The perplexing case of a good offseason

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Hopefully when Romo returns we're not stuck in a 2-7 hole. Chances are we're not going to win 5 in a row to finish out the season. So what we need is to steal a couple of wins with Cassel. He's a career .500 qb so it's not imposible. If Romo can manage a 4-1 record to finish 8-8 we might sneak in. I hate 8-8's but it appears we're heading that way at best.
 

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Randy Gregory.

Greg Hardy.

Byron Jones.

La'El Collins.

Re-signed McClain and extended Crawford.

Not a bad offseason still, but this staff is too stubborn to bench liabilities like Barry Church and Ronald Leary. Collins should be starting at guard and Jones is our free safety. The first true free safety we've had in a long, long while.
 

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Can't make an accurate assessment on the backs without Romo and Dez. Changes the equation too much. And their view of Dunbar was obviously accurate despite the feelings here.
 

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Hopefully when Romo returns we're not stuck in a 2-7 hole. Chances are we're not going to win 5 in a row to finish out the season. So what we need is to steal a couple of wins with Cassel. He's a career .500 qb so it's not imposible. If Romo can manage a 4-1 record to finish 8-8 we might sneak in. I hate 8-8's but it appears we're heading that way at best.

Romo will be back for last 7 games. If Cassel can get us to 4-5, then a 6-1 finish would be 10-6 and possibly good enough for playoffs.
 

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I love how we found a way to minimize Jerry's impact (no Manziel), limit Garrett (no playcalling), and reduce Romo's pass attempts (great running game), win a bunch of games, and them immediately go away from that.

I think the Front Office took some shortcuts this off-season. Gregory slipping to the 2nd and Collins going undrafted were very fortunate for us but should not be considered part of the strategy. This off-season the FO needs to upgrade the defensive talent, get a better #2 WR, and solidify the RB position. The O Line is set. The franchise QB is running out of time.
 

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Just some thoughts that have been stewing in my brain for the last 3 weeks or so.

Like a lot of Cowboy fans, last year took us all by surprise. No one expected the season we had. I thought we were still a season, maybe 2 away from being in the thick of it - it really was a great surprise.
Fast forward to the off season and draft, again, it seemed like the Dallas brain-trust had finally figured it out. Sound decisions i.e. letting Murray walk. Thought they would have played a little more hardball with Carr. Signing Hardy for the structured contract etc. Picking up McFadden on the cheap. Bringing back RoMac on another structured deal. All seemed like solid FO moves. The draft followed, And although I did not agree with the Jones pick, (I see he is and will be a good player for us) Man, walking away with three 1st round talents in Jones, Gregory and Collins. I was perfectly giddy. The rest of the draft seemed solid, smart picks - who I still see as potential players for us. So all in all, the happy meter was pointing up. Training camp comes along, everyone looks to be working out. Hell, even Claiborne looked better !
We lose Scandrick, a few niggling injuries, but generally I'm a pretty happy camper.
But, Now with the injuries we have had so far, and the paly of several players (Weeden etc.) I have come to believe the off season was floored.
It's my belief that the front office never intended to take a RB in this draft - at all. No matter how they spin it. There was no, it just didn't fall to us BS. They thought the line, Randle, McFadden and Dunbar was enough - Strike one. Fatal flaw. all can see now RBBC does not work with the backs we have, and then I think OK, they realize the flaw, go out and trade for Michael - but whet the hell is this ! 1 play per game and yank him - Strike two. Loading up on DE's was great and needed, but again neglecting the DT position is yet another fatal flaw (No. 3) And that has also played out. No FS drafted or picked up. We all know we are playing with 2 SS, but they chose to ignore that - yet again. Church has regressed from last year, and will not return next year, leaving Wilcox to move inside where he should be. And leaving another big hole that we have to throw a high pick at to get a quality FS that can come in and start. Fatal flaw # 4.
QB, yes it is apparent that the FO decision to stick with Weeden was the wrong one. I was of the opinion that he would progress this year. Hell no ! He is done, we need to move off of him, and no matter what happens the rest of this year - Cassel, Romo when he's healthy. It is now a pressing need to draft and prep. a young QB behind Romo. We are running out of time ! Fatal Flaw # 5.
What I thought was such a promising off-season appears to have been smoke and mirrors. And what I perceived to be a solid run for the next few years, with smart FO thinking - now still feels the same 2-3 years away. we have literally and figuratively wasted the Romo years.
I could go on and on about coaching, play calling, the apparent big step back from Callahan. But this is already long. Like all you, I love our team and want nothing but the best.
Seems like the decisions of the off season, headed in a different direction. And we don't have enough high picks to rectify them in one off season. Another Romo year will go by, and he does not have many left.
Thoughts ?

