The Pedigree of Jason Garrett

Plankton;3687739 said:
Not to mention his greatest exposure from a coaching standpoint in Dallas was to Barry Switzer.
:laugh1: I love Switzer. I didn't want him anywhere near my team, but what a character.
 
BigDPlayer;3687458 said:
OK, so please forgive my ignorance on this post... but, isn't Jason Garrett the man with the most "Dallas" history and pedigree of any Dallas Cowboy head coach in our history?

His father scouted for the Cowboys for what, two decades? He played for Dallas for what, 12 years? He cut his teeth as a coordinator here. He knows Dallas. He turned down other offers for Dallas. He lives Dallas. He breathes Dallas. He bleeds Dallas.

I am born and raised in Dallas, Texas. Raised on the Cowboys. I'm not particularly religous on Sundays - though I do consider my Cowboys sacred. Who else would you want to take us to the promised land but a born-n-bred, raised, pedigreed and proven leader with a history so rich in Cowboys lore? That man is Jason Garrett. Remember the man who beat Green Bay on Thanksgiving so many years ago? THAT MAN IS NOW OUR HEAD COACH!!

Finally - a leader we as fans can rally around. A leader who truly bled blue and silver like no other in history!

He will make mistakes. He will learn along the way.

But... my friends... his pedigree is a foundation upon which we can all rally around. Finally... a real Dallas Cowboys coach for our Dallas Cowboys.

Sure he has the most experience with the Cowboys of any head caoch we've had, and in reality, other than Campo he's the only head coach we had that had a prior relationship with the team. But that's not really a coaching "pedigree", it's just a relationship, and a relationship in and of itself doesn't say anything at all about ability to be a head coach.

Garrett's coaching expierience was VERY minimal before he came to Dallas. He's actually only been in coaching since 2005, and he never had been a high ranking coach before coming to Dallas. He was given the O-Coordinator position in Dallas before he had earned his stripes. He's certainly gained a lot more experience and as a higher level coach since coming to Dallas, but it's extremely rare for someone to become a head coach with as little overall coaching experience as Garrett has had.
 
bbailey423;3687708 said:
I really am NOT feeling his pedigree. I actually WANTED someone who Jerry was not comfortable with. I actually wanted someone that had ZERO pet cats/projects in the lockeroom..someone with ZERO allegiance to any of the players. Someone who will judge each player based on what they see TODAY...not what they saw when drafting them . The status quo has STUNK. EVERYONE including Jerry needs to feel uncomfortable, and hiring someone already here is TOO comfy for the situation we are in. Lets not act like Jason did not tell Jerry Brad Johnson can win games for us. Let's not act like Jason Garrett did not get rid of Anthony Fasano and turn around and draft ANOTHER TE with a 2nd round pick whose production does not match his draft status. Lets not act like Jason did not argue for Felix Jones (who I like) when Wade wanted Chris Johnson. Lets not act like Jason didn't ask for Hudson Houck. Let's not act like Jason appears to be trying to re-establish the 90s Cowboys. I am not saying every head coach would be or has to be perfect, but Jason showed ZERO leadership with the whole Witten, TO, Romo fiasco a couple of years ago. Jason has stubbornly forced Marion Barber down our throat. Jason had to be FORCED to play Felix (which is something Jerry should not have to or be able to do). I do NOT want this guy. Sorry!


May I ask what in the hell is wrong with trying to establish the 90's Cowboys? Wow what a moron for wanting to mold this team like the one that won 3 Super Bowls.
 
rangers71;3688014 said:
May I ask what in the hell is wrong with trying to establish the 90's Cowboys? Wow what a moron for wanting to mold this team like the one that won 3 Super Bowls.

First, he wasn't saying there was anything wrong with it, he was saying that Jason hasn't been trying to do it.

