The Oklahoman: Dallas Cowboys spokesman says team not interested in Adarius Bowman

[FCBarca]

Are smoking weed currently? 65% of the NFL is as dumb as a brick? Boy, I sure hope not.

There is testing in place and these guys are not that stupid as to rest millions of dollars on a stupid thing like weed. You seem to think it is nothing but I don't think most do.

You must live in a bubble, then...Must never have hung out with any professional athletes...And based on testing, all elements of marijuana, regardless of the level of use, will be metabolized within 56 days, and will be undetectable by most drug tests between 4 and 28 days...Which means in the offseason and for those that insist in partaking during the season, we've already heard plenty of stories about players with devices to elude detection or substitution.

To think they're not smoking is, frankly, naive.

 

[FCBarca]

Let's see, two boneheads who've managed to flush God-given talent down the drain?

Sounds about right to me.

Difference being one is on his way out of the league and one may never get in.

Logical comparison then...One is for recreational weed, the other is for being an impossible teammate as well as being uncoachable...I can see how (myopic) they seem similar

 

[aikemirv]

You must live in a bubble, then...Must never have hung out with any professional athletes...And based on testing, all elements of marijuana, regardless of the level of use, will be metabolized within 56 days, and will be undetectable by most drug tests between 4 and 28 days...Which means in the offseason and for those that insist in partaking during the season, we've already heard plenty of stories about players with devices to elude detection or substitution.

To think they're not smoking is, frankly, naive.

So you think that most of these guys are willing to bet their future on a 4-28 day time frame. Like I said I hope 65% of NFL players are not that stupid.

 

[Stash]

Logical comparison then...One is for recreational weed, the other is for being an impossible teammate as well as being uncoachable...I can see how (myopic) they seem similar

And yet their 'results' are remarkably simliar.

'recreational weed'?

Nice choice of words there.

Sounds like the words of a smoker trying to justify it to the rest of us.

Save your fingers the work.

 

[tyke1doe]

Nope, only angels allowed.......

Only angels with talent.

 

[FCBarca]

So you think that most of these guys are willing to bet their future on a 4-28 day time frame. Like I said I hope 65% of NFL players are not that stupid.

You think MLB players weren't or aren't doping?...And that was doping.

I'm saying, even in the NBA they have drug testing but it's been widely acknowledged that weed is pretty common place among NBA athletes...And like I said, if you've hung out with many athletes, you'd know weed is about as common as a shot of grey goose...And it isn't about being stupid, none of these guys, not many people in general, see anything disastrous about weed.

Just an observation, not getting on my soapbox

 

[tyke1doe]

All that's true but if we can go out on such a limb for Pac I'd throw 30 grand at Bowman just to see.

We go out on a limb for PacMan because ...

1.) He's a proven commodity
2.) He's a versatile commodity
3.) He has talent.

Teams are willing to "waste time" on a talented player than they are on an untalented player.

It's really not worth the trouble to sign a non-talented player or one who likely won't make your roster and then that player be a person who has a pot habit.

Why would you even bother?

 

[Doomsday101]

You think MLB players weren't or aren't doping?...And that was doping.

I'm saying, even in the NBA they have drug testing but it's been widely acknowledged that weed is pretty common place among NBA athletes...And like I said, if you've hung out with many athletes, you'd know weed is about as common as a shot of grey goose...And it isn't about being stupid, none of these guys, not many people in general, see anything disastrous about weed.

Just an observation, not getting on my soapbox

But if you get popped then you’re suspended. I have smoked weed and your right no big deal but when you are placed in a situation of choosing what is important then putting down the weed should be no big deal. You act as if they need it. Put it this way Million dollars in contract money or getting high? What is more important?

 

[FCBarca]

And yet their 'results' are remarkably simliar.

'recreational weed'?

Nice choice of words there.

Sounds like the words of a smoker trying to justify it to the rest of us.

Save your fingers the work.

See, logic actually requires that your arguments make some sense.

By results being remarkably similar, do you mean fighting with coaches and players and a team cancer?...Sounds only like Antonio Bryant.

Getting a player to not smoke during the season isn't in the same stratosphere as a player being a behavioral and tempermental problem...But, then again, in your world of 'logic', perhaps it is

 

[tyke1doe]

What is the difference between using it and getting caught with it?

The one got caught - the act is the same!

The difference is the same as Bill Clinton secret affair with Monica Lewinsky and Bill Clinton and his affair exposed with Monica Lewinsky.

One we can't do anything about because we don't know about it. The other we can react because we know something about it.

Second, using it suggests at least you had some discretion as to where you used it even if it is illegal. To get caught with it suggests a lack of discretion.

I think there's a difference in discretion between doing something and keeping it secret and doing something and getting caught.

Talib testeb postive for it 3 times didn't he. He Probably should have been kicked out.

We don't know the circumstances surrounding Talib. We don't know whether Kansas, as a non-traditional powerhouse, "tolerated" his indiscretions whereas Oklahoma St. (or whatever institution kicked Bowman out) didn't.

We can't compare the two without knowing all the variables.

 

[silver]

Talib ran a 4.38 at the combine. During his Pro-Day, Manningham ran 4.44 and a 4.38.

The weed stuff matters, but not as much as the the 40 time.

