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Without Dak taking an actual pay cut or being released, the contract will eventually have to paid. Restructuring just changes when money and bonus are paid to alter the cap hit, it doesn't change that the money will eventually. have to be paid.

You are interpreting this contract completely wrong. Dak has already been paid.. He got a 70 million dollar signing bonus the day he signed the contract. That money done already changed hands. His weekly salary this year is less than a million per if I recall correctly. Dak's contract was also a 6 year deal with the last two voidable.. Meaning the Cowboys will be able to walk away from him after year 4 if he sucks.. Of course he won't but they could.. If he continues on his current trajectory they will be able to work those two voidable years into an extension of this contract or into the new one. We know that QBs who are even average get to play till they are 40 barring some catastrophic injury.. see Ryan Fitzpatrick. Dak is 28.. which means the Cowboys have at least 12 years left to work his monies.. With that in mind I have zero concerns about his contract over the next decade .. When the next TV deal and the streaming money kicks in the cap is going to probably double over that time frame. Worrying about Dak's money is a complete waste of time.
 

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Dallas had an 8-8 record in 2019...that is not winning but average....and what did Dallas win? 1 playoff game....yeah, so much winning.

Keep moving it around till you only see the part of the picture you wanna see right.. Problem is you can't limit others from seeing the whole picture... Dak was not a great QB in 2019 or at any point before that. I'm pretty sure I've said that about 100 times on this forum. However he is getting closer every day.. He may already be there and we just have had such crappy defense since he got there that we can't recognize it because we don't have wins to show for it. Again.. defense holds the lead against Seattle and Tampa Dak is 4-2 in his last 6 without changing anything he did.. Get a hold against Cleveland when he was completely on fire he's probably 5-1. Yes people like to point to the miracle screwup by ATL as a potential loss. If they can play the what if game with that game why can't I play the what if game in our favor?
 

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You are interpreting this contract completely wrong. Dak has already been paid.. He got a 70 million dollar signing bonus the day he signed the contract. That money done already changed hands. His weekly salary this year is less than a million per if I recall correctly. Dak's contract was also a 6 year deal with the last two voidable.. Meaning the Cowboys will be able to walk away from him after year 4 if he sucks.. Of course he won't but they could.. If he continues on his current trajectory they will be able to work those two voidable years into an extension of this contract or into the new one. We know that QBs who are even average get to play till they are 40 barring some catastrophic injury.. see Ryan Fitzpatrick. Dak is 28.. which means the Cowboys have at least 12 years left to work his monies.. With that in mind I have zero concerns about his contract over the next decade .. When the next TV deal and the streaming money kicks in the cap is going to probably double over that time frame. Worrying about Dak's money is a complete waste of time.

If I'm not mistaken, Romo's contract was also structured similarly........
 

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I don't know if Dak exactly silenced his critics.
Critics expect more than playing good in your opening game.
There's this whole matter of leading your team to the playoffs and eventually a Super Bowl (win).
 

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Keep moving it around till you only see the part of the picture you wanna see right.. Problem is you can't limit others from seeing the whole picture... Dak was not a great QB in 2019 or at any point before that. I'm pretty sure I've said that about 100 times on this forum. However he is getting closer every day.. He may already be there and we just have had such crappy defense since he got there that we can't recognize it because we don't have wins to show for it. Again.. defense holds the lead against Seattle and Tampa Dak is 4-2 in his last 6 without changing anything he did.. Get a hold against Cleveland when he was completely on fire he's probably 5-1. Yes people like to point to the miracle screwup by ATL as a potential loss. If they can play the what if game with that game why can't I play the what if game in our favor?

Many of the "what if" individuals, only understand it from their point of view. When counteracted, they have no reply at all.
 

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I don't know if Dak exactly silenced his critics.
Critics expect more than playing good in your opening game.
There's this whole matter of leading your team to the playoffs and eventually a Super Bowl (win).

Those critics are going to be sorely disappointed if the defense keeps giving up 30+ points a game. Neither Dak nor any other QB in the history of the NFL will be able to lead any team to a Super Bowl with the defense doing that.
 