Aside from that, there is nothing wrong with striving for those results, but you can't "establish the 90's Cowboys", you can only establish something with what you have now. The players are different, the skill sets are different, the defense was built as a 3-4 and not a 4-3, and the simple fact is just because the head coach is a link to that era doesn't automatically make him capable of recreating it. Hopefully there are lessons Garrett learned as a part of those 1990's Cowboys teams that he can draw on now, but he has to figure out what is going to work now, with this team.
 
bbailey423;3687708 said:
I really am NOT feeling his pedigree. I actually WANTED someone who Jerry was not comfortable with. I actually wanted someone that had ZERO pet cats/projects in the lockeroom..someone with ZERO allegiance to any of the players. Someone who will judge each player based on what they see TODAY...not what they saw when drafting them . The status quo has STUNK. EVERYONE including Jerry needs to feel uncomfortable, and hiring someone already here is TOO comfy for the situation we are in. Lets not act like Jason did not tell Jerry Brad Johnson can win games for us. Let's not act like Jason Garrett did not get rid of Anthony Fasano and turn around and draft ANOTHER TE with a 2nd round pick whose production does not match his draft status. Lets not act like Jason did not argue for Felix Jones (who I like) when Wade wanted Chris Johnson. Lets not act like Jason didn't ask for Hudson Houck. Let's not act like Jason appears to be trying to re-establish the 90s Cowboys. I am not saying every head coach would be or has to be perfect, but Jason showed ZERO leadership with the whole Witten, TO, Romo fiasco a couple of years ago. Jason has stubbornly forced Marion Barber down our throat. Jason had to be FORCED to play Felix (which is something Jerry should not have to or be able to do). I do NOT want this guy. Sorry!

Spot on!

This is how I feel. Garrett seems like Jerry Jones at this finest. This is Jerry's major weakness. He hires people who is comfortable with so he can exert his authority over them.

There is no indication that proves to me that Garrett is an agent of change.

He assures to Jerry that he won't rock the boat or make decisions to improve the team. In fact, Garrett seems he wants to be complimentary to Jerry's thought process. Thus will be apt to probably agree with Jerry more than be someone who will make tough decisions for the good of the team.

People here complain about Jerry being meddlesome and doing things that interfere with the success of this team. I have a feeling that Garrett will bow down to those bad habits and would be nothing more than a puppet.

I'm hoping though he succeeds. If not I'm really hoping and praying that we just gut this teams coaching and player philosophy out the window with someone that is a real coach......someone who has the balls to confront Jones, make the tough decisions counter to Jones, and to put his stamp to better this team even though it makes Jones uncomfortable.
 
Stautner;3688039 said:
First, he wasn't saying there was anything wrong with it, he was saying that Jason hasn't been trying to do it.

Aside from that, there is nothing wrong with striving for those results, but you can't "establish the 90's Cowboys", you can only establish something with what you have now. The players are different, the skill sets are different, the defense was built as a 3-4 and not a 4-3, and the simple fact is just because the head coach is a link to that era doesn't automatically make him capable of recreating it. Hopefully there are lessons Garrett learned as a part of those 1990's Cowboys teams that he can draw on now, but he has to figure out what is going to work now, with this team.

Well in a post that rips Garrett and the quote is " Let's not act like he is trying to re-establish the 90's Cowboys" how am I supposed to take it? And your right he can't re establish that team because it was full of Hall of Famers and true leaders and this team is full of losers and quitters. However what he can recreate is the work ethic of that teams coach, the practice habits, and the attention to detail that that team had and if Jerry let's him the threat of real consequences when they screw up. If he does these things then he will be on the right track and then and only then will this team improve and play like we as fans want them too.
 
rangers71;3688134 said:
Well in a post that rips Garrett and the quote is " Let's not act like he is trying to re-establish the 90's Cowboys" how am I supposed to take it? And your right he can't re establish that team because it was full of Hall of Famers and true leaders and this team is full of losers and quitters. However what he can recreate is the work ethic of that teams coach, the practice habits, and the attention to detail that that team had and if Jerry let's him the threat of real consequences when they screw up. If he does these things then he will be on the right track and then and only then will this team improve and play like we as fans want them too.

