The NFL's Official Change to What Is A Catch: Dez Bryant play rule rewritten *merge*

[Frozen700]

This is true. Even before the call, the ref in the booth was explaining to Aikman and Buck exactly why the call would be overturned. The call was consistent with the rule. It sucks that it is but some of y'all need to stop crying and move on

Agreed....

Because I know damn well, this while forum, including myself, would have said it was incomplete if it was greenbay.

 

[5Stars]

Agreed....

Because I know damn well, this while forum, including myself, would have said it was incomplete if it was greenbay.

Would you keep posting! Damn...

 

[blindzebra]

OK I see. But I didn't see dez make a football move besides fall off balance to the ground.

After he landed on both feet he turned 90 degrees toward the end zone, took a step, changed the ball from both hands to his left, lunged and kicked up turf with his left foot, put his right hand down and pushed off it toward the goal line, and extended the ball with his left hand...take your pick, because they are all moves common to the game.

 

[xwalker]

He had 2 feet down but he didn't control the ball going to the ground. Johnson used the ball to brace himself. I see why both were incomplete.

It was more than 2 feet. He came down with the ball, landed on his left foot, then his right foot touched and then his left foot touched again. That is 2 full steps. There is no way it is not a catch if he takes 5 steps even if he is stumbling the entire time. I understand if he comes down and only 1 foot touches before he goes to the ground or even if both feet touch and then he goes to the ground, but when he has 3 feet down (i.e 2 full steps) then the going to he ground issue should no longer be in play just like it wouldn't be in play if he took 5 steps.

 

[xwalker]

After 2 feet and control Dez took a step, so initial contact with left foot, right hand, wrist and elbow hit next, left knee hit, left forearm and then the ball touched the ground. By my count 6 body parts hit before the ball came loose, and if you want to eliminate hands and feet (per old rules), you still have right wrist and elbow, left knee and left forearm.

The full sequence was:
catch in the air with control
left foot down
right foot down
left foot down again
right hand, wrist and elbow
left knee
left forearm
ball touched the ground.

 

[Kevinicus]

The full sequence was:
catch in the air with control
left foot down
right foot down
left foot down again
right hand, wrist and elbow
left knee
left forearm
ball touched the ground.

So, in other words...he had it after initial contact with the ground.

 

[big dog cowboy]

The full sequence was:
catch in the air with control
left foot down
right foot down
left foot down again
right hand, wrist and elbow
left knee
left forearm
ball touched the ground.

Don't forget he got touched by the defense so when he hit the ground he should have been called down there OR it should have been ruled a fumble with him recovering it in the end zone for a TD.

 

[DejectedFan1996]

I can't believe how much this play is now burning me up. I literally didn't feel anything at all from January-June. I don't know why all of a sudden this is getting to me. Especially the fact that Dez switched hands.

These 48 days can't go faster...

 

[Boyzmamacita]

I hope the Cowboys get the last laugh.

 

[Frozen700]

Would you keep posting! Damn...

 

[percyhoward]

Agreed....

Because I know damn well, this while forum, including myself, would have said it was incomplete if it was greenbay.

So forget that it was Dez Bryant. Is a player, any player, who switches the ball cleanly from two hands to one STILL trying to catch the ball?

That's why they put the football move in the rule book in the first place. They were actually interested in knowing if the guy had indeed caught the ball. Now they're just worried about covering their *****.

By saying that Dez didn't perform a football move, Blandino ran head-on into established precedent. Changing the rule solved that problem, because the phrase "upright long enough" now takes it into the realm of total subjectivity. Blandino will decide how upright is "upright" and how long is "long enough."

 

[percyhoward]

OK I see. But I didn't see dez make a football move besides fall off balance to the ground.

A football move is any act common to the game that isn't a part of the catch itself, but comes AFTER the catch. Switching the ball to one arm after a catch is a classic football move, for example. We also know from Blandino's explanations of previous similar plays that reaching for the goal line is a football move.

The football move is the thing that the player does that clinches the fact that he's no longer just trying to catch the ball.

 

[burmafrd]

this is just stupid to keep on harping on what clearly was a catch to anyone that knows football. Only the morons in the NFL front office think otherwise because they have to cover their butts due to that stupid rule that should have never been written in the first place,

 

[nalam]

It tells me that they know that Dez's catch was complete and they made a mistake. .....


Maybe that clown Blandino can take time from his busy schedule of putting the Grecian Hair Formula for men and explain how the catch made by a Packers receiver before the half where the tip of the ball not only hit the ground once, but twice...was a catch

YR

This ,

If that packers catch was a catch after review , tell me how come Dez's is not ???

The worst part is if lunging for goal line is not a football move, after getting both feet in and switching ball from 2 hands to one hand , then I don't know what's football move, so in essence they took those words out of the rule and put " upright long enough " so that it's now up to interpretation of refs...

 

[nathanlt]

Based on the way the rules, it wasn't a catch, just move on.

Wow, you didn't read the rule either. BY RULE, it WAS A CATCH. Dez held onto the ball throughout the process of contacting the ground.

That process was complete when his elbow hit the ground. OVER. It was a catch, down at the one. After that process was done, his hand that held the ball hit the ground and the ball came loose. That moment was after the catch-down-by-contact-at-the-one.

Read the rule again. Words have meaning, and the written word does not support any concept of taking away that CATCH.

 

[Silver N Blue]

So this is rule #3 by my count for cowboy player rules, Emmitts helmet rule, Roy williams horse collar, now this. Im probably missing a couple

Erik Williams and the "club"

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

Don't forget he got touched by the defense so when he hit the ground he should have been called down there OR it should have been ruled a fumble with him recovering it in the end zone for a TD.

Yes. That was the get out of jail with long winded, detailed rule explanation.

He did recover it after all the verbiage hub bub.

 

[BigStar]

"...If he regains control prior to the ball touching the ground, the pass is complete"
Didn't this also happen after ball popped up and Dez "re-caught" it while in the endzone?

 

[JoeKing]

The Calvin Johnson rule was around long before Dez got his chance to test it. I don't see the protest threads about this rule on CZ before then so why are we seeing it now? Cowboys fans are so inconsistent with their complaints. It wasn't a catch and will never be a catch and no amount of protest by you will ever change that fact. Crying about it at this point is just laughable to me. Being mad about the re-write of the rule however, is something I believe is justified. It is now truly the Dez rule.

 

[Kevinicus]

The Calvin Johnson rule was around long before Dez got his chance to test it. I don't see the protest threads about this rule on CZ before then so why are we seeing it now? Cowboys fans are so inconsistent with their complaints. It wasn't a catch and will never be a catch and no amount of protest by you will ever change that fact. Crying about it at this point is just laughable to me. Being mad about the re-write of the rule however, is something I believe is justified. It is now truly the Dez rule.

People were not complaining about the CJ rule (generally), but rather the misapplication of it.