CFZ The psychological challenge for this team

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Include the Cardinals game and there may be two stompings weighing on the team's memory of the first five weeks of this season.
weighing on the team's memory because media doesn't let it go...

TODAY, CeeDee is being asked about the 49ers game from 5 days ago instead of the Chargers game coming up in 3 days

Will media be asking Mahomes, Kelce, or Reid next Friday why they struggled vs a winless Denver and if it's a sign that they made poor moves in the off-season?

I doubt it.

The scrutiny that Cowboys players have to endure from sports media is part of the circus jerry created in Dallas.
 

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weighing on the team's memory because media doesn't let it go...

TODAY, CeeDee is being asked about the 49ers game from 5 days ago instead of the Chargers game coming up in 3 days

Will media be asking Mahomes, Kelce, or Reid next Friday why they struggled vs a winless Denver and if it's a sign that they made poor moves in the off-season?

I doubt it.

The scrutiny that Cowboys players have to endure from sports media is part of the circus jerry created in Dallas.
The answer to the question will the chiefs media be asking them about the Denver game? Look at the headlines on chiefs media: https://www.arrowheadpride.com/2023/10/12/23915184/final-score-chiefs-beat-broncos-19-8-in-week-6 (“Chiefs struggle past Broncos with 19-8 win”) Of course they will be scrutinized. I have a friend who is a chiefs fan and they gripe like any fan base about “style points” after a win.

It’s what the media is paid to do. Cover the team. Ask questions. The Cowboys are scrutinized in part because of their success in the distant past. And because the Cowboys have lots of fans. And because our owner talks incessantly to anyone with a microphone or notepad. No publicity is bad publicity.
 

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Getting curb stomped 42-10 by one of your biggest rivals for the third straight time is a kick in the groin for our Cowboys. It has both a physical and psychological toll. This is a team whose entire identity is built on being competitive with any and all NFL teams with a strong defense and a revamped offense - now it has to question itself at this point.

Going into this weekend’s big bounce-back opportunity game with the chargers will test the mental and physical toughness of a team that if we’re honest with ourselves as fans, has been too soft in their biggest moments. The psychological make up of this team is about to be severely challenged.

Questions this team must answer to get up off the canvas:
  • Was the SF game just a one week bad blip on the radar or is it a true measure of this team?
  • Is the defense as dominant as they all thought they were or are they just an occasional tiger when they have a big lead?
  • Is the “Texas Coast” offense as bad as it looked Sunday or is it still developing?
  • Is this team mentally tough enough to re-establish itself as a contender or is it back to pretender status?
  • There‘s still 12 games left. Lots of football to be played. Can this team recalibrate and get its mojo back?
There are many more questions this team faces. Sometimes a huge beat down loss like the SF game can flip a switch in a good way. Or itcan also be so psychologically damaging that it takes time to get over it.

Monday night’s game against the chargers will give us another indicator of this team’s toughness. All great teams overcome adversity. Is this team capable of overcoming adversity? Stay tuned.
This team is as soft as a roll of Charmin.
I am not expecting much.
So tired of this rince and repeat.
 

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This team is as soft as a roll of Charmin.
I am not expecting much.
So tired of this rince and repeat.
Well at least they have 12 games to get better or get worse. It needs to be one or the other. I hate watching mediocrity. I would rather be 5-12 than 8-9 or 9-8.

If the Cowboys find a collective spine and right the ship to a 12-5 season, ok. But if they fall into some mediocre win one lose one spin cycle I would rather see them play Trey Lance and take our lumps if nothing else to see if he has anything (I doubt it but why is he here if we don’t find out what he is?) and if this team has some youngsters with some guts.
 

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Getting curb stomped 42-10 by one of your biggest rivals for the third straight time is a kick in the groin for our Cowboys. It has both a physical and psychological toll. This is a team whose entire identity is built on being competitive with any and all NFL teams with a strong defense and a revamped offense - now it has to question itself at this point.

