The real reason this defense sucks

[Dallyjake]

I have trouble understanding why they picked Taco over TJ Watt. I was at the draft and remember screaming out loud when that pick was announced. TJ is one of the best in the business. A game changer!

 

[kskboys]

Meh Troys an outsider a media guy dont know what actually goes on in the draft room...until you have tangible proof from an ex coach thats in that room that jerry overturned draft picks other wanted and demanded someone else , its all rumor and rhetoric sorry to burst your bubble Garett hasn't mentioned this nor has Marinelli they left no longer Dc yet still not one shed of proof, same as the narratives about Garett's meddling with KM, after watching this year KM is his own person as hes always been.. not one shred of proof from real insiders REAL on the spot in the room insiders..

GOT UIRT

keep blaming Jerry instead of players and coach's..its too easy huh? lmao sure the GM will and should get blame for bad drafts and players acquisition that doesnt work out but the rumor mill hes up there trumping all selections and going rouge is plain stupid!

remember Jimmy went to MIA and didn't win squat also quit quickly.. none of the narratives around her are nothing more then opinion and rhetoric

you all know nothing as Troy and Clerance are ALL MEDIA they know what jerry and the Fo want them to know..all else is puff pieces to get ratings..talking cowboys are ratings!

IMHO Will McClay is the GM even though he dosnt have the title and the draft room is no different than any other they discus confer vote and choose.. the coaches get input and i guarantee most of those old defensive players were Marinelli and Richard pushing for them..why wouldnt coaches be allowed to offer opinions ask for certain players? it would be to easy to believe that huh?

I truly believ we have missed out on Watt and Jack because of marinelli and some of thsoe Dbs on Richard tryig to turn this backfield into LOB and swung and missed..this defense is total reboot if fans cant see it was struggle for Nolan and staff to70% new players and after major losses in injury etc and it wasn't going to take time and struggle, the expectations were wrong..

So, you're saying we shouldn't blame the guy responsible? And just how does that make sense?

 

[ondaedg]

I think we’re stuck with Jaylon through 2021, and even then we will have some dead money if we cut him. Firing Nolan at this point is a reaction. I understand why we would all exact some frustration but 4 games into a season, I’m not too hopeful we can change DCs and expect a lot to change.

True but hard to believe it can get any worst.

 

[blueblood70]

So, you're saying we shouldn't blame the guy responsible? And just how does that make sense?

shouldnt make statements of fact when they arent facts...emotional outburst making wholesale narratives that are almost all not fact is simply that..VENT all you want but stating things that are opinion without tangible proof well that your issue as fan...

 

[kskboys]

shouldnt make statements of fact when they arent facts...emotional outburst making wholesale narratives that are almost all not fact is simply that..VENT all you want but stating things that are opinion without tangible proof well that your issue as fan...

Your post makes no sense whatsoever. I'm not venting, I'm stating a fact.

The GM is in charge of the team. Is that a tough fact for you to comprehend?

 

[Bobhaze]

Meh Troys an outsider a media guy dont know what actually goes on in the draft room...until you have tangible proof from an ex coach thats in that room that jerry overturned draft picks other wanted and demanded someone else , its all rumor and rhetoric sorry to burst your bubble Garett hasn't mentioned this nor has Marinelli they left no longer Dc yet still not one shed of proof, same as the narratives about Garett's meddling with KM, after watching this year KM is his own person as hes always been.. not one shred of proof from real insiders REAL on the spot in the room insiders..

GOT UIRT

keep blaming Jerry instead of players and coach's..its too easy huh? lmao sure the GM will and should get blame for bad drafts and players acquisition that doesnt work out but the rumor mill hes up there trumping all selections and going rouge is plain stupid!

remember Jimmy went to MIA and didn't win squat also quit quickly.. none of the narratives around her are nothing more then opinion and rhetoric

you all know nothing as Troy and Clerance are ALL MEDIA they know what jerry and the Fo want them to know..all else is puff pieces to get ratings..talking cowboys are ratings!

IMHO Will McClay is the GM even though he dosnt have the title and the draft room is no different than any other they discus confer vote and choose.. the coaches get input and i guarantee most of those old defensive players were Marinelli and Richard pushing for them..why wouldnt coaches be allowed to offer opinions ask for certain players? it would be to easy to believe that huh?