A team can't prepare for all situations.

Very few teams have good backup QBs because many teams don't even have 1 good QB.

Where would the Cowboys realistically gotten a solid backup QB for this season? A draft pick wouldn't be ready. I guess they could have added Cassell in the offseason.

They basically had to make the QB decisions in March. They probably thought Weeden and maybe the young QB would do something in the preseason after a year of learning the scheme. Once they failed in the preseason it was too late to find another option.
 

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A team can't prepare for all situations.

Very few teams have good backup QBs because many teams don't even have 1 good QB.

Where would the Cowboys realistically gotten a solid backup QB for this season? A draft pick wouldn't be ready. I guess they could have added Cassell in the offseason.

They basically had to make the QB decisions in March. They probably thought Weeden and maybe the young QB would do something in the preseason after a year of learning the scheme. Once they failed in the preseason it was too late to find another option.

I don't think Cassel was available in free agency. I think he was traded to Buffalo. They did cut him in the first week of September but signed him back a few days later.
 

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Unfortunately, they were hurt. The best teams prepare for the worst. We play with "hope" ...

Oh really? What's New England's backup plan to losing Brady and Gronkowski? I'll wait patiently.
 

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Unfortunately, they were hurt. The best teams prepare for the worst. We play with "hope" ...

There are zero teams prepared to lose their starting QB. Dallas has among the best depth in the league, except at QB.

There are about 20 quarterbacks in the world. The rest are awful.
 

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What was their record when they lost Brady for the year? I'll wait patiently.

They failed to make the playoffs that year... ;)

Yes, they went 11-5. They had an immensely talented roster that went 16-0 the previous season as well as a QB who had future NFL starting potential.

I think the Packer 2013 experience is much more typical for teams that lose franchise QBs -- they went 2-5-1 with Rodgers out with a broken collarbone.

That's where the Cowboys are at right now, they have to desperately find a way to steal a couple of wins while Romo is out.
 
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They failed to make the playoffs that year... ;)

Yes, they went 11-5. They had an immensely talented roster that went 16-0 the previous system as well as a QB who had future NFL starting potential.

I think the Packer 2013 experience is much more typical for teams that lose franchise QBs -- they went 2-5-1 with Rodgers out with a broken collarbone.

That's where the Cowboys are at right now, they have to desperately find a way to steal a couple of wins while Romo is out.

I don't necessarily agree. What was Garrett's inteim HC record with a back up QB and a team that everyone claimed needed to be gutted and took 4 years to rebuild?

Philly won with Foles who took over for Vick when he went down and then won with Sanchez when Foles went down. Back-up QB's have roasted us with a healthy Romo and Dez. At some point, these excuses just don't stand on their own.

Now I'm not saying we should go to the playoffs with a back-up QB and Romo done for the season. That's not being realistic. But I do feel we should have gotten better back-up QB play and a more reliable back-up. How people can defend going into the season (not to mention last season) with Brandon Weeden is mind numbing. I mean, folks defended the move and now excuse it because, well, how can we win with Weeden as our back-up? It's a joke......
 

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A team can't prepare for all situations.

Very few teams have good backup QBs because many teams don't even have 1 good QB.