Going into this weekend’s big bounce-back opportunity game with the chargers will test the mental and physical toughness of a team that if we’re honest with ourselves as fans, has been too soft in their biggest moments. The psychological make up of this team is about to be severely challenged.

Questions this team must answer to get up off the canvas:
  • Was the SF game just a one week bad blip on the radar or is it a true measure of this team?
  • Is the defense as dominant as they all thought they were or are they just an occasional tiger when they have a big lead?
  • Is the “Texas Coast” offense as bad as it looked Sunday or is it still developing?
  • Is this team mentally tough enough to re-establish itself as a contender or is it back to pretender status?
  • There‘s still 12 games left. Lots of football to be played. Can this team recalibrate and get its mojo back?
There are many more questions this team faces. Sometimes a huge beat down loss like the SF game can flip a switch in a good way. Or itcan also be so psychologically damaging that it takes time to get over it.

Monday night’s game against the chargers will give us another indicator of this team’s toughness. All great teams overcome adversity. Is this team capable of overcoming adversity? Stay tuned.
Great post Bob................I agree, this game with the Chargers will answer a lot of questions about this team.

Personally, I think the problem is not that they lost to the 49ers, but the way they lost to the 49ers just getting totally dismantled, especially after Jerry basically said its a measuring stick game.

Cant come back from that, I think the Chargers are going to win.
 

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Include the Cardinals game and there may be two stompings weighing on the team's memory of the first five weeks of this season.
They're not the same type of losses you have an excuse for the Arizona game missing 4 Pro Bowl players three players on the offensive line it excuses in a way the offense for not being able to do much not the defense the defense did get stomped but that game they were also missing Trayvon diggs.. I don't think they expected what they saw there so that is not the same type of big loss they were in it until that last no call call on Gallup I don't even know what it was called and then the interception because it was forced because nobody was open.. So physically yes they got beat but it was nowhere near the access kicking that they just saw against the 49ers... I see what you were trying to do there but really I don't think you're on the same wavelength when we're talking about getting your soul stolen when you thought you were gonna have a game against the team you're about to prove yourself against and you get beat that badly in all phases and coaching it will weigh on you the Arizona game I think they just saw the missing a bunch of players having the penalties all go against them there were some good reasons why we lost that game but we lost the game it wasn't a giant gap a few things here and there we would have won that game especially with the penalty late that should have been not picked up against gallop put the ball at the one you never know what's gonna happen after that but the 49er game we were at that game in the first 10 minutes that's it it was over...
 

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Great post Bob................I agree, this game with the Chargers will answer a lot of questions about this team.

Personally, I think the problem is not that they lost to the 49ers, but the way they lost to the 49ers just getting totally dismantled, especially after Jerry basically said its a measuring stick game.

Cant come back from that, I think the Chargers are going to win.
CANT lmao.ok cant sure cement your opinion into a corner you cant come out of if and when they win.. It's been a long time since they lost back-to-back games and most of the time after they get beat badly they bounce back that's been the identity since Mike McCarthy's been here..... I love when people use words like can't and never never leave themselves any room to be wrong...
 

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..if we lose this game, before going into bye. I don't feel this team recovers. Especially with all the issues present.
I don't agree it's never over we've seen teams start real slow the last few years including our own at three and five and 2018 and turned it around it's not over till you're mathematically eliminated in this league anything can happen we can start at three and three and easily recover it happens all the time I think people keep putting too much weight on each game meaning something for the rest of the year they typically don't carry over have you watched this team how could you be 12 and five and back-to-back years and have any carryover from losses it's not happened not in a very long time with a healthy team we're generally healthy right now I mean we lost some good players but I just hate when fans do that they act like San Francisco beat us so bad they stole our soul that would never be able to recover from sometimes this is what you do need but in a 17 game season things have changed... The fat lady is far from singing even if we're three and three again we started three and five in 2018 Prescott was our quarterback back then and we made a run that's how it works you could do that at anytime we've seen got like Eli Manning and the giants do it we've seen what last year weren't these same 49ers like three and three or something like that I remember the Cincinnati Bengals went to the Super bowl that year they were started out really slow and last year didn't they start out like three and three and made the playoffs I mean you guys act like you don't watch other games and other teams you act like somehow this is all gonna carry over and I just don't believe that every game is a one off just like every year is a one off and nothing that's happened the last 27 years has anything to do with the players on this team or the coaches on this team...
 