I truly believ we have missed out on Watt and Jack because of marinelli and some of thsoe Dbs on Richard tryig to turn this backfield into LOB and swung and missed..this defense is total reboot if fans cant see it was struggle for Nolan and staff to70% new players and after major losses in injury etc and it wasn't going to take time and struggle, the expectations were wrong..

Blue, I have no problem with your opinions. But you offered your opinion about Jerry not “being in charge” with no evidence other than your opinion. You asked me to “get back to you with proof” without “emotional feeling”. I provided two sourced quotes. That’s not emotional.

You don’t have to agree with Troy Aikman, but I find it hard to believe that you think he doesn’t know what he’s talking about compared to your opinion. Using your same prompt to me, why don’t you provide some proof Jerry’s no longer in charge. I’m open to learning something new. If you have some facts that can enlighten the discussion, I’m listening.

 

[blueblood70]

Blue, I have no problem with your opinions. But you offered your opinion about Jerry not “being in charge” with no evidence other than your opinion. You asked me to “get back to you with proof” without “emotional feeling”. I provided two sourced quotes. That’s not emotional.

You don’t have to agree with Troy Aikman, but I find it hard to believe that you think he doesn’t know what he’s talking about compared to your opinion. Using your prompt to me, why don’t you provide some proof Jerry’s no longer in charge. I’m open to learning something new. If you have some facts that can enlighten the discussion, I’m listening.

quotes from media have no teeth, sorry thats THEIR Opinion if you cant tell the difference, im sorry.. we will have differing opinions..

let me Hear Garett and Marinelli come on TV and state exactly that during the last 5 years, jerry trumped any draft picks, forced them to make choice they didnt want to, meddled in game plans, and the worst narrative on here that Jerry actually tells coaches who to play during a game..thats ridiculous..

if it comes from RECENT coaches in real interview and CLEAR statements on such, well its all opinion. We arent going back 25years post Jimmy some of the campo years, we are talking the last 10 but really 5 years where most can see McClay the GM now and Stephen has more input and the Dc allow coaches to offer suggestions in the draft..

 

[Hennessy_King]

Charlton was a bust in Dallas yet has found a role in KC. It's not just the drafting, it's hiring coaches who make Jerry feel "comfortable".

The best Cowboys teams ever under Jerry happened when he was uncomfortable.

Taco had a strip sack last night.

 

[Hennessy_King]

quotes from media have no teeth, sorry thats THEIR Opinion if you cant tell the difference, im sorry.. we will have differing opinions..

let me Hear Garett and Marinelli come on TV and state exactly that during the last 5 years, jerry trumped any draft picks, forced them to make choice they didnt want to, meddled in game plans, and the worst narrative on here that Jerry actually tells coaches who to play during a game..thats ridiculous..

if it comes from RECENT coaches in real interview and CLEAR statements on such, well its all opinion. We arent going back 25years post Jimmy some of the campo years, we are talking the last 10 but really 5 years where most can see McClay the GM now and Stephen has more input and the Dc allow coaches to offer suggestions in the draft..

We literally saw on all or nothing that the coaches meeting doesn't start until jerry is on the call. Jerry is a disgrace

 

[Bobhaze]

quotes from media have no teeth, sorry thats THEIR Opinion if you cant tell the difference, im sorry.. we will have differing opinions..

let me Hear Garett and Marinelli come on TV and state exactly that during the last 5 years, jerry trumped any draft picks, forced them to make choice they didnt want to, meddled in game plans, and the worst narrative on here that Jerry actually tells coaches who to play during a game..thats ridiculous..

if it comes from RECENT coaches in real interview and CLEAR statements on such, well its all opinion. We arent going back 25years post Jimmy some of the campo years, we are talking the last 10 but really 5 years where most can see McClay the GM now and Stephen has more input and the Dc allow coaches to offer suggestions in the draft..

So I can assume then you agree that your opinion that “Jerry’s not in charge” is not a fact, but just your opinion. That’s fine. It’s your opinion. If you have facts to support your opinion, again, I’m open to view them. At this point all you have presented is your opinion. There’s a difference. I’m only asking you what you asked me for - proof.

 

[CowboysExchange]

All the 3 and outs and turnovers is not helping. But LVE and Lee being out is a big part of the problem . Jaylon is better when the Leaders are out there.

Plus it wouldn't hurt to have a decent Safety.

 

[Proof]

And the Pats, 49ers, and Chiefs keep nabbing D players early and often. Hmmmmmmmmm

chiefs last two first rounders were wr and rb. the 9ers have had one good season after 4 straight w/ 6 or less wins. We've drafted a bunch of defensive players, just haven't been very good at it.

