The NFL has changed tackle football forever this year

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These millennials are turned off by the "brutality" of football, thus they won't watch it and definitely won't participate in it. They are now the majority and will soon be in charge of things......this will be the end of football as we know it.
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They are taking away what made the NFL popular. Now it's all offense and fantasy football.
 

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As long as the refs don't muck it up by going overboard, as they are want to do, this will be fine.
 

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No, this is just the NFL playing then "we care" card in a CYA move. At some point, I believe they will need to play the "look at all the things we've enacted for the safety of the players" card to counter how people will react to the knowledge they had about concussions and still sent players back in the game. They are guarding that information with everything they've got because if the public, not necessarily fans, finds out what they knew and when they knew it, there will be an accounting.

I am pretty much caveat emptor with pro football but I do think they need all of the information. I don't think it will deter many as only one young player has hung it up, that kid from the Niners.

What I don't get is how is this any different from auto racing, boxing, MMA which all have risks involved? Anyone watch a pro game and think that looks like a safe way to spend a Sunday afternoon?

The real issue for me is how they treated the players back then with rung bells and frowning on any second opinions to the point of job security. But the knowledge of the impact of concussions was dark ages back then but we know they would do anything to a player to get him back in the game. Those guys were treated like pieces of meat but today's players have a lot of people looking out for them, they can afford it.
Soon this will effect there pockets. ALL THE POCKETS. Sunday ticket on directv will take a hit. If they don’t give me a great deal this year I won’t get it. Viewing is down. Ticket sales are down. The whole bringing politics into the NFL with the kneeling hurt them. The way goodell is using his power to punish some and let others go has turned people off.

The way rules are getting bent around has changed peoples views. Dez caught that ball. It was a bending of the rule that overturned it and other catches like it.

The way JJ runs his team has turned people off.

Every time they do something to change this sport its just asking for trouble. Wrap these players in bubble wrap or put flags on them and see what happens.

I knew when these scientific studies came out about the long term issues of having several concussions and collisions and the effects on the brain came out (it was some initials I can’t remember, I probly ate paint chips or something as a kid) that changes were coming. Then the fact apparently the NFL was hiding it. That was a mistake and now the NFL is gonna pay. In money.

But when the NFL gravy train comes tumbling down it’s gonna take everyone with it.

Media, already seen Espn let some go.

Owners will start looking to sell the teams. This profit sharing program will be scrapped. JJ and other big major money owners writes a big check every year to help support teams like the browns and jags and teams that aren’t making the revenue.

If you see JJ selling his team then it’s not cause he got your letters. He knows it’s going down and he is getting out while he can still turn a profit.

The NFL commish will no longer get paid the big money.

And the players will be asking for more money or retirement or some benefits and the money will be dried up.

No more QB making 30 million a year. They can make the salary cap as big as they want but teams won’t be able to use it, they won’t have the revenue.

When it hits the players pockets it will be interesting. They know what they do is harmful to health. That’s why they get paid the big bucks.
 

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Soon this will effect there pockets. ALL THE POCKETS. Sunday ticket on directv will take a hit. If they don’t give me a great deal this year I won’t get it. Viewing is down. Ticket sales are down. The whole bringing politics into the NFL with the kneeling hurt them. The way goodell is using his power to punish some and let others go has turned people off.

The way rules are getting bent around has changed peoples views. Dez caught that ball. It was a bending of the rule that overturned it and other catches like it.

The way JJ runs his team has turned people off.

Every time they do something to change this sport its just asking for trouble. Wrap these players in bubble wrap or put flags on them and see what happens.

I knew when these scientific studies came out about the long term issues of having several concussions and collisions and the effects on the brain came out (it was some initials I can’t remember, I probly ate paint chips or something as a kid) that changes were coming. Then the fact apparently the NFL was hiding it. That was a mistake and now the NFL is gonna pay. In money.

But when the NFL gravy train comes tumbling down it’s gonna take everyone with it.

Media, already seen Espn let some go.

Owners will start looking to sell the teams. This profit sharing program will be scrapped. JJ and other big major money owners writes a big check every year to help support teams like the browns and jags and teams that aren’t making the revenue.

If you see JJ selling his team then it’s not cause he got your letters. He knows it’s going down and he is getting out while he can still turn a profit.

The NFL commish will no longer get paid the big money.

And the players will be asking for more money or retirement or some benefits and the money will be dried up.

No more QB making 30 million a year. They can make the salary cap as big as they want but teams won’t be able to use it, they won’t have the revenue.

When it hits the players pockets it will be interesting. They know what they do is harmful to health. That’s why they get paid the big bucks.
It’s much easier to deal with a downturn in revenue than the sovereignty of the league dissolved over litigation.
 

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That’s right it is. And Goodell is taking it on and why the owners support his efforts. It’s not a popular effort with fans.

But it’s necessary to protect the image and sovereignty of the game against legal liabilities which ultimately threaten the leagues future.

The league's future is already threatened. Kids are not going to be allowed to play. The pool of players will shrink and there is no international contingent to fill the void. The league and players need to kick the lawyers out and acknowledge there are risks assumed when you play football. The league needs to crack down on dirty plays and invest in R&D to come up with the best equipment. That is all they can do. All this other nonsense hurts the image of the league / game. Goodell has really hurt the NFL.
 

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Huh? I can't make any sense out of this.