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Getting curb stomped 42-10 by one of your biggest rivals for the third straight time is a kick in the groin for our Cowboys. It has both a physical and psychological toll. This is a team whose entire identity is built on being competitive with any and all NFL teams with a strong defense and a revamped offense - now it has to question itself at this point.

Going into this weekend’s big bounce-back opportunity game with the chargers will test the mental and physical toughness of a team that if we’re honest with ourselves as fans, has been too soft in their biggest moments. The psychological make up of this team is about to be severely challenged.

Questions this team must answer to get up off the canvas:
  • Was the SF game just a one week bad blip on the radar or is it a true measure of this team?
  • Is the defense as dominant as they all thought they were or are they just an occasional tiger when they have a big lead?
  • Is the “Texas Coast” offense as bad as it looked Sunday or is it still developing?
  • Is this team mentally tough enough to re-establish itself as a contender or is it back to pretender status?
  • There‘s still 12 games left. Lots of football to be played. Can this team recalibrate and get its mojo back?
There are many more questions this team faces. Sometimes a huge beat down loss like the SF game can flip a switch in a good way. Or itcan also be so psychologically damaging that it takes time to get over it.

Monday night’s game against the chargers will give us another indicator of this team’s toughness. All great teams overcome adversity. Is this team capable of overcoming adversity? Stay tuned.
I can tell you one thing and I know it's crazy but I wish they would have had to turn around and play on Thursday I I wanted this to be over with as much as I bet they do and waiting till Monday night has to be the worst part for them and fans to wait that long and have to be on a weekday night stay up late and see how this is gonna all turn out.. I mean at worst I was hoping this could have been a noon game on Sunday to get this taste out of our mouth but this is gonna linger and I'm sure it is with them too and now they have extra day of practice and they can like you know seek therapy...

LOL :facepalm::huh:o_O
 

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The last time this cast of characters overcame anything was never

This is who they are as long as jerry, Mccarthy and Dak are Incharge
 

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The Chargers are not the 49ers so I expect Dallas to play better on both sides of the ball. But at the same time, a couple of teams have exposed weaknesses in Dallas's defense. If the Cowboys do not get a pass rush and force turnovers the defense is not going to stop a good offense.

The 49ers were way more physical than Dallas. Their OL abused the Cowboys DL. I would say it was an aberration if the Cardinals had not done similar things to them two week prior. The difference is the Cowboys moved the football against the Cardinals and failed in the red zone, but the defense struggled to stop the Cardinals and in the end, the busted coverage cost them a chance to win the game.

I am seeing too many busted coverages lately and it reminds me of the defense the year before Quinn came to Dallas.
 

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The Chargers game is only important from the aspect of the usual expectations for this team - to maybe make the playoffs, but absolutely NOT get beyond the DIV round.

The season is going to turn out like we all know it will. The only real question is if they make the playoffs or not.
 

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CANT lmao.ok cant sure cement your opinion into a corner you cant come out of if and when they win.. It's been a long time since they lost back-to-back games and most of the time after they get beat badly they bounce back that's been the identity since Mike McCarthy's been here..... I love when people use words like can't and never never leave themselves any room to be wrong...
15 of the last 16 opponents who lost to the 49ers ended up losing the following week as well.

The 49ers dont just beat you, they take your will to compete and almost nobody is able to rebound in just one week as the stat above shows.

I cant see the Cowboys bucking this trend, but that is simply my opinion..........................We shall see Monday night if I am wrong or not.
 

