The O Line Thread

[mahoneybill]

I thought everybody was bad, except maybe the Special Teams was a little better than they've been. Run defense, pass defense, OL, Romo, receivers, everybody failed, IMO.

Nice analysis. To me I feared special teams coming in. Never did I expect to get down 14 so quickly, and then look dominated in all other areas.

 

[xwalker]

Romo also has opportunities to run for first downs and chose to hold the ball and take sacks. Maybe if he ran a couple times, like he used to, that would give the defense some pause about going for all out blitzes. Romo did nothing to elevate this team yesterday, and when you are the QB of a contending team, that is your job. Make everyone around you better. Romo is playing to protect himself. That type of play will not get us to the playoffs.

I don't blame him for being conservative. He's one good hit from being out and this team has zero chances without him.

 

[xwalker]

If you are going to implement a system that involves getting the ball out with 3 step drops / etc is requires WRs running ultra precise route running and an incredible amount of timing between the QB and WRs.

I just don' think Dez / Williams / Beasley are those types of WRs.

I don't think Romo has ever been that kind of QB. Romo is more improvisational.

It seems to be Romo that does not like the quick slant route. I think some of the receivers could do it.

Green Bay kills opponents with the quick slant.

 

[lukin1966]

They knew going in the Eagles would bring pressure. The game planning was bad. They needed to do what Green Bay did ... beat them with the pass early, they didn't change a thing that they've been doing all year ... same game plan on offense and philly knew it. It seems to me Dez is at his best in the open field ... so for the life me I can't understand why more plays aren't designed to get him in the open field, or run him out of the slot more.

 

[Alexander]

They knew going in the Eagles would bring pressure. The game planning was bad. They needed to do what Green Bay did ... beat them with the pass early, they didn't change a thing that they've been doing all year ... same game plan on offense and philly knew it.

The sad thing is they really did not bring a lot of exotic pressure. Much of what they did was win with four hats on our OL. They were just very aggressive and active, Fletcher Cox in particular was dominant.

It seems to me Dez is at his best in the open field ... so for the life me I can't understand why more plays aren't designed to get him in the open field, or run him out of the slot more.

So I take it that you are not impressed by the repetitive back shoulder fades and almost magnetic draw of the sidelines with the routes he was asked to run against press coverage?

 

[cowboys1981]

The line had a bad game. Maybe in the rematch we should go no huddle to keep their defensive front on the field vs them being able to rotate on every play.

I don't blame Romo at all for conceding those sacks. We don't need him injured at the final stretch of our season. Receivers need to step their game up and get open and the Oline just needs to bounce back as well.

Defense:

Nothing but wind sprints at practice here on out.

RM- play more man and let these corners press. You can't protect them, they either step up or send them packing in the offseason.

 

[Deep_South]

We run on first down almost every time, and that puts our OL at a distinct disadvantage. Ideally one would want the Eagles' D leaning back a little because they aren't sure what is coming.

 

[Sportsbabe]

I haven't re-watched the game yet. It seemed like Romo had time on some occasions but couldn't find anybody open. The running game was definitely a disappointment; although, Murray might have been off a little also. Dunbar/Randle looked quicker than Murray in their few chances.

Dunbar and Randle are chomping at the bit so I expect them to be better. No surprise. That's a bright spot. I wish they played more to tell you the truth. I like the way some teams hit you with their multiplicity of weapons.

 

[Sportsbabe]

We run on first down almost every time, and that puts our OL at a distinct disadvantage. Ideally one would want the Eagles' D leaning back a little because they aren't sure what is coming.

Running on 1st down every time drives me crazy.

 

[pastordug]

I'm not being antagonistic, and you're not the only one who asks this question, but it's a contradiction when people say and recognize that the o-line had a bad game but you still expect the QB to be the same world beater. The 2 go hand in hand. Tony is not going to be able to be Tony (at this stage) without the O-line and the running game executing at a high level.

I could have been a bit more specific. I understand what you are implying but I was talking about the times when Romo had time. T me he just looked "different." Now could it have been attributed to the way the O Line was being pushed around? Maybe. He just looked off to me on those times where he had time. But good point you make.

 

[Roadtrip635]

You are probably onto something. I've often wondered why we don't adjust to that scheme, even when we are getting blitzed so quickly. When I watch Rodger/Brady/ P Manning the ball is gone in about 2-2.5 seconds on average....

I think part of that problem is JG's playbook. Those aren't the type of plays you can improvise if they aren't in the playbook. We don't see those type of plays because the players can't execute them, or we simply don't have them? This season we have finally seen some screen passes, but I think that's more because of Linehan. This is still JG's offense and I don't think he knows/wants to utilize a quick passing game. It appears it's more about picking up those blitzes and hoping Tony can buy time for someone to get open. If that happens, Tony can make a spectacular play, but if it doesn't it's a spectacular failure. Age and injury are catching up to Tony and he needs some help from the OC so he can beat the blitz by scheme and not by physical ability alone.

 

[Sportsbabe]

I could have been a bit more specific. I understand what you are implying but I was talking about the times when Romo had time. T me he just looked "different." Now could it have been attributed to the way the O Line was being pushed around? Maybe. He just looked off to me on those times where he had time. But good point you make.

I read a transcript from his presser yesterday which implied that his back wasn't "firing" like he expected. Oh Lord, this is where we are with him now. He needs the rest and the "core rehab" each week in order to play at a high level. It is what it is. Again, we can't expect him to be what he was after everything that's happened.

All I know is we better win this game Thursday .... "by any means necessary".

 

[ScipioCowboy]

Keep it within the guidelines please

Where is the YOUR MOM thread?

 

[mahoneybill]

I think part of that problem is JG's playbook. Those aren't the type of plays you can improvise if they aren't in the playbook. We don't see those type of plays because the players can't execute them, or we simply don't have them? This season we have finally seen some screen passes, but I think that's more because of Linehan. This is still JG's offense and I don't think he knows/wants to utilize a quick passing game. It appears it's more about picking up those blitzes and hoping Tony can buy time for someone to get open. If that happens, Tony can make a spectacular play, but if it doesn't it's a spectacular failure. Age and injury are catching up to Tony and he needs some help from the OC so he can beat the blitz by scheme and not by physical ability alone.

Nice analysis

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

Where is the YOUR MOM thread?

I am going to tear off your bottom jaw and beat you with it.

 

[ScipioCowboy]

I am going to tear off your bottom jaw and beat you with it.

Candy cane....