Gooddell is doing what he was hired to do. Clean up the game and prepare for future lawsuits. There is absolutely no political correctness involved.

Seriously, I really don't understand what you're saying. I don't see anything Gooddell has allowed.

I hope you are being sarcastic. Please Lord let that be the case.
 

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The league's future is already threatened. Kids are not going to be allowed to play. The pool of players will shrink and there is no international contingent to fill the void. The league and players need to kick the lawyers out and acknowledge there are risks assumed when you play football. The league needs to crack down on dirty plays and invest in R&D to come up with the best equipment. That is all they can do. All this other nonsense hurts the image of the league / game. Goodell has really hurt the NFL.
In other words your suggesting to continue ahead driving off the cliff instead of taking more calculated risk to preserve the league despite however it compromises the game?

Your assuming the league is actually interested in the safety of the players . Their interest is only in providing a perception to stifle litigation.
 

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As long as the refs don't muck it up by going overboard, as they are want to do, this will be fine.
The NCAA provided a fine example in how this rule will be administered.

And they’ll be able to review the monitor . There was one game I saw where they reversed their decision after further review in which they initially kicked the player out.

I think it’s much less subjective than holding and interference judgement calls. I don’t recall seeing anyone flagged or booted which wasn’t warranted.
 

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More flags.. how great is that?!!
This is my issue. I am fine with making the game safe but we really need to streamline the rules so we can get games done faster. You spend more time watching commercials and waiting for the replay decision than the actual game.
 

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This makes me believe it is now possible for another league to be successful.

Have their players sign a full waiver, and institute 1990 NFL rules. Fully guarantee contracts, and make it player friendly from the contract standpoint.

That would create a stark marketing difference they can sell.
 

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This makes me believe it is now possible for another league to be successful.

Have their players sign a full waiver, and institute 1990 NFL rules. Fully guarantee contracts, and make it player friendly from the contract standpoint.

That would create a stark marketing difference they can sell.

You didn't think it was possible but there's 2 leagues on the horizon and some NFL fans are just looking for a reason to jump ship. Some have already. Plus if it's competitive and cost effective, the NFL giant could start seeing some cracks in the armor.
 

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This is my issue. I am fine with making the game safe but we really need to streamline the rules so we can get games done faster. You spend more time watching commercials and waiting for the replay decision than the actual game.

There's too many flags already. Every year they come up with new reasons to throw more? But yet keep looking for ways to speed games up??
 

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This makes me believe it is now possible for another league to be successful.

Have their players sign a full waiver, and institute 1990 NFL rules. Fully guarantee contracts, and make it player friendly from the contract standpoint.

That would create a stark marketing difference they can sell.
I have already heard the NFL contracts will soon get smaller but be all guaranteed. We will see more and more demands for more money from agents.
 

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This is going to be a tough rule to officiate don’t know how they’re going to officiate it. I know the league wants to promote safety but this may be going a little too far. This could really slow down the game with all the penalties being called. Players are so instinctive they’re going to have to retrain themselves. There’s going to be a lot of accidental contact where both players are lowering their heads.
I said this earlier. It will slow the game down. And just like we saw with other rules like defenders hitting helmet to helmet it needs time to learn.
 

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In other words your suggesting to continue ahead driving off the cliff instead of taking more calculated risk to preserve the league despite however it compromises the game?

Your assuming the league is actually interested in the safety of the players . Their interest is only in providing a perception to stifle litigation.

Driving off the cliff? Where did I say that. I offered a practical approach - which is happening. R&D on safety and equipment and penalize dirty plays. There is not much more they can do to protect the integrity of tackle football. Don't try to come up with strawman arguments because you don't agree with me.
 

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The league's future is already threatened. Kids are not going to be allowed to play. The pool of players will shrink and there is no international contingent to fill the void. The league and players need to kick the lawyers out and acknowledge there are risks assumed when you play football. The league needs to crack down on dirty plays and invest in R&D to come up with the best equipment. That is all they can do. All this other nonsense hurts the image of the league / game. Goodell has really hurt the NFL.
Goodell does not make these decisions. The owners do.
 

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Driving off the cliff? Where did I say that. I offered a practical approach - which is happening. R&D on safety and equipment and penalize dirty plays. There is not much more they can do to protect the integrity of tackle football. Don't try to come up with strawman arguments because you don't agree with me.
I used that reference because I don’t believe your practical approach addressses the perception to the extent necessary to stave off the litigation the leagues most concerned with.

Sorry if the “ driving off a cliff” was too dramatic.

Like I said in another post the league doesn’t actually have the the players best interest at heart. These decisions are done to protect their image and present a perception they’re taking action.
 

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I used that reference because I don’t believe your practical approach addressses the perception to the extent necessary to stave off the litigation the leagues most concerned with.

Sorry if the “ driving off a cliff” was too dramatic.

Like I said in another post the league doesn’t actually have the the players best interest at heart. These decisions are done to protect their image and present a perception they’re taking action.

I agree somewhat but the league is changing now because they have to. I just hope they don't materially impact the way the game is played. 250-300 pound men colliding is going to get people hurt. No way around that.
 

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I agree somewhat but the league is changing now because they have to. I just hope they don't materially impact the way the game is played. 250-300 pound men colliding is going to get people hurt. No way around that.
Of course it’s going to change and or impact how the game is played.

That’s collateral damage the league is prepared to undertake. Unfortunately its better than increasing the legal liabilities.
 
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