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LMAO, you guys didn't really think the season was going to end with an SB? This is how it will always end, but you guys will be back getting excited about the draft and preseason. LOL.
 

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Unfortunately Bob, the root cause which has been building for 27 years, is that the team is soft. From the owner down to the last player. Jerry treats them all like super stars. Until they correct that, they’re going to wilt against good teams. They have more than enough talent but have been castrated by Jerry. I’m rooting for them regardless. Maybe the play will take it upon themselves to grow a pair. One can only hope.

IMHO I believe the talent on this team is overrated. Especially on offense.
 

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History is full of teams that struggled through the first half of the season before coming together to finish strong and put together a run.

Maybe, just maybe this turns out to be a 2007 NY Giants scenario.

Yea.... I don't see it either but, just maybe.
 

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15 of the last 16 opponents who lost to the 49ers ended up losing the following week as well.

The 49ers dont just beat you, they take your will to compete and almost nobody is able to rebound in just one week as the stat above shows.

I cant see the Cowboys bucking this trend, but that is simply my opinion..........................We shall see Monday night if I am wrong or not.
and i say its nonsense. It's nice as the 49ers run has been literally no Super Bowl wins wins you know that word wins it really matters that's the Buffalo Bills ask the Cincinnati Bengals how it feels to get there and not win the 49ers haven't won a Super Bowl longer than us who cares if they've made it there this physical team this giant like reputation that they have it's not paid off where are the rings they are stuck in the same pattern we are except for you guys go but at least they made it there no the goal is winning championships not almost winning championships you know the old saying if you're not first your last if they still failed over and over to get their goal resolved as much as anybody else..

All this talk like they're the giants of the NFL they beat you so bad you're gonna lose their next week and yet they're the ones going home early every year...

Don't bring that trash ridiculous stuff in here because right now we're all mad at the 49ers and I don't want to hear anybody talking like as if there's some kind of kings of the NFL when they are not like I said last year didn't they start out four and four or was it something close to that like it took them a while to get on pace well might be for us too

they eventually did and we can eventually do it also and it starts Monday night.. But this whole thing with the stats anybody can find anything they're looking for nowadays and I say go back and look at the teams that team played the next week was it on the road was it outside was there bad weather were they missing some players... I mean there's context we can bring into that that says otherwise...

But by the way the Cowboys haven't lost back-to-back games in a very long time and typically their trend is if they get beat real bad they usually win the next week that's been Prescott's era of teams they rarely lose back-to-back games when they've got embarrassed the week before... So now we get to see the return of Kellen Moore we get to see versus Mike McCarthy new offense on the road which is also part of the issue here with this trend with the 49ers we're going on the road on grass outdoors so that's gonna aid in that little trend because it's not like we get to play at home like we did when we beat the **** out of the New England Patriots a couple weeks ago after losing a game that was embarrassing in Arizona..

Rant over I'm a Cowboys fan I'm not sitting here thinking they're gonna lose Monday night
 

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15 of the last 16 opponents who lost to the 49ers ended up losing the following week as well.

The 49ers dont just beat you, they take your will to compete and almost nobody is able to rebound in just one week as the stat above shows.

I cant see the Cowboys bucking this trend, but that is simply my opinion..........................We shall see Monday night if I am wrong or not.
I saw this stat but this could be one of those example where stats don't tell the story. Yet, I cannot argue the Cowboys did not look fully demoralized and beaten mentally as well as physically.

I never liked the Cowboys slogan this year of carpe omnia or whatever it was. No one can have everything. The quest for perfection always fails. 5 games in and Dallas has lost 2 games badly. How do they achieve carpe omnia now? They goal for the season has already failed.

I have no issue with setting a team goal but carpe diem is a great slogan because every day is a new quest, and a battle that can be won.

Everything I an hearing and seeing from this team looks like they are lost in the last game and that is a very bad sign for Monday night. Who are the team leaders to bring them out of this depression?
 

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I feel like a few of the niners punched me in the head on their way out of the stadium. My fandom psyche isn’t good right now.
 
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