 

[blueblood70]

So I can assume then you agree that your opinion that “Jerry’s not in charge” is not a fact, but just your opinion. That’s fine. It’s your opinion. If you have facts to support your opinion, again, I’m open to view them. At this point all you have presented is your opinion. There’s a difference. I’m only asking you what you asked me for - proof.

media comments are not proof, its their opinion jeez you are having your opinion backing up their opinion is a second hand opinion.. lmao..its all opinion with ZERO FACT..

 

[Bobhaze]

We literally saw on all or nothing that the coaches meeting doesn't start until jerry is on the call. Jerry is a disgrace

That’s a fact. I saw it too.

 

[GMO415]

The real reason....we have "let the other guy do the hard work" mentality players.

Bunch of lazy players who buy into this culture upon assimilation.

 

[OmerV]

This defense sucks because this front office can’t draft good defenders or when they do they don’t keep them.

And while everyone bashes all the players who have been underperforming on the field, you need to remember who is RESPONSIBLE for the accumulation of talent for this team, and who has signed off on some bad decisions: Jerry and his front office.

I still believe Will McClay is a top eye for talent but don’t ever kid yourself into thinking he’s drafting these players. McClay racks the pool table and hands the cue to Jerry. And the drafts have been good at times, but drafting good players is only 1/3 of the equation. They have to be developed, coached, and then molded into a team that knows how to play together to win.

So where has this FO failed? They apparently don’t know how to draft defensive players. It’s now obvious. Let us count the ways- All these guys were in the Top 100 picks in the year drafted.

• Drafting defensive players with premium picks since 2015 has not been good:
  • 2015- 1st round- Byron Jones- CB- good player but let go in FA.
  • 2015- 2nd round- Randy Gregory- DE- Been a complete waste of a premium draft spot
  • 2016- 2nd round Jaylon Smith- LB- has been an overpaid- average at best LB
  • 2016- 3rd round Malik Collins- DT- a solid not spectacular player, let go in FA
  • 2017- 1st round- Taco Charlton- DE- a complete bust
  • 2017- 2nd round- Chidobe Awuzie- CB- been avg at best. Hurt at the moment.
  • 2017- 3rd round- Jourdan Lewis- CB- All I can say is meh.
  • 2018- 1st round- LVE- LB- Injuries have made him irrelevant
  • 2019- (gave up a 1st pick for Amari Cooper)
  • 2019- 2nd round- Trysten Hill- DT- Avoiding the bust label by a thread

That’s a ton of premium draft capital not working out! So when you wonder why this defense can’t tackle, cover or pressure, here you go.

Great post. This really illustrates the problem.

 

[Bobhaze]

media comments are not proof, its their opinion jeez you are having your opinion backing up their opinion is a second hand opinion.. lmao..its all opinion with ZERO FACT..

All I’m saying brother is where’s your proof that’s he’s not in charge? Haven’t seen that from you. There’s a lot of evidence of Jerry still being the top dog here. No hard feelings, but I’m not going to argue with you anymore.

 

[OmerV]

I have trouble understanding why they picked Taco over TJ Watt. I was at the draft and remember screaming out loud when that pick was announced. TJ is one of the best in the business. A game changer!

Why did all teams pass on Watt until the 30th pick? Clearly NFL teams (not just Dallas) made a mistake. Watt's college stats were really not much better than Taco''s though, and Taco was a better scheme fit, so there was some justification. But the Cowboys sure screwed up the talent evaluation, as did a lot of other teams.

 

[kskboys]

chiefs last two first rounders were wr and rb. the 9ers have had one good season after 4 straight w/ 6 or less wins. We've drafted a bunch of defensive players, just haven't been very good at it.

Why are you focusing on only 1st rounders?

Chiefs pick DL's often, early and late. Chris Jones was a 2nd, Nnadi was a 3rd. Just took Khalen Sauders in the 3rd in 19, and signed run stuffer Mike Pennel in 19. In the scout's words: "Run first defender who stabilized Chiefs interior line in 2nd half last year."

We've drafted a bunch of injured players, stiffs, and projects. To say we're not good at it is like saying Jack the Ripper wasn't too bad.

 

[kskboys]

media comments are not proof, its their opinion jeez you are having your opinion backing up their opinion is a second hand opinion.. lmao..its all opinion with ZERO FACT..

Here's a 100% fact. You're getting owned in this convo and coming off as a Gump.