based on one meeting. In situations like this, the league puts absolutely no effort into searching for the truth of the matter, but rather hoping that a quick suspension will be able to push the matter out of people’s minds...
 

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Absolutely agree. Their process is a comedy act at best. The NFL is its worst own enemy. They dig up crap on players no one even heard about and suspend players. They drag this stuff out, stuff most casual fans wouldn't even be aware of if not for the NFL and their suspensions. They're making matters worse.

The only place I would disagree is with anyone thinking PEDs should be allowed. All that does if it were allowed is set a standard that our youth needs to consider. When should they start? Not a good idea.
 

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Just be consistent with suspensions. Doesn't seem that would be as hard to do as the league makes it look.
 

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Blame the 32 NFL owners for most for this mess.

Unlike the other pro sports leagues, NFL owners hire a commissioner to be their lackey and errand boy. Look at the commissioners of the NBA, NHL and MLB- they have systems of discipline that are easier to understand and have the support of its players. And they DO WHAT IS BEST FOR THE GAME FIRST, not just what is best for the owners’ cash registers.
 

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It seems to be a biased system. Elliot gets 6 mandatory games for a crime they have no proof he committed, was never arrested or charged and the NFL won’t even let the evidence the only woman that interviewed the gf for the NFL to be allowed in. It was a witch hunt. While others are allowed to slide or get lesser suspensions. Eli should have been suspended. Pretty good video evidence against obj but it’s seemingly dropped.
 

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Other sports leagues have learned how to be more discreet in how they handle their discipline and media exposure. I do wonder about the NFLs testing and interpretation of the results. There may more players and more chances than other leagues, but you don't have the same amount of frequency. You don't hear much about other sports players being suspended, other guys are surely using some recreational drugs, but I would guess many of those results are handled more discreetly.

When the public hears failed drug tests they think, recreational drug use or guys are purposely taking steroids. I think some of these failed tests are from a player taking a supplement and unaware of some of the ingredients, some have even asked their doctor's and were told it would be alright. I think in a lot of these cases, it's not nearly as sinister as they make it sound.

The purpose of the tests are to protect the players and also not give them a competitive edge. In some of these cases, the punishment outweighs the actual violation.
 

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The NFLPA signed off on the current disciplinary process in the last CBA.

It ain’t just the league that’s to blame for this mess.
 

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The owners need to step up and make some changes.
 

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The NFLPA signed off on the current disciplinary process in the last CBA.

It ain’t just the league that’s to blame for this mess.

I still can't believe Smith is still hired by the NFLPA.
 

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Other sports leagues have learned how to be more discreet in how they handle their discipline and media exposure. I do wonder about the NFLs testing and interpretation of the results. There may more players and more chances than other leagues, but you don't have the same amount of frequency. You don't hear much about other sports players being suspended, other guys are surely using some recreational drugs, but I would guess many of those results are handled more discreetly.

When the public hears failed drug tests they think, recreational drug use or guys are purposely taking steroids. I think some of these failed tests are from a player taking a supplement and unaware of some of the ingredients, some have even asked their doctor's and were told it would be alright. I think in a lot of these cases, it's not nearly as sinister as they make it sound.

The purpose of the tests are to protect the players and also not give them a competitive edge. In some of these cases, the punishment outweighs the actual violation.
Excellent points. The NFL seems more concerned about “being tough” with discipline instead of being fair.
 

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The players are at fault for allowing this system in the CBA. The owners are too shortsighted to see that the current system, while designed to keep the image of the league clean, actually has the opposite effect.
Have you heard the reason they didnt go on strike last CBA? It was due to not enough players having enough savings. Which i guess made Vince Young take out a high intrest loan. Its border line comical, multi millionaires not having enough savings.
 

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The players are at fault for allowing this system in the CBA. The owners are too shortsighted to see that the current system, while designed to keep the image of the league clean, actually has the opposite effect.

The NFL is the one that pushed for it. Sure the NFLPA accepted it but to say that only the players are to be held accountable is unreasonable IMO.

And then of course it is Goodell and his office that actually administer the process. Sure the NFLPA opened the door but that does not excuse this asinine process in place right now.
 

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Why is it always the nfl at fault ? Why not talk about how weak the players and their union are for allowing stuff they cry about now? How bout the player's stop doing dumb ****?
Seriously...... we all hate to see guys get railroaded but 90% of this stuff is self-inflicted

Look what McCoy is accused of doing to his girl......horrible
 
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