I don't recall the plays all that well but if there was a receiver in the area then it would not be flagged, and they're generally pretty generous about what would constitute "in the area."
Thanks for the breakdown.If the QB moves outside of either Tackle, he can throw it away with no receiver in the area,
but the ball must cross the line of scrimmage.
If the QB stays between the Tackles, there must be in receiver in the area, but the ball
is not required to cross the line. (Ex: middle screen to the RB thrown at his feet)
There was at least one play where Minshew threw it away while outside the
pocket, no receiver, and barely made it past the line of scrimmage. It was close.
"Pocket lines" are set by each Tackle pre-snap.
The rule is intentionally complex and confusing, so they can call it or not call it whenever they want lol
This ^^^^If the QB moves outside of either Tackle, he can throw it away with no receiver in the area,
but the ball must cross the line of scrimmage.
If the QB stays between the Tackles, there must be in receiver in the area, but the ball
is not required to cross the line. (Ex: middle screen to the RB thrown at his feet)
There was at least one play where Minshew threw it away while outside the
pocket, no receiver, and barely made it past the line of scrimmage. It was close.
"Pocket lines" are set by each Tackle pre-snap.
When it confuses the announcers who have 20 years in the booth, or they say they dont know if it is or isnt lol then you knowNFL just *loves* fuzzy rules and mass confusion about those rules.
Think people, why might that be!?
When it confuses the announcers who have 20 years in the booth, or they say they dont know if it is or isnt lol then you know
it is not by accident that the rules are like they are.
one recently is clock stops when they go out of bounds, unless they are going backwards towards los lol.
I mean who made that rule and why??
Thanks. Maybe there were receivers nearby then.
If in the pocket it has to cross the line of scrimmage or be close to an eligible receiver
Yep, this is it right here. That's the correct answer.If the QB moves outside of either Tackle, he can throw it away with no receiver in the area,
but the ball must cross the line of scrimmage.
If the QB stays between the Tackles, there must be in receiver in the area, but the ball
is not required to cross the line. (Ex: middle screen to the RB thrown at his feet)
There was at least one play where Minshew threw it away while outside the
pocket, no receiver, and barely made it past the line of scrimmage. It was close.
"Pocket lines" are set by each Tackle pre-snap.
It's intentional grounding if the quarterback throws the ball, and there's no receiver in the area, while being in the pocket.I don't remember the exact plays, but supposedly you can throw the ball away if not under pressure. Grey area.
The entire NFL rule book is like this. The rules are vague and they provide vague examples. There's a lot of wiggle room for most rules, and I think it has to be by design if you read the rule book.The rule is intentionally complex and confusing, so they can call it or not call it whenever they want lol
tackle box is the pocket so know its sideline so side to side determines pocket ie tackle to tackle that originally set when the balls snapped.Yesterday near the end of the first half, Minshew dropped back on consecutive plays and threw the ball away. They were the right decisions under the circumstances, but I thought you had to be out of the pocket to throw the ball away. Does dropping back a few steps take you out of the pocket? Or was that a special situation where you can just throw the ball away? I remember the 2007 playoff game against NYG where Romo was called for intentional grounding late in the game when he did the same thing. Someone please explain the QB pocket and when is grounding supposed to be called. Thanks in advance.
The rules have changed since 2007. They are trying to protect the QB more and more.Well, he threw it out of bounds each time, not to or near any receiver I could see. Each pass definitely passed the line of scrimmage, though. Does anyone remember the 2007 playoff game where Romo was flagged? I swear it was the same situation, but it was a long time ago so maybe my memory is off.
Thanks for addressing 2007. I thought maybe it had changed since then. I wasn't implying that Minshew did anything wrong. I just needed clarification on the rule.The rules have changed since 2007. They are trying to protect the QB more and more.
It was stricter back then