The NFL has changed tackle football forever this year

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You didn't think it was possible but there's 2 leagues on the horizon and some NFL fans are just looking for a reason to jump ship. Some have already. Plus if it's competitive and cost effective, the NFL giant could start seeing some cracks in the armor.

My hope is that society will eventually push back. There's this huge movement these days to turn all men into NPR beta males and suppress traditional masculinity because of a few bad eggs. We're in a Jeff Bezos/Bill Gates world now, where the techie nerds are now in charge of everything and the popular athletic kids from high school now report to them.

Academia has ALWAYS resented football and how it controls the purse strings and prideful narrative of a major university. These CTE studies are not only revealing, they also present an opportunity to skewer the sport altogether and balance the internal power at these campuses. The rest of the athletic department depends on football, too, other than those few basketball schools that carry their own weight. (Not to mention what football brings to the university directly and indirectly as a whole in research grant money.)

I couldn't adopt another league as my place to go. I'd just as soon drop the sport altogether. Pop Warner leagues are shrinking rapidly, which means high schools won't get fed with the same caliber athletes, nor the colleges from the high schools, and eventually the NFL from the draft. The system of talent is very much at risk right now.
 

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The NFL is dead. Why are you guys still watching it?
The NFL is ever evolving . The game has changed dramatically over the last 60 years I’ve been watching but football is America’s game and will continue to be popular despite whatever tweaks are necessary to preserve it from the current social deterrence which threaten its existence.
 

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You didn't think it was possible but there's 2 leagues on the horizon and some NFL fans are just looking for a reason to jump ship. Some have already. Plus if it's competitive and cost effective, the NFL giant could start seeing some cracks in the armor.
I grew up when College Football was more popular than the NFL. And besides watching the Cowboy game , I still enjoy Saturday over Sunday competition.

I think we might be beginning to see that trend shift back which would be fine with me, I think the NFL has become over saturated with games on Thursday thru Monday . Two games on Sunday is enough for me as long as one of them is my local team, the Cowboys.

And I’d be fine with the NFL scaling back to when it was more of a Part Time job. TV viewership and these pimped up stadiums with sponsors are driving all of this additional revenue which isn’t necessary to play the game.

I love the tradition of College football playing in the same stadiums my father and grandfather attended with the history attached.
 

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I grew up when College Football was more popular than the NFL. And besides watching the Cowboy game , I still enjoy Saturday over Sunday competition.

I think we might be beginning to see that trend shift back which would be fine with me, I think the NFL has become over saturated with games on Thursday thru Monday . Two games on Sunday is enough for me as long as one of them is my local team, the Cowboys.

And I’d be fine with the NFL scaling back to when it was more of a Part Time job. TV viewership and these pimped up stadiums with sponsors are driving all of this additional revenue which isn’t necessary to play the game.

I love the tradition of College football playing in the same stadiums my father and grandfather attended with the history attached.
I agree. The NFL is over saturated. I prefer my football on Sunday.
 

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Or perhaps it's "revolving". As in clockwise around a drain.

It's going to look a lot like 7-on-7 in another decade.
We’ll see. I think that’s an extreme example but the NFL is afterall an entertainment sports league so anything is possible.

But without taking these measures to stave off the potential burdens which could potentially threaten its existence you could be right.

I see the NCAA as ahead of the curve with these Universities so dependent on the financial endowments sports generates from its Alumni and the lifeblood it contributes to all of the other scholarship athletes and sports.

Athletics is a vital component for all of these major universities in which they have much more invested and more to lose than some wealthy owners in a sports league. And football fuels it all for most.
 

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We’ll see. I think that’s an extreme example but the NFL is afterall an entertainment sports league so anything is possible.

But without taking these measures to stave off the potential burdens which could potentially threaten its existence you could be right.

I see the NCAA as ahead of the curve with these Universities so dependent on the financial endowments sports generates from its Alumni and the lifeblood it contributes to all of the other scholarship athletes and sports.

Athletics is a vital component for all of these major universities in which they have much more invested and more to lose than some wealthy owners in a sports league. And football fuels it all for most.
I have a neighbor buddy who coaches youth football at the 10-11 year old age group. He said their league typically has 9 or 10 teams each season.

This year, they have two teams, and they had to combine with two other city leagues that were having the same problem to get to 9 teams.

That's the real problem here.

They've got a mama problem.
 

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I have a neighbor buddy who coaches youth football at the 10-11 year old age group. He said their league typically has 9 or 10 teams each season.

This year, they have two teams, and they had to combine with two other city leagues that were having the same problem to get to 9 teams.

That's the real problem here.
No doubt it’s an issue in the more affluent neighborhoods. I recall you mentioning this before.

Those parents aren’t allowing or are discouraging their kids to participate in football especially when most of the competition they’ll be facing are much bigger, faster and less disciplined athletes.
 

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No doubt it’s an issue in the more affluent neighborhoods. I recall you mentioning this before.

Those parents aren’t allowing or are discouraging their kids to participate in football especially when most of the competition they’ll be facing are much bigger, faster and less disciplined athletes.