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Dallas had an 8-8 record in 2019...that is not winning but average....and what did Dallas win? 1 playoff game....yeah, so much winning.
Right. The team is average to slightly above average with Prescott averaging 10 wins a year with him, without him we were 6-10. And we were really bad after Dak went down until we had a backup like Dalton come in who is at least more of a starter caliber.

Similar to Romo era in which we were more like a 4-6 win team without Romo. I think most fans and at least most analysts see both QB’s while not great enough to carry their team further without a stronger supporting cast agree were not a contributing factor to their lack of success. Would you say that’s fair ?

Surely , we aren’t solely attaching the success of the team to our QB? But if you are we can certainly provide an argument which supports our teams wouldn’t have been as successful without them .
 

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You are interpreting this contract completely wrong. Dak has already been paid.. He got a 70 million dollar signing bonus the day he signed the contract. That money done already changed hands. His weekly salary this year is less than a million per if I recall correctly. Dak's contract was also a 6 year deal with the last two voidable.. Meaning the Cowboys will be able to walk away from him after year 4 if he sucks.. Of course he won't but they could.. If he continues on his current trajectory they will be able to work those two voidable years into an extension of this contract or into the new one. We know that QBs who are even average get to play till they are 40 barring some catastrophic injury.. see Ryan Fitzpatrick. Dak is 28.. which means the Cowboys have at least 12 years left to work his monies.. With that in mind I have zero concerns about his contract over the next decade .. When the next TV deal and the streaming money kicks in the cap is going to probably double over that time frame. Worrying about Dak's money is a complete waste of time.

I am not reading it wrong. I don't care personally how much money is going into Dak's bank account. I care about the cap hit and how it effects the team. Dak accounts for 17 this year, 34 next, then 45 then 48. That money will only grow to larger cap hits down the line if they restructure.
 

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I am not reading it wrong. I don't care personally how much money is going into Dak's bank account. I care about the cap hit and how it effects the team. Dak accounts for 17 this year, 34 next, then 45 then 48. That money will only grow to larger cap hits down the line if they restructure.


But the cap will grow with it...the cap is set to take a pretty big jump
 

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But the cap will grow with it...the cap is set to take a pretty big jump

Yes and I mentioned that I agree that the cap will grow. But, this talk that his contract isn't really what it is just isn't true. His average cap hit before year 5 when the Cowboys can void it is $39 million per year.
 

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Yes and I mentioned that I agree that the cap will grow. But, this talk that his contract isn't really what it is just isn't true. His average cap hit before year 5 when the Cowboys can void it is $39 million per year.


Which will not be near the top by that time though...in the QB market in 5 years that will be a steal for a franchise QB
 

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Which will not be near the top by that time though...in the QB market in 5 years that will be a steal for a franchise QB

If he proves to be worth the money, I agree. It will be tough to build that defense with the amount of money put into the offense. We will see I guess.
 

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If he proves to be worth the money, I agree. It will be tough to build that defense with the amount of money put into the offense. We will see I guess.


But its like watching the WFT..does building a good defense with bad QB play win either? I think Brady and BB have jaded alot of folks...its not as easy as they made it seem...the odds are better Pat Mahommes does not make it back to a ring than they are he will..it really is that hard in a salary cap era that injuries kill a season.

Edit: Not that you just meant Dak BTW I know you meant the overall diference between O and D and i agree with you.
 

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I am not reading it wrong. I don't care personally how much money is going into Dak's bank account. I care about the cap hit and how it effects the team. Dak accounts for 17 this year, 34 next, then 45 then 48. That money will only grow to larger cap hits down the line if they restructure.
Right ..

2021 - 17 million
2022- 34 million
2023- 46 million
2024- 48 million
Cap Hits per season

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/dallas-cowboys/dak-prescott-19089/#:~:text=In 2021, Prescott will earn a base salary,NFL contract specifics generally collected from verified reports.
 
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