The Officiating in our/all games

[Eric_Boyer]

I was trying to be un biased. The announcers also agreed it wasn't a penalty however.

you mean the brother of the head coach ~`rolls eyes

 

[tyke1doe]

While i tend to agree with this, The boys werent too bad last year and refs did a pretty bang up job on that one

They have not established themselves as a powerhouse team. The Cowboys of the 90s would get the benefit of a lot of calls and were accused of being the refs favorite.

 

[Yakuza Rich]

There's rarely never one solution to the problem. If you really want to fix things, the entire attitude has to change and you have to make multiple changes to go along with it. The NFL seems to be in the mindset of 'well, that's the way we have always done it.'

I don't put the blame solely on the referees. The NFL is getting what they paid for. In fact, I would still want these referees around to help train, manage and grade new referees coming in.

Part of the issue is that your Head of Officiating is a guy who has never refereed a game on ANY level. Imagine if you worked a job and the head honcho had NEVER actually done your job. It's not only an insult to officials, but how do you expect the officials to get better if their boss is a guy that has never actually done the job and doesn't understand what the typical small issues that refs deal with all of the time that accumulate into making their job harder than it should be.

I do believe in needing full-time referees. But, I also believe in having more referees on the field so you can get a referee that doesn't have to run with a cornerback that runs a 4.4 forty time. If I have a referee on that side of the field, I can see the play easier. The training needs to be better with more game experience. And the grading has to be more difficult. Not only in grading in getting the calls right, but speeding up the game (something the NFL should be deathly afraid of is longer games). No more Ed Hochuli nonsense. No more 'well, we are going to re-inforce the rule now.'

With all of the available games to referee and all of the money that football has, this type of refereeing shouldn't be happening on the biggest stage.






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[tyke1doe]

I don't even think that's the case.

If people honestly paid attention to games other then the ones their favorite team is in they'd see that bad officiating is a serious problem across the board. These types of terrible calls, or no calls, are in every single game and go against every single team.

It's not a Cowboys bias, or a bias for or against any team for that matter. It's absolutely dreadful officiating, across the board, at all times.

Bad officiating has been a staple of the league throughout its history. Who can forget the Benny Barnes phantom pass interference or the bad call negating a Houston Oiler touchdown against the Steelers in the AFC Championship Game.

It's only getting more attention because:

1. Greater technology via instant replay
2. Social media where even the most clueless person can be consider an expert
3. The perpetual need to whine about EVERYTHING in our post modernistic society.

 

[tyke1doe]

That in itself is a serious indictment of officiating.

Actually, it was a perception-issue comment. Generally, teams that are great don't get as many penalty calls as teams that are bad. And that's generally because teams that are great tend to do the little things right which add to their greatness. Teams that are bad do the little things wrong that tend to get them penalties.

 

[TellerMorrow34]

Bad officiating has been a staple of the league throughout its history. Who can forget the Benny Barnes phantom pass interference or the bad call negating a Houston Oiler touchdown against the Steelers in the AFC Championship Game.

It's only getting more attention because:

1. Greater technology via instant replay
2. Social media where even the most clueless person can be consider an expert
3. The perpetual need to whine about EVERYTHING in our post modernistic society.

I agree that it certainly gets more and more attention. There is no doubt about that.

It also does get more blatantly worse and worse. It's pretty much impossible to deny that the officiating isn't worse now then it was 5-10 years ago.

And 5 years from now it's going to be even worse than it is right now because they don't have to worry about any accountability. They know that the league is always going to act like they're not doing a bad job and let them continue to get worse.

 

[Idgit]

I wouldn't argue that the refs are biased, in general. But it's definitely the case that they've got too prominent a role in deciding who wins and who loses every game. Refs need to be kept in the background. They need to make decisions quickly as consistently as possible, and they need to move on. Playing replays over and over and calling in retired officials from NY and doing segments on questionable plays throughout the week makes for too much discussion about the enforcement of the rules instead of the play on the field and it weakens the game, overall.

 

[tyke1doe]

I agree that it certainly gets more and more attention. There is no doubt about that.

It also does get more blatantly worse and worse. It's pretty much impossible to deny that the officiating isn't worse now then it was 5-10 years ago.

And 5 years from now it's going to be even worse than it is right now because they don't have to worry about any accountability. They know that the league is always going to act like they're not doing a bad job and let them continue to get worse.

I don't know if I'd say it's worse. I think it's better in some respects because of replay. Replay is getting a lot of calls right that would not have been reversed prior to replay.

I think the attention is what makes it worse, along with more avenues to hear/vent complaints.

But we can agree to disagree.

 

[mrmojo]

It seems Refs have been given a mandate by the league to look for certain things like hands to the face, helmet to helmet, now illegal picks, etc. So as a result they are throwing flags if it appears to be even close to a violation to cover their behinds. So I don't blame them but I do blame the league office and competition committee for making penalties more complicated then they have to be, to a point where super slow motion replay cant even draw a correct conclusion .

 

[erod]

It's been especially and consistently bad this year across the league.

And what's making matters worse is that there's a guy, in New York, who's never reffed a game in his life, who thinks he's a celebrity now, that seems to be flipping coins to make calls from his backside.

The Man in the High Castle making alternate universe NFL outcomes weekly.

(Most of you won't get that, but those that dol...you're welcome .)

 

[Don Corleone]

I get the sense there are really three opponents on each football field, and the refs are one of them.

 

[TellerMorrow34]

I don't know if I'd say it's worse. I think it's better in some respects because of replay. Replay is getting a lot of calls right that would not have been reversed prior to replay.

I think the attention is what makes it worse, along with more avenues to hear/vent complaints.

But we can agree to disagree.

Fair enough.

 

[Hoofbite]

"The poor guy literally fell, and rolled into a player and got a penalty for it? "

he log piled into the back of a players legs, not the front. crack back, block in the back, whatever you call it, that was bush league and a penalty!

Yeah, he went diving at the back of someone's legs. I don't think matters or not if he made a whole lot of contact, that's the exact type of play the NFL is trying to get rid of. Intentional shots down low at a player who can't defend himself.

 

[DogFace]

The late hit no calls on Romo are indefensible. No matter how many times some say the calls are bad league wide they won't be able to find Qb's getting hit nearly as late as the first Giants game, among others, with no call. Couple that with the finger face mask Rodgers got as one example and bias becomes obvious to me.

 

[Hoofbite]

I agree that it certainly gets more and more attention. There is no doubt about that.

It also does get more blatantly worse and worse. It's pretty much impossible to deny that the officiating isn't worse now then it was 5-10 years ago.

And 5 years from now it's going to be even worse than it is right now because they don't have to worry about any accountability. They know that the league is always going to act like they're not doing a bad job and let them continue to get worse.

Most of the officials who are officiating now we're officiating 5-10 years ago.

 

[TellerMorrow34]

Most of the officials who are officiating now we're officiating 5-10 years ago.

Yes. They were. And they've gotten progressively worse, rather than better.

The lack of accountability makes it that way. They don't care, at all, if they do a bad job because there is nothing for them to fear from being terrible. The NFL is going to continue to tell people what a great job their officials are doing.