That last part is not actually true. Keep in mind that Highland Park, Southlake, Allen, Plano....these are areas of traditional powerhouse high school programs, and they are comprised of kids from affluent families. They destroy most of the high schools in the Dallas and Fort Worth inner cities. On an individual basis, yes, you're right about top talent.

As my friend said, Alabama and Ohio State won't be affected, but good luck to Oklahoma State and TCU of having anything left to pick from.
 

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I have a neighbor buddy who coaches youth football at the 10-11 year old age group. He said their league typically has 9 or 10 teams each season.

This year, they have two teams, and they had to combine with two other city leagues that were having the same problem to get to 9 teams.

That's the real problem here.

They've got a mama problem.
Also to follow up and I must admit I’m not in the loop with Pop Warner football but most of these High School elite programs are not having these issues which they begin grooming kids in Jr High.

I haven’t read or heard of any of these issues at this level. But I think I recall watching a documentary on exactly what you were suggesting. Not sure of the impact at the next level in high school yet?
 

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That last part is not actually true. Keep in mind that Highland Park, Southlake, Allen, Plano....these are areas of traditional powerhouse high school programs, and they are comprised of kids from affluent families. They destroy most of the high schools in the Dallas and Fort Worth inner cities. On an individual basis, yes, you're right about top talent.

As my friend said, Alabama and Ohio State won't be affected, but good luck to Oklahoma State and TCU of having anything left to pick from.
Yes they are the more dominant teams in that area in 6A but mostly based on their huge attendance to draw from and schools like Allen ( I believe is largest school in the state)and Plano have just enough ethnic mix to make a difference. Plano not the powerhouse they used to be as its pushed to Allen.

Southlake is a rare exception like Austin Lake Travis and their programs starts them off young there as I referenced above. Great programs !

And there’s still schools like Desoto & Cedar Hill which are more ethnic driven in area that have won state championships recently,
 

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When they started the rule for the RB they called it the murray rule. Lol. But I never saw them throw the flag for it.

Next will be the Elliot rule for hurdling players. It’s just to dangerous.

Yep, a hurdling player might fall on the crown of his helmet.
 

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That last part is not actually true. Keep in mind that Highland Park, Southlake, Allen, Plano....these are areas of traditional powerhouse high school programs, and they are comprised of kids from affluent families. They destroy most of the high schools in the Dallas and Fort Worth inner cities. On an individual basis, yes, you're right about top talent.

As my friend said, Alabama and Ohio State won't be affected, but good luck to Oklahoma State and TCU of having anything left to pick from.
I live in highland park. we've had great teams since the 70's. a lot of it had to do with coaching. it was almost a scandal when schools in Richardson learned in the early 80's that our coach, frank bevers was making over 70,000 a year, far more than any other teacher in the area. more than most college professors at smu, too for that matter. the affluent communities can afford the best facilities as well as send their kids to special camps for further development that others can't afford. stephens qb son has led the scots to 2 texas championships in a row.
 

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The catch rule change is getting all the attention, but this next rule change will be more destructive to the NFL than the Blandino debacle.

Pssst. You're hearing this from me, someone who has argued the catch rule for months at a time!!!

Running backs and blockers and tackler can no longer lower their head to initiate contact. The NFL is changed forever if this is upheld. Tackle football might as well be flag football now. Get these clowns out of the NFL rule makers circle!

The NFL will be unwatchable as this goes forward, and Directv will feel the financial pain.

I dont know if you been watching but the NFL changed when they decided to get Peyton Manning a superbowl because NE's defense was beating him up everytime they played. Or you can go further and say it started changing when the NFL got tired of Reggie White being destroyed by Erik Williams
 

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And there’s still schools like Desoto & Cedar Hill which are more ethnic driven in area that have won state championships recently,

I see that differently. Though the ethnic makeup is much the same as south Dallas, Cedar Hill and DeSoto have a much more stable family-unit base with a stronger economic and academic performance level. I think that translates to highly organized sports like football. Obviously, the supreme athletes are usually going to rise to the top no matter where they are from, but that foundation can be everything.

And it looks like the participation level in those areas are holding, whereas it's declining in other areas.
 

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Yeah I played. Many years. I don't need you to tell me how to play football. And when I knew I had to get that extra yard I put my head down to get leverage and gain momentum so I could smash through and get that extra yard or two. This was taught to me by my head coach, who happened to play in the NFL.

Lowering your head is part of football and if you don't know that then you must have played in some pansy league with pink uniforms. So kindly remove yourself from my nuts.
You are lucky you can still walk if that is what your incompetent coach taught you. Lowering your head is bad form and will get you paralyzed or worse. If you don't know better then you do need me telling you the correct way to tackle. You tuff guy with an ill-informed brain.
 

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That's not true, go look at game tape from 70 through 2000. Plenty good tackles with guts lowering head, and blocks. And protecting urself being a ball carrier. That's what the announcers are telling you because they are sold out to the powers of the nfl spreading a false paradigm, and killing the game. Let the guys play. You don't want yo get hurt? Go play checkers. The fact is these new guys suck because they don't get enough tackling to learn anything. The body goes where the head leads. You want to pop someone with ur shoulder, get ur head headed toward the spot you want to hit which most often is going down rather than up. And the head guides the body, ask divers and gymnasts. What the nfl is requiring is stupid straight madness
 
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