 

[FCBarca]

But if you get popped then you’re suspended. I have smoked weed and your right no big deal but when you are placed in a situation of choosing what is important then putting down the weed should be no big deal. You act as if they need it. Put it this way Million dollars in contract money or getting high? What is more important?

Sorry, this thread has now gone off topic but to clarify, I'm not arguing about importance in terms of choosing one or the other...Just pointing out that there has to be more of an issue here than weed...Because a lot of players smoke, and most of them know to wait until the offseason...My guess is that he'd do the same were he to get a roster spot, as has Moss probably and a host of others.

I don't think it ends up as an either or, they simply are smarter about it...And in the scheme of dumb things, I rate this as being less dumb than what Kelly pulled with his antics & workouts and way behind Pacman jones, Tank etc...Yet, somehow he can't get a gig?...Just seems bizarre...What's the concern here?...That Bowman is going to open up a weed farm outside Irving and create a Cowboy Cartel in Ft. Worth?...It's not like he has been a problem football player, that he doesn't produce (And that is 9 times out of 10, the ONLY thing the NFL or pro sports care about) or that he is a poor teammate...He was dumb on the timing but like has been written, credit him for owning up...He didn't play the whole 'It wasn't me' routine that we've gotten numb from with most other athletes.

 

[Stash]

See, logic actually requires that your arguments make some sense.

By results being remarkably similar, do you mean fighting with coaches and players and a team cancer?...Sounds only like Antonio Bryant.

Those are 'causes' bud. I mentioned the 'results' earlier. You should check back on them.

Getting a player to not smoke during the season isn't in the same stratosphere as a player being a behavioral and tempermental problem...But, then again, in your world of 'logic', perhaps it is

Again, shouldn't bring up 'logic' when you yourself don't understand it.

 

[Stash]

I don't think it ends up as an either or, they simply are smarter about it...And in the scheme of dumb things, I rate this as being less dumb than what Kelly pulled with his antics & workouts and way behind Pacman jones, Tank etc...Yet, somehow he can't get a gig?...Just seems bizarre...What's the concern here?...That Bowman is going to open up a weed farm outside Irving and create a Cowboy Cartel in Ft. Worth?...It's not like he has been a problem football player, that he doesn't produce (And that is 9 times out of 10, the ONLY thing the NFL or pro sports care about) or that he is a poor teammate...He was dumb on the timing but like has been written, credit him for owning up...He didn't play the whole 'It wasn't me' routine that we've gotten numb from with most other athletes.

I don't have a problem with giving Bowman a chance.

I just looked to me like you were trying to downplay his mistakes.

It would be pretty hypocritical of me to be in favor of giving a guy like Pacman a shot a redemption and closing the door on a young player who has made far less mistakes.

I don't have a problem giving Bowman a chance as an undrafted free agent.

 

[tyke1doe]

Mixing up two different situations, and getting them wrong...Manningham actually didn't tell the truth initially and Bowman had always come clean and admitted his guilt...Two very big distinctions

Doing the same stupid crap once them pay him a pile of money?...Care to hazzard a guess how many stupid morons are smoking weed in the NFL much less all the league combined?...A percentage?...If it's less than 65%, I'd be shocked...It's weed...It ain't guns, it ain't controlled substances, ain't violence etc...It's weed...Perspective, people.

But until the NFL changes its drug policy to exclude weed, then it is a big issue, especially if a player you invest money in is suspended, crippling your team and its chances of doing something positive on the field.

Context, people, context.

 

[MadCow]

Doesn't look like he's being courted by the Cowboys.

http://newsok.com/article/3236246/?print=1

By Mike Baldwin
Staff Writer
STILLWATER — How can Dantrell Savage, a running back who ran for 100 yards his final 10 games at Oklahoma State, not land a free agent deal, much less be drafted?

How can Adarius Bowman, a wide receiver who compiled two 1,000-yard receiving seasons, also find it difficult just to land a free agent deal?

One NFL source said the theory is teams might be leery of Savage's injury history and Bowman's marijuana arrest.

Neither of OSU's All-Big 12 standouts are guaranteed being invited to an NFL training camp this summer.

Savage, who rushed for 2,092 yards in two seasons at OSU, will work out for Kansas City this weekend in hopes of being given a free-agent contract and a shot at the Chiefs' punt return job.

"I just have to go show them what I can do,” Savage said. "I'm not disappointed at all. I'm a little anxious to see how it all works out. But I'm not disappointed. I'll be focused and give it all I have.”

One NFL insider said his organization had Savage listed as a fifth-round pick. Savage's height (5-foot-8) could be a factor. But other small backs, from smaller colleges, were drafted last weekend.

Savage was hampered by a groin and upper thigh injury early last season. Because of a growing number of medical settlements, fewer NFL teams are signing players with medical concerns in fear that player might ask for an injury settlement.

Bowman's story is much different. There were rumors the Dallas Cowboys and Philadelphia Eagles might be interested in giving Bowman a tryout, but spokesmen for both organizations on Monday denied they were interested.

As of Monday evening, Bowman's future was still in limbo. Bowman, who was arrested for possession of marijuana a few weeks ago, ran a slow 40 time (4.74). As a result, Bowman has had difficulty finding a team to give him an opportunity.

 

[theogt]

http://cowboyszone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=117907

 

[BAT]

Thanks for the link, I'm rooting for Martel Van Zant to be signed by a team.

He may be more successful moving to FS. I am rooting for him as well.