You are supposed to take it as it was written - his comment about Garrett not trying to re-establish the 1990's Cowboys was part of the "rip on Garrett.

And I agree about the things he can do, which is what I meant by saying I hope he learned some lessons from those teams that he can apply now.
 
tupperware;3687719 said:
Goal line runs aren't "cute". The fat bodies up front just need to get some push and then it will work. I think the blame has to go to these players at this point and I've been a Garrett critic myself, but he's in a new position in a bad situation and I'm pulling for him until I'm confident that he can't do it.

You're absolutely right. There's nothing cute about 6'6", 355lb Leonard Davis whiffing against a defensive back on the goal line.

Execution is key. Garrett will make them execute in practice until they get it right.
 
bbailey423;3687708 said:
I really am NOT feeling his pedigree. I actually WANTED someone who Jerry was not comfortable with. I actually wanted someone that had ZERO pet cats/projects in the lockeroom..someone with ZERO allegiance to any of the players. Someone who will judge each player based on what they see TODAY...not what they saw when drafting them . The status quo has STUNK. EVERYONE including Jerry needs to feel uncomfortable, and hiring someone already here is TOO comfy for the situation we are in. Lets not act like Jason did not tell Jerry Brad Johnson can win games for us. Let's not act like Jason Garrett did not get rid of Anthony Fasano and turn around and draft ANOTHER TE with a 2nd round pick whose production does not match his draft status. Lets not act like Jason did not argue for Felix Jones (who I like) when Wade wanted Chris Johnson. Lets not act like Jason didn't ask for Hudson Houck. Let's not act like Jason appears to be trying to re-establish the 90s Cowboys. I am not saying every head coach would be or has to be perfect, but Jason showed ZERO leadership with the whole Witten, TO, Romo fiasco a couple of years ago. Jason has stubbornly forced Marion Barber down our throat. Jason had to be FORCED to play Felix (which is something Jerry should not have to or be able to do). I do NOT want this guy. Sorry!

You're wrong. This is a guy Jerry is so comfortable with, he can sit back and do nothing. That's how Jerry will deal with Garrett, I believe - he finally has a coach like Jimmy that he knows can run the team and he can stay in his box.
 
BigDPlayer;3687458 said:
He played for Dallas for what, 12 years?

umm, 7 actually.

you can look that up on the internet you know?
 
casmith07;3688165 said:
You're wrong. This is a guy Jerry is so comfortable with, he can sit back and do nothing. That's how Jerry will deal with Garrett, I believe - he finally has a coach like Jimmy that he knows can run the team and he can stay in his box.

I suspect that Jerry had at least something like this in mind when he hired Garrett and planned on him eventually being the head coach, but I doubt Jerry's all that comfortable now that he's seen things go to hell. I think if Garrett does well enough Jerry might regain some of that comfort level, but things are just too bad now, and unfortunately for Garrett he has a bad hand to start with. Of course some of that hand is from cards Garrett dealt himself.
 
rangers71;3688014 said:
May I ask what in the hell is wrong with trying to establish the 90's Cowboys? Wow what a moron for wanting to mold this team like the one that won 3 Super Bowls.
you tell me there is an Emmit Smith in this lockeroom....who upon his FIRST visit to TExas Stadium announced he would finish his career as the all time leading rusher in NFL history....because there is not a Micheal Irvin on this team....name another WR in the Super Bowl era...that was TRULY the heart and soul of a Super Bowl winning team...do you see Steve Beurlein in the lockeroom...who GUIDED the Cowboys to the playoffs one year when Troy Aikman missed like 7 games...did I mention Mark Stepnoski...who was as good a C as there has been in the Super Bowl era. Did I mention we had Darren Woodson playing safety. Or Deion Sanders playing CB...or a defense that was good enough that Larry Brown could be a Super Bowl MVP? This is 2010. To win with one WR, one TE and a running game you better have a coach like Jimmy and one heck of a defense. We have NEITHER. So he better figure out how to win with the money pile Jerry has thrown into this lockeroom.
 

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