The Ramsey Conundrum

FuzzyLumpkins

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And when he was, he still made only 3 int's in 41 games.

Still no denominator for all your handwaving at the one stat. I did see him reach out and grab a fumbled ball with one hand and run it into the endzone. His hands were fine on that play.

What his QB rating against was would actually be an attempt to be comprehensive.
 

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Still no denominator for all your handwaving at the one stat. I did see him reach out and grab a fumbled ball with one hand and run it into the endzone. His hands were fine on that play.

What his QB rating against was would actually be an attempt to be comprehensive.

So you'll be fine when in the pros after 41 games, he has 3 int's.
 

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So you'll be fine when in the pros after 41 games, he has 3 int's.

If he did for us what he did for FSU, yes please. He is a game changer and it's obvious.

Two of his blitzes led to picks. We should just ignore that as well as the FR for a TD or all those incompletions and coverage sacks?

Why? Who is your pet cat?
 

casmith07

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You rank what is there. He's a better prospect than Milliner, Claiborne, Gilbert, Waynes, or anyone else since Peterson.

Sounds like you are looking for generational surefire talent like Clowney and some others. There are rarely more than 1 of those in any draft.

Agree. I wouldn't mind the pick at all. Especially getting blue chip talent on defense to keep it young, and to pair another top tier athlete with Byron.
 

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I think he has a shot to be one of the better FS's in th league honestly. Not that he can't play CB, because he definitely can, but I just don't think he will be as great there. But if he does play CB full time I would think he needs to be playing press the majority of the time though, which he wouldn't here.

I like him a good bit better than Bosa though, and he's right about even with Jack. But it would still be dumb to pass on Goff or Wentz tho...

Stay out of my brain please...:)
 

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I don't know enough to fairly evaluate QB's. The telecasts are too limited and there are too many questions about playcall on both sides to really make what I would consider an informed opinion.

I respect that more than most people on here who are so certain for 1 or the other. And why I've pretty much succumbed to either or of Wentz and Goff. There is way more to playing the QB position than what fans can see/hear. Unless you're spending hours with these kids and researching into calling anybody that has ever coached them you're never going to know. We've all seen extremely talented QB's fail.
 

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I'd be ok if he was the pick. Just hope dallas doesnt give up a 2nd or a 3rd also. They need a good draft now and next offseason and dallas can possibly compete for the 17-18 season.
 

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Round 1 im cool with Ramsey. Also Wentz, Jack, or Elliot. Everybody else including Goff can be ignored. Thats the (fantastic four) to me.
 

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Yep..

I'll trade down and take Lawson, Spence, or Elliot + picks instead of Bosa.

Bosa had more sacks as a sophmore than Watt did over his two seasons at Wisconsin. I'm not saying Bosa is Watt - he's not. But he can certainly rush the QB.
 

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The only thing I like about Ramsey right now is his tremendous upside.

I don't think he does anything at a high level right now other than run. His hips are stiff when he turns and he can be indecisive. When he see the play, he attacks relentlessly, but he doesn't get his head turned around when he's in man, which is why he doesn't have more turnovers and that's something I am tired of seeing. He is a good tackler who isn't afraid to be physical, but he will make business decisions that will make you throw your visor down.

He looks like a SS to me who would absolutely thrive in a cover three where he can stay near the LOS and keep eyes on the QB. If they take him as a corner, he needs a lot of work, but he has versatility in that he's not any better at zone than he is man. His best fit may be off man, which is also the coverage that makes everyone around here groan.

I think his potential to be an impact player is very high, maybe the highest of any defender. If I am looking for a stud corner though, I make a move for Hargreaves.
 

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His 2014 game vs Miami is insane. He looks like a bigger faster Mathieu. My favorite prospect in the draft, as a nickel/safety hybrid.
 
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