Where would the Cowboys realistically gotten a solid backup QB for this season? A draft pick wouldn't be ready. I guess they could have added Cassell in the offseason.

They basically had to make the QB decisions in March. They probably thought Weeden and maybe the young QB would do something in the preseason after a year of learning the scheme. Once they failed in the preseason it was too late to find another option.

And when exactly did Vaughan not suck? He never showed anything here, and this staff was openly and repeatedly questioned about why they kept him around.

I love these built in excuses for this team's every failure. "Once they failed in the preseason it was too late to find another option." Let's them Right off the hook, doesn't it? As if to suggest that they had no chance in between last season and this one to do anything.

And yet, somehow, other teams are magically able to fill their needs?

The Cardinals can sign Chris Johnson and watch him atop the league's leading rushers while we sit tight with this proven failure of a running back committee?

The Steelers can lose Big Ben, also a top 5 quarterback, and somehow manage to not only stay competitive, but win?

Our two big injuries have crippled this team, and there's no doubt about that. But they have also shown our points of failure in that we are completely reliant on one or two stars to carry this entire team, and when they're not available, this team can't remain competitive.

The team relies on Romo to mask many flaws and they allowed themselves to be completely unprepared for the possibility of losing him.

They've also done the same thing with Bryant at wide receiver and are forced to put guys out there who can't play.

They had plenty of opportunities to shore up all of these now clear weaknesses and valid to do so. Even when some guys were publicly begging to come here.

That's on them.
 

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Unfortunately, they were hurt. The best teams prepare for the worst. We play with "hope" ...
This is a dumb argument. There is not one team who can handle those kinds of losses.

Manning/Thomas in Denver, Ryan/Jones in Atlanta, Brady/Gronk in NE....none of those teams can handle such catastrophic losses. If you honestly think that Sean Renfree and Roddy White are going to keep the ATL offense going, then you're way more hopeful than I am. Heck, the Saints only lost Graham and their offense can't do much.
 

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And when exactly did Vaughan not suck? He never showed anything here, and this staff was openly and repeatedly questioned about why they kept him around.

I love these built in excuses for this team's every failure. "Once they failed in the preseason it was too late to find another option." Let's them Right off the hook, doesn't it? As if to suggest that they had no chance in between last season and this one to do anything.

And yet, somehow, other teams are magically able to fill their needs?

The Cardinals can sign Chris Johnson and watch him atop the league's leading rushers while we sit tight with this proven failure of a running back committee?

The Steelers can lose Big Ben, also a top 5 quarterback, and somehow manage to not only stay competitive, but win?

Our two big injuries have crippled this team, and there's no doubt about that. But they have also shown our points of failure in that we are completely reliant on one or two stars to carry this entire team, and when they're not available, this team can't remain competitive.

The team relies on Romo to mask many flaws and they allowed themselves to be completely unprepared for the possibility of losing him.

They've also done the same thing with Bryant at wide receiver and are forced to put guys out there who can't play.

They had plenty of opportunities to shore up all of these now clear weaknesses and valid to do so. Even when some guys were publicly begging to come here.

That's on them.

Randle had a better average than Chris Johnson in game 1. That was game where both Romo and Dez started.

It's highly doubtful that Chris Johnson would have done anything differently than Randle with Weed at QB and no #1 WR.
 

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Randle had a better average than Chris Johnson in game 1. That was game where both Romo and Dez started.

So he had a better one week versus a guy just getting himself into playing shape? Yay?

It's highly doubtful that Chris Johnson would have done anything differently than Randle with Weed at QB and no #1 WR.

Maybe according to you. You always want to use speculation in the Cowboys' favor in an effort to mask their obvious mistakes.

The undeniable fact is that Chris Johnson - a guy begging to come to Dallas - is among the rushing leaders while the Cowboys backs are coming up smallest when needed most.

Not bad for a guy all of the 'staunch defenders' wanted to term 'washed